2023 Shutdown Thread
Feb 10, 2023, 6:52 pm
#16
Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 9
Chase mostly bans people for abnormal spending because it is viewed as a credit abuse risk, not necessarily because you are farming points.
Mar 4, 2023, 2:14 pm
#17
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Dallas, Texas
Programs: AA ExPlat. Marriott Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 78
DP...... I was shut down by chase back around late 2019 for what I am guessing to be MS. I have to phrase it this was because, I was, and they never gave me a reason. My MS was around 10K/month. They allowed my business card to stay open and I have not applied to all the offers I had been sent over the years for new cards. Decided to give it a try and apply for a Hyatt card and was approved. I would say this is about 3.5 years in Chase jail for me
Mar 4, 2023, 3:22 pm
#18
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,516
DP...... I was shut down by chase back around late 2019 for what I am guessing to be MS. I have to phrase it this was because, I was, and they never gave me a reason. My MS was around 10K/month. They allowed my business card to stay open and I have not applied to all the offers I had been sent over the years for new cards. Decided to give it a try and apply for a Hyatt card and was approved. I would say this is about 3.5 years in Chase jail for me
Mar 5, 2023, 8:23 pm
#19
Join Date: May 2019
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 453
Keep your volume very low with Barclays. I hit the Wyndham card very hard, was never late with a payment, and never paid a cent of interest. Barclays slammed the door on me for life. It's been over six years and they still won't let me back. FICO is 840 and whenever I apply for a Barclay's card, it is denied immediately without even doing a hard pull. I've spoken to them a number of times without avail.
Last edited by Happy Traveling Consultant; Mar 5, 2023 at 9:16 pm
Mar 6, 2023, 7:36 am
#20
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,433
A good customer generating a lot of fees for a card servicer may be allotted greater leeway than someone just doing MOs.
Mar 15, 2023, 8:52 am
#21
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 162
Trying not to get banned...
I have two open chase freedom cards (3.5 decades old), biz united, Ink card, and checking/saving.
6-8 months ago closed sapphire, hyatt and two IHG (had sap 1yr old, others 5 yr old).
Was thinking of opening biz ink cash and/or unlimited but trying not to get banned by chase
how much is too much?
edit:
1) reduced credit limit on existing biz accounts by 15k yesterday in preparation for app today
2) now thinking that 2 biz apps in one day is too much. thinking only one biz card within 90 days to be safe w/ last one being 5 months ago
6-8 months ago closed sapphire, hyatt and two IHG (had sap 1yr old, others 5 yr old).
Was thinking of opening biz ink cash and/or unlimited but trying not to get banned by chase
how much is too much?
edit:
1) reduced credit limit on existing biz accounts by 15k yesterday in preparation for app today
2) now thinking that 2 biz apps in one day is too much. thinking only one biz card within 90 days to be safe w/ last one being 5 months ago
Last edited by flew-d-coop; Mar 15, 2023 at 10:01 am
Mar 30, 2023, 11:27 am
#22
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 6,359
I've been on the Chase naughty list since 2012. Every few years I will apply for 1-2 new Chase cards and about 75% of the time they are approved and they last roughly 2-6 months before getting shutdown again. I meet the minimum spend and get the big signup bonus before they shut my cards down. This round I applied for the 100k Chase Ink Preferred and the 90k Chase Ink Cash. Got the ~210k pts within 2 months, transferred them over to Hyatt, and now have been spending on the Ink Cash at Staples/OD to reach the $25k annual cap before my cards get shutdown. I got a letter last month that my cards will be closed in 60 days "because of your association with a Chase credit card, deposit, or investment acct that was previously closed". No big deal, was expecting this. However I was happily surprised to be given 60 days until shutdown. So I started hitting Staples/OD a bit harder since I got the letter. Anyways, I'm down to my final month until shutdown and have $6k left in spending towards my yearly $25k 5x cap. However I just re-read the letter from Chase and realize they will be closing my acct on the EXACT same day that my Ink Cash statement cuts.
Does anybody know if I'll be spending the final $6k in vain? Or will those 30k UR pts actually post to my acct? I should have paid a bit more attention to the closure dates and simply spent the final $6k last month. But since I didn't, I just wanted to check ppl's experiences in getting UR pts AFTER their Chase acct was closed (for spending BEFORE it was closed). The letter says I have at least 30 days from the date the account is closed to use my UR pts or I will lose them. Thx in advance if you have any personal experience with this!
Does anybody know if I'll be spending the final $6k in vain? Or will those 30k UR pts actually post to my acct? I should have paid a bit more attention to the closure dates and simply spent the final $6k last month. But since I didn't, I just wanted to check ppl's experiences in getting UR pts AFTER their Chase acct was closed (for spending BEFORE it was closed). The letter says I have at least 30 days from the date the account is closed to use my UR pts or I will lose them. Thx in advance if you have any personal experience with this!
Mar 30, 2023, 11:36 am
#23
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,433
I've been on the Chase naughty list since 2012. Every few years I will apply for 1-2 new Chase cards and about 75% of the time they are approved and they last roughly 2-6 months before getting shutdown again. I meet the minimum spend and get the big signup bonus before they shut my cards down. This round I applied for the 100k Chase Ink Preferred and the 90k Chase Ink Cash. Got the ~210k pts within 2 months, transferred them over to Hyatt, and now have been spending on the Ink Cash at Staples/OD to reach the $25k annual cap before my cards get shutdown. I got a letter last month that my cards will be closed in 60 days "because of your association with a Chase credit card, deposit, or investment acct that was previously closed". No big deal, was expecting this. However I was happily surprised to be given 60 days until shutdown. So I started hitting Staples/OD a bit harder since I got the letter. Anyways, I'm down to my final month until shutdown and have $6k left in spending towards my yearly $25k 5x cap. However I just re-read the letter from Chase and realize they will be closing my acct on the EXACT same day that my Ink Cash statement cuts.
Does anybody know if I'll be spending the final $6k in vain? Or will those 30k UR pts actually post to my acct? I should have paid a bit more attention to the closure dates and simply spent the final $6k last month. But since I didn't, I just wanted to check ppl's experiences in getting UR pts AFTER their Chase acct was closed (for spending BEFORE it was closed). The letter says I have at least 30 days from the date the account is closed to use my UR pts or I will lose them. Thx in advance if you have any personal experience with this!
Does anybody know if I'll be spending the final $6k in vain? Or will those 30k UR pts actually post to my acct? I should have paid a bit more attention to the closure dates and simply spent the final $6k last month. But since I didn't, I just wanted to check ppl's experiences in getting UR pts AFTER their Chase acct was closed (for spending BEFORE it was closed). The letter says I have at least 30 days from the date the account is closed to use my UR pts or I will lose them. Thx in advance if you have any personal experience with this!
Think of it like a store. It says that it closes at nine. You arrive at nine and the door is locked. You're not going to get in,
I think you have been very lucky. However, I don't think you will get those last set of points since the account was closed. However, let us know how you fare.
Mar 30, 2023, 8:34 pm
#25
Join Date: May 2019
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 453
LOL. Just saw this. No, in fact the only thing I used it for was SMVGC spend.
Mar 31, 2023, 6:48 am
#26
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,433
If banks see that your monthly spend over all your cards, especially elite cards is in the five to six digit range, then they are far more lenient than if you have only one card getting five digit spends and the others having balances of $100/month.
Finally, businesses do 6 digit spends a year at Simon. My business has been using Simon for literally decades for gift card purchases for legit business reasons. No issues with Simon or our bank's credit card that pays for it..
Mar 31, 2023, 7:34 pm
#27
Join Date: May 2019
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium Elite, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 453
How about all your other travel cards?
If banks see that your monthly spend over all your cards, especially elite cards is in the five to six digit range, then they are far more lenient than if you have only one card getting five digit spends and the others having balances of $100/month.
Finally, businesses do 6 digit spends a year at Simon. My business has been using Simon for literally decades for gift card purchases for legit business reasons. No issues with Simon or our bank's credit card that pays for it..
If banks see that your monthly spend over all your cards, especially elite cards is in the five to six digit range, then they are far more lenient than if you have only one card getting five digit spends and the others having balances of $100/month.
Finally, businesses do 6 digit spends a year at Simon. My business has been using Simon for literally decades for gift card purchases for legit business reasons. No issues with Simon or our bank's credit card that pays for it..
Apr 24, 2023, 5:34 pm
#28
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 6,359
Update: Moved my statement cut date 4 days earlier, then maxed out my $25k/year Ink Cash spend at Staples. Points all posted just fine on my new statement cut date, I transferred them all to Hyatt the next day, and shut my Chase Inks immediately (the day before Chase was scheduled to shut them on me). And I had my credit maxed out on this card and the card has a 0% intro promo fee for 12 months, so I will be sure to pay the minimum payment every month for the next 7 months. Thx Chase!!! Til next time.............
May 25, 2023, 11:19 am
#29
Join Date: Jun 2014
Programs: UA Premier 1K, *A Gold
Posts: 160
My Wells Fargo deposit accounts were closed because I was logging in "from too many foreign IPs". Wells Fargo Fraud Prevention Contact Center seemed pretty incompetent and said all my accounts (including credit cards) would be closed, but that looks like it's not the case since I can still spend on my card. Lost online account access though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
May 25, 2023, 2:40 pm
#30
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,433
My Wells Fargo deposit accounts were closed because I was logging in "from too many foreign IPs". Wells Fargo Fraud Prevention Contact Center seemed pretty incompetent and said all my accounts (including credit cards) would be closed, but that looks like it's not the case since I can still spend on my card. Lost online account access though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It may be that just logging in got the rats interested in your account and that put human eyes on it..
Since you no longer have on-line account access, I suspect that any points in your account have been lost. I would try mightily to move them if possible in some other way (go to an office, phone line) before the credit cards become useless.