Old Oct 20, 2020, 12:44 pm
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I will work on this on the next few days but most of the info is very old and outdated.


I have been using all of these the last 2 years and I will update what other people have started along with some tools on how to buy on multiple accounts if people want this info. This is just a quick first draft. I will clean up and add more details.

please dont .... up the work I will put into this. please message me and I can add more data and I have more buying groups that I can add
  1. Pointsmaker - pointsmaker.com - Notifies via email . You buy and upload tracking number - Payment comes pretty quick same day most often via echeck once item is checked in
  2. MYS Buying Group - mysbuyinggroup.com Notifies via email . You buy and upload tracking number - Payment comes pretty quick once item is checked in echeck
    MYS has the most complaints of all, from very late payment to not receiving items. Many people have given up on MYS.
  3. USA Buying Group - usabuying.group same as others regarding loading the tracking number. slowest payment of all. alerts come via whatsapp and email and response time is medium to issues
  4. YRCW - app.yrcwtech.com same as others alertss comes via whatsapp - payments can be slow. response time to issues are pretty quick via communication thru wahtsapp to owner
  5. Buy For Me Retail - The best. buyformeretail.com deals are posted on page. offers sent thru email. payment sent ach when they are checked i
  6. EMB - embdeals.com same as above - a great one as well. alerts via whatsapp. payments can be requested same day and will arrive same day. lots of offers last amazon prime.
  7. EMB - From late 2021 through August 2022, Several reports of missing packages, more complaints than most of the other groups. Buyers Beware.
  8. TheDealBuyer - thedealbuyer.com - Seems to be very new to the game. Not using whatsapp, but Pushover to send deals.
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Old Jan 15, 2021, 1:18 pm
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USA buying group has become a total scam. DO NOT BUY FOR THEM. You will not get paid.

I've spent over $200k with them over the years and things have gone relatively smoothly. They are terribly slow in paying out checks but I haven't had missing packages. Suddenly they stopped scanning my packages since the new year. It took them forever to respond to tickets and when they do they gave lame excuses like "We've been doing inventory and will start scanning in a day or two". And guess what, a day or two passed and still nada. I have over $1k packages delivered and not scanned and at this point I'm not holding my hopes up. They'll ask you for proof of delivery and purchase in the ticket, and ask you how many of the same items you bought for them, and they then tell you they didn't receive the package -- and that's when they do respond to me. Now they just ignore me. I still have packages delivered on 12/02/2020 that is not scanned.

Swiping your card for some total stranger is always a risk. Let this be a lesson for anyone reading this thread. DO NOT BUY FOR USA BUYING GROUP. They will not pay you back. You have been warned.
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 9:16 pm
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A question I'm wondering about (since I've started dabbling in reselling things locally myself with PS5s and XBox's) - what do these buyers clubs do with the merchandise (aside from ultra hot items like the next gen consoles that sell for hundreds above retail)? What are the doing with dozens or hundreds of iPads bought at a regularly available Amazon retail price?
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by bodiddely
A question I'm wondering about (since I've started dabbling in reselling things locally myself with PS5s and XBox's) - what do these buyers clubs do with the merchandise (aside from ultra hot items like the next gen consoles that sell for hundreds above retail)? What are the doing with dozens or hundreds of iPads bought at a regularly available Amazon retail price?
Short answer is re sell them for profit. Trying to answer that most logical is selling the items overseas. Many items cost significantly more in other countries compared to USA. Im sure they are making a good deal of profit doing that especially with apple products. They could also have their own local retail store, think NYC for hard to get items or NYC selling to tourists.
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Old Jan 20, 2021, 9:39 pm
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Smuggle overseas and flip
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Old Jan 22, 2021, 4:20 pm
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Tried these groups for the first time this holiday season.

USA lost an item of mine saying they never got it. I did a UPS claim and then the retailer sent a replacement to my home address. Had some close calls with MYS but they all came through. Buyformeretail was the best of them by far. Fast pay and service. But yeah USA and MYS seem like there's some risk working with them.

Being subscribed to these groups often on email they'll tell you when there's a drop on a hot item. Needless to say I made more when I was able to grab xboxes and sell on my own vs. send to them. Same for coin deals. But all of these groups made plenty of money from my buys as well.

Stacking Amex deals or cash back links for the items with commission worked out as an easy bit of money and SUBs with a few clicks.
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Old Jan 22, 2021, 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by harrydogyo

USA lost an item of mine saying they never got it. I did a UPS claim and then the retailer sent a replacement to my home address. Had some close calls with MYS but they all came through. Buyformeretail was the best of them by far. Fast pay and service. But yeah USA and MYS seem like there's some risk working with them.
I've read here that you can pick up or have items purchased delivered to your home then you can ship to USA. When I look at their sign up page it request you select a drop off location. I don't live anywhere near Delaware. Do you select any location and then when you need to ship you just to an address they provide on a shipping label? TIA
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Old Jan 25, 2021, 12:16 pm
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USA buying group - unreliable and shady

Exact same situation with 9 of my tracking numbers. Will post screenshots of this correspondence. They are really bad right now and Im absolutely not going to buy for them now. Over the last two years Ive done about 120k with them and more with other buying groups. Not doing any more with USA.
Originally Posted by usa_buying_group_sucks
USA buying group has become a total scam. DO NOT BUY FOR THEM. You will not get paid.

I've spent over $200k with them over the years and things have gone relatively smoothly. They are terribly slow in paying out checks but I haven't had missing packages. Suddenly they stopped scanning my packages since the new year. It took them forever to respond to tickets and when they do they gave lame excuses like "We've been doing inventory and will start scanning in a day or two". And guess what, a day or two passed and still nada. I have over $1k packages delivered and not scanned and at this point I'm not holding my hopes up. They'll ask you for proof of delivery and purchase in the ticket, and ask you how many of the same items you bought for them, and they then tell you they didn't receive the package -- and that's when they do respond to me. Now they just ignore me. I still have packages delivered on 12/02/2020 that is not scanned.

Swiping your card for some total stranger is always a risk. Let this be a lesson for anyone reading this thread. DO NOT BUY FOR USA BUYING GROUP. They will not pay you back. You have been warned.
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Old Jan 25, 2021, 12:54 pm
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Originally Posted by bodiddely
A question I'm wondering about (since I've started dabbling in reselling things locally myself with PS5s and XBox's) - what do these buyers clubs do with the merchandise (aside from ultra hot items like the next gen consoles that sell for hundreds above retail)? What are the doing with dozens or hundreds of iPads bought at a regularly available Amazon retail price?
noob question.
Where do you list these products? Craigslist, offerup?
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Old Jan 27, 2021, 4:37 pm
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BFMR helped me out when LaserShip screwed up my delivery

I placed a Walmart order worth more than $1000 for BFMR. Now I know that Walmart sometimes ships their orders through LaserShip, rather LaserShit (look up the reviews if you don't know about them). Given the high worth of my order, I specifically asked Walmart to not ship my order through LaserShip. I guess it fell on deaf ears and Walmart ended up sending it through LaserShip. Anyway, fast forward to the date of delivery, I received a notification from LaserShip that my package was "left at the front door" at 6 PM. Now, I'm aware of the fact that all the BFMR addresses are PO box address. I usually get a "left at mailroom" or "left at a secure place" notification upon delivery. So I emailed BFMR at around 8 PM explaining about my situation and asked them if they can check on the package for me. BFMR was extremely quick with their reply and they sent out someone to check on my package at night. They acted quick and, fortunately, they found the package left right at the door for anyone to grab it. If it wasn't for the BFMR's help, I would have probably lost $1000 that day. Of course, it goes without saying that they sent the payment on the same day.

I felt it was necessary to share my story for everyone to know that (a) LaserShip sucks (b) It makes a ton of difference when you are dealing with a buying group that goes above and beyond.
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Old Mar 2, 2021, 2:09 pm
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reload into Amzn using VGCs (or Amazon GCs) ?

Originally Posted by jjangoo
I'm also dumping vgc's via reloads and last night it took 2-5 hours for everything to clear so they're probably being held for manual review. Not sure if Amazon gc's are so foolproof either because people get shutdown for loading too many of those. Not sure how much is too much though.
Wanted to give this a bump. I'm *just* getting into BGs and am considering this strategy as a first dip of my toes into these waters.
jjangoo, mind providing a DP on how much you're dumping VGCs via reload? (range - $1k to $2.5k? less? more?)

To all others - any other DPs on Amzn reloading via VGCs or Amzn GCs direct?

Also, are people using their personal Amazon accounts for this? or a new one that's dedicated just for BGs? I can see it both ways:
- use your personal account - pro: your organic purchase and account history probably de-risks your BG transactions from the perspective of the automated risk algorithms - con: you risk getting your personal account banned if you get too greedy or careless
- use a dedicated account - pro: sandbox your personal from your professional/BG account - con: newly created accounts using VGC reloads and Amzn GCs are likely more heavily scrutinized and flagged at the highest risk by their algorithms

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Old Mar 2, 2021, 3:13 pm
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Did two transactions with Pointsmaker in the past month.. went well and transfers completed. Just a data point.
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Old Mar 2, 2021, 4:43 pm
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If you have a Chase Ink card, buy Amazon GCs at office stores. Get 5x points per $ spend. Load to your Amazon account. Wash Rinse Repeat

Or

Amex Gold Card, you get 4x per $ spend at grocery stores. Buy the Amazon GC's .....Wash Rinse Repeat
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Old Mar 2, 2021, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by cajunguy
If you have a Chase Ink card, buy Amazon GCs at office stores. Get 5x points per $ spend. Load to your Amazon account. Wash Rinse Repeat

Or

Amex Gold Card, you get 4x per $ spend at grocery stores. Buy the Amazon GC's .....Wash Rinse Repeat
The grocery angle is great if you can use gas points and sync with 2x / 4x promotions.
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Old Mar 3, 2021, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by TyPo311
The grocery angle is great if you can use gas points and sync with 2x / 4x promotions.
I have seen safeway and Fred Meyer / Krogers have this 2x/4x kinda promo's. How much does we need to spend to get discount on gas. Examples help.

Originally Posted by cajunguy
If you have a Chase Ink card, buy Amazon GCs at office stores. Get 5x points per $ spend. Load to your Amazon account. Wash Rinse Repeat

Or

Amex Gold Card, you get 4x per $ spend at grocery stores. Buy the Amazon GC's .....Wash Rinse Repeat
This means we need to use those Amazon funds for some shopping sooner or later right? Or are there other ways to liquidate Amazon account balances ?
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Old Mar 3, 2021, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by abhilife2001
I have seen safeway and Fred Meyer / Krogers have this 2x/4x kinda promo's. How much does we need to spend to get discount on gas. Examples help.
At Kroger, you get 1 point per dollar, and you save 10 cents per gallon for every 100 points. Usually 10 cents per gallon for $100 spend.
Example: spend $100, get 100 points, save 10 cents/gallon. Buy 10 gallons, save $1.00
Example: spend $200, get 200 points, save 20 cents/gallon. Buy 10 gallons, save $2.00
Example: spend $299, get 299 points, save 20 cents/gallon. You don't get partial credit for the extra 99 points.
Example: spend $100 during a 4x promotion, get 400 points, save 40 cents/gallon. Buy 10 gallons, save $4.00
Example spend $50 during a 4x promotion, get 200 points, save 20 cents/gallon. Buy 10 gallons, save $2.00
Max you can save is $1.00/gallon (1000 points, aka $1000 spend, or $250 spend at 4x). Points do not roll over month to month. Use it or lose it
Any more questions about the gas credit should probably go to the Kroger thread

This means we need to use those Amazon funds for some shopping sooner or later right? Or are there other ways to liquidate Amazon account balances ?
Since the topic is buying groups, I assume the plan would be to spend the Amazon funds on whatever the group wants. Profit from the credit card cashback when buying the gift cards, profit from the gas points, profit from reselling to the buying group. You could also buy personal stuff with the Amazon funds.
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