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$1000 gift cards to be available indefinitely. Notified by Simon Mall spokesperson on Dec 26 2019. ($1k cards are temporarily not available anymore at many Simon malls as of March 2020)
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Old Jan 3, 20, 9:30 am
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Just another data point. Went to Simon Malls in Atlanta and they said the $1,000 gift cards were going to be running indefinitely.

Bought $9,900 and it was just as easy as before.

Now, got to convert them to money orders despite the Walmart MO machine being so restricted.
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Old Jan 3, 20, 9:45 am
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LOL - keep on keeping on! Question for you - is Arianna your favorite blogger?
never heard of her
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Old Jan 3, 20, 10:52 am
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I have been using Chase unlimited freedom for Simon VGCs...received a chase secure message today:

Update: We are concerned about your rewards activity

We reviewed your credit card account and it appears certain activities indicate potential misuse of the rewards program. Examples of such activities include:
  • Buying or selling rewards
  • Selling, or participating in the sale or exchange of, gift cards, travel or other items of value obtained through use of rewards
  • Repeatedly opening or otherwise maintaining credit card accounts for the purpose of generating rewards
  • Manufacturing spend for the purpose of generating rewards
  • Moving or transferring rewards to an ineligible third party or account
  • Misuse of a third-party merchant or service provider program with which rewards may be used under this program
  • Misuse of a frequent travel program to which rewards may be transferred under this program, if applicable
We may close this and any other accounts you have with Chase if this activity continues, or if there is any other indication of misuse. Please see your rewards program agreement for additional details. If you have questions, please call us anytime at the number on the back of your card.
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Old Jan 3, 20, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by coolguy100 View Post
I have been using Chase unlimited freedom for Simon VGCs...received a chase secure message today:

Update: We are concerned about your rewards activity

We reviewed your credit card account and it appears certain activities indicate potential misuse of the rewards program. Examples of such activities include:
  • Buying or selling rewards
  • Selling, or participating in the sale or exchange of, gift cards, travel or other items of value obtained through use of rewards
  • Repeatedly opening or otherwise maintaining credit card accounts for the purpose of generating rewards
  • Manufacturing spend for the purpose of generating rewards
  • Moving or transferring rewards to an ineligible third party or account
  • Misuse of a third-party merchant or service provider program with which rewards may be used under this program
  • Misuse of a frequent travel program to which rewards may be transferred under this program, if applicable
We may close this and any other accounts you have with Chase if this activity continues, or if there is any other indication of misuse. Please see your rewards program agreement for additional details. If you have questions, please call us anytime at the number on the back of your card.

Darn, sorry to hear that they are cracking down on you. How much per month were you doing on that card?
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Old Jan 3, 20, 11:50 am
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Nice you got a warning!
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Old Jan 3, 20, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by coolguy100 View Post
I have been using Chase unlimited freedom for Simon VGCs...received a chase secure message today:

Update: We are concerned about your rewards activity

We reviewed your credit card account and it appears certain activities indicate potential misuse of the rewards program. Examples of such activities include:
  • Buying or selling rewards
  • Selling, or participating in the sale or exchange of, gift cards, travel or other items of value obtained through use of rewards
  • Repeatedly opening or otherwise maintaining credit card accounts for the purpose of generating rewards
  • Manufacturing spend for the purpose of generating rewards
  • Moving or transferring rewards to an ineligible third party or account
  • Misuse of a third-party merchant or service provider program with which rewards may be used under this program
  • Misuse of a frequent travel program to which rewards may be transferred under this program, if applicable
We may close this and any other accounts you have with Chase if this activity continues, or if there is any other indication of misuse. Please see your rewards program agreement for additional details. If you have questions, please call us anytime at the number on the back of your card.
You, unfortunately have been ratted out

There is a high likelihood that you are going to be shut down. I would be moving anything of value out of your account(s) asap before the axe falls.

While curtailing your behavior may spare you, most DPs from Chase are not positive. Please let us know what happens (and the amounts of MSing that you were doing.)
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Old Jan 3, 20, 2:20 pm
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I just wanted to follow up on my attempt to purchase a SMGC with my Citi World MC.

I went in and asked to buy a single $1000 card. When I used my Citicard, the purchase was declined .....again.....as usual

However, I used my phone to let Citi fraud know that I was purchasing the item and a simple text message to them unfroze the account.

The difference today was that the young lady behind the desk let me use the now unfrozen Citicard to complete the purchase. She is new and I suspect that she just didn't know the SM rule about not permitting one to use a just declined cc to purchase GCs.
So I got my card, but in the normal SM world, I would not have been able to use this CC.
OTOH, maybe SM has changed their rules. So other DPs on this would be helpful.
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Old Jan 3, 20, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by radonc1 View Post
OTOH, maybe SM has changed their rules. So other DPs on this would be helpful.
I was at a new mall and my card declined. The rep said that I had to wait a day to use that card again, but after looking a bit sad, explaining that I didn't want to have to drive all the way back the next day, and showing the fraud-prevention text from BoA, he let me re-run the card. I explained that it was likely due to being my first time at the new location. I think it's still against their rules, but they seem more like guidelines. YMMV
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Old Jan 3, 20, 3:23 pm
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Does all Simon Malls sell 1000 VGCs? Or just the ones that have a "Management Office" listed under stores? Specifically, I'm looking to head to University Park Village in DFW, but can't seem to find the answer anywhere.
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Old Jan 3, 20, 4:03 pm
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Originally Posted by radonc1 View Post
I just wanted to follow up on my attempt to purchase a SMGC with my Citi World MC.

I went in and asked to buy a single $1000 card. When I used my Citicard, the purchase was declined .....again.....as usual

However, I used my phone to let Citi fraud know that I was purchasing the item and a simple text message to them unfroze the account.

The difference today was that the young lady behind the desk let me use the now unfrozen Citicard to complete the purchase. She is new and I suspect that she just didn't know the SM rule about not permitting one to use a just declined cc to purchase GCs.
So I got my card, but in the normal SM world, I would not have been able to use this CC.
OTOH, maybe SM has changed their rules. So other DPs on this would be helpful.
After time, "training" your card to work for large purchases at Simon will fix this. This isn't a "Citi blocking Simon" problem.
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Old Jan 3, 20, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by deker0 View Post
Darn, sorry to hear that they are cracking down on you. How much per month were you doing on that card?
checked my Chase unlimited freedom statements....only used this card in Aug, Sep and Oct 3 consecutive months...each month did $19k Simon VGC with $19.5k CL. didn't use it in Nov and Dec at all. I don't use this card if not in Simon, if Chase closes it, go ahead, I don't care, chase is just the pain in the rear.

oh, I also used the leaked link to get approved for a new Ink card for 80k bonus points recently.
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Old Jan 4, 20, 6:29 am
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The Problem is bigger than you realize

Originally Posted by coolguy100 View Post
checked my Chase unlimited freedom statements....only used this card in Aug, Sep and Oct 3 consecutive months...each month did $19k Simon VGC with $19.5k CL. didn't use it in Nov and Dec at all. I don't use this card if not in Simon, if Chase closes it, go ahead, I don't care, chase is just the pain in the rear.

oh, I also used the leaked link to get approved for a new Ink card for 80k bonus points recently.
The problem is bigger than you realize, Chase will shutdown all your personal and business cards, so I suggest you just move your MS to a different non-chase card. I believe that if you had spread the love you would have been better off.

For example 7k on the chase unlimited, 7k on lets say a Cap one quicksilver and 7k on the Citi double cash card. that's 21k a month.

I'm guessing you were trying to get like $2,000 worth of Chase ultimate rewards, the problem is even if you said you have a 150k annual salary spending 57k in 3 months is still a lot of spend, especially on a personal card and at one type of place.

I wish you luck though.
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Old Jan 4, 20, 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by danpeake View Post
After time, "training" your card to work for large purchases at Simon will fix this. This isn't a "Citi blocking Simon" problem.
I have tried many times to do this at SM without success. This is not a new card and it has been well used over the years for large organic purchases (4 digit range) without a beep from Citi. It also has a large line that I never come close to.

So it is hard for me to believe that this isn't a SM thing. However, I will now use the card (or attempt to ) on a routine basis (maybe once or twice a month) at SM for a single GC purchase just to see if I can get Citi fraud off my case.
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Old Jan 4, 20, 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by coolguy100 View Post
checked my Chase unlimited freedom statements....only used this card in Aug, Sep and Oct 3 consecutive months...each month did $19k Simon VGC with $19.5k CL. didn't use it in Nov and Dec at all. I don't use this card if not in Simon, if Chase closes it, go ahead, I don't care, chase is just the pain in the rear.

oh, I also used the leaked link to get approved for a new Ink card for 80k bonus points recently.
Move your points now! Get everything out of your accounts that you value. When the rats smell the cheese, they don't nibble, they devour it.
Chase has no compunction of closing out accounts and confiscating awards points.

As @joeaseer said, your problem will be that Chase will close out all of your business, not only all cards but all checking and savings accounts as well (other than loans). This is not insignificant since Chase is into so many different travel credit cards that it will impact your activities.

The fact that you have not used your Freedom card for 2 months after the splurge of activity to me is not a good indication that stopping your activity will change the direction of things to come. Furthermore, the use of an unauthorized link to obtain another card with a bonus was probably the proverbial Swiss that got the rodent's attention

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Old Jan 4, 20, 9:00 am
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Chase has no compunction of closing out accounts and confiscating awards points.
This is what happens when you come to FT for advice
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