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Old Jan 2, 2019, 9:51 am
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As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe with some metas at some stores. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.

This is the thread for 2019. The previous discussion can be found here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manu...rt-2018-a.html

New to MO: Read this entire Wiki (Click to open) and all posts for some tips before asking common questions. It is best to know what you are doing before you try.

Note: The policy for allowing gift cards as payment for money orders can be more restrictive with certain stores or certain clerks. Just because an employee says there's a new restrictive policy "for all Walmarts" means nothing. There are plenty of cases where the employee is incorrect and the new policy is only regional or store specific.

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Tested Gebit (gift debit) cards:
1. DO NOT WORK - Any Vanilla product affiliated with InComm or ITC Financial Services will not work for swipes over $49.99.
2. See above on Visas issued by MetaBank. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe with some metas at some stores. Follow the posts below for the latest information.
3. MC issued by US bank OR Metabank MC (Giftcards.com) can work, but you need to change payment type to debit before they enter the amount in the register. See below for details.
4. Gdot/sun work but take about an hour to activate.(VGC issued by Sunrise also limited to $99/swipe, same as Metabank issued cards, and Sunrise was available immediately).
5. USB work
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NEW Limits as of 11/18 - 8K with ID every 24 hours. ID required for MO over 1K.

Some tips for starting out:

All WM registers allow 4 debit swipes per transaction, but YMMV per store and cashier. Refer to cards as Debit cards.

Start slow and buy one MO with one Gebit to see how it works. Refer to cards as Debit, only this community calls them Gebits. Your store or cashier may have rules that other stores do not have, only allowing one swipe per trans or up to 4 swipes per trans. Read all the tips below and all the posts below before trying more advanced transactions. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card. Fee: 1K MO or less is usually 88 cents each, but ask or check the wall. Subtract the fee from the total or pay in cash. If a store says "no", thank them and try again another day with a different clerk.


Helpful details and tips for advanced transactions:

1. Cost:
1K MO fee is usually $1 each(Some states limit MO total to 750 or 950 and may have a different fee). Subtract fee from your total or pay in cash. Can buy two 1K MO in one transaction with 4 swipes for $1 x 2 in most states. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card.

2. Split payment transactions: You cannot successfully swipe more than 4 cards in a single transaction. If the cashier screws up and enters $50.00 instead of $500.00 (thus making it impossible for 4 swipes to complete the transaction), the transaction will need to be canceled. The funds should return to your cards right away but may take 24 hours, so note the time and person helping you. When a transaction is canceled during the trans, the money returns to the cards. If canceled after, the cash reg drawer opens and they pay you back in cash.

3. Split payment: The amount of each swipe needs to be entered by the cashier. Ask to "split the payment by $$$". The Gebit must have current balance of that amount or more otherwise slip with Error 51 will print out. Warning: (YMMV) It appears (my experience on 3 occasions during prepaid card load and buying MO in 2 different WMs) that after the debit card was charged no cash could be credited back to the card. Cashier should issue cash back. Keep the slip and contact manager if in doubt. Remember date, time and register if no slip.

4. Bad Printer: IF, by chance, you've swiped your GCs successfully, a receipt prints but the MO doesn't, make sure to ask to see the receipt and check near the bottom IF it says CHANGE/REFUND with a negative sign before the amount of GCs you swiped, that means the cashier must give you cash refund. Cashier may have to call for the cash dept manager to verify the refund. Some stores may outright give your cash refund immediately while there are others that will ask you to come back. Think twice before you buy MOs while on vacation or when you're in unknown to you territories for issues like this.

5. Kiosk: Very few Kate's can sell money orders anymore.>>>>Sometime 2016, a lot of WM supercenters have done away with Kate (kiosks that allows loading of prepaids/sell $500 MOs). As of today, MOST, if not ALL WMs, have replaced this with the regular slim ATM to check balance/withdraw money. Kates are a distant and pleasant memory now.

6. MCGC liquidation- The cashier should
not enter the amount first. Technically they just can't hit enter after entering the amount. Let the CSR know you need to swipe first and switch the payment type to debit, then swipe and hit "Cancel" or "Change Payment" to select "Debit" on the screen, enter the pin and have them enter the amount.

7. SSN/ID entry - Any MO purchases in one transaction at or over $3K requires you to input your SSN. Any MO at or over $1K requires ID input (and ID requirement can also be forced by cashier at any amount).



Debit codes PDF
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/attac...0&d=1461170080

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Old Feb 19, 2021, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by danpeake
Good to know. Is there a similar lookup for MC?
Ah not that I'm aware of I think visa and Mc should code the same for most places. But might have to do a test purchase just to be safe
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Old Feb 20, 2021, 9:11 pm
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Was surprised to find that so many of the CVSs in my area are out of the SCVGCs and the few that had some a couple days ago are wiped out now. With the $2K/24hrs limit at CVS I didn't think they would go through so much volume in such a short period of time, but I seemed to have underestimated the demand.

Anyhow, a couple of the FDs in my area had full racks of them so I grabbed three, bought one at FD ("store limit with CC"), and took the other two (not activated) with me to CVS to see if they would scan in and load/activate properly at CVS and it worked fine. Drained all three SCVGCs at WM within the hour they were bought.

Going to grab a couple more tomorrow and see if they will load at WM at the MC, but I'm doubtful as I've yet to see them in any of the WMs in my area despite the SC website listing WM as a purchase location.
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Old Feb 20, 2021, 11:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Prometheus77
Was surprised to find that so many of the CVSs in my area are out of the SCVGCs and the few that had some a couple days ago are wiped out now. With the $2K/24hrs limit at CVS I didn't think they would go through so much volume in such a short period of time, but I seemed to have underestimated the demand.

Anyhow, a couple of the FDs in my area had full racks of them so I grabbed three, bought one at FD ("store limit with CC"), and took the other two (not activated) with me to CVS to see if they would scan in and load/activate properly at CVS and it worked fine. Drained all three SCVGCs at WM within the hour they were bought.

Going to grab a couple more tomorrow and see if they will load at WM at the MC, but I'm doubtful as I've yet to see them in any of the WMs in my area despite the SC website listing WM as a purchase location.
I'll save you the test. They work. For basically everything at wally.
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Old Feb 20, 2021, 11:39 pm
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Originally Posted by ricohitman
I'll save you the test. They work. For basically everything at wally.
Are they subject to that $99 limit since they look like MB VGCs?
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 4:16 am
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Originally Posted by ricohitman
I'll save you the test. They work. For basically everything at wally.
I didn't mean "test" in regards to liquidation, but rather that one could bring an unloaded/activated SCVGC taken off the rack at one store and purchase/load it at WM for the purposes of by passing CVS and FD's purchase limit on GCs per 24 hours.
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by Prometheus77
I didn't mean "test" in regards to liquidation, but rather that one could bring an unloaded/activated SCVGC taken off the rack at one store and purchase/load it at WM for the purposes of by passing CVS and FD's purchase limit on GCs per 24 hours.
Just don't get caught

What you are doing is considered shoplifting, and there is no hobby that I know of that is worth a criminal record of any type
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by Prometheus77
Going to grab a couple more tomorrow and see if they will load at WM at the MC, but I'm doubtful as I've yet to see them in any of the WMs in my area despite the SC website listing WM as a purchase location.
Why the MC? I would think if you just go to a reg ckout you would have less of a climb-down if it doesn't work.

If it doesn't work at a reg ckout, the cashier may ask if you want to go get another one, and you can pretend to do so, but just leave.

If it doesn't work at the MC, they may discover it's not in their system and want to know where the heck you got it, while exposing your face to the MC. Lord knows what could happen.
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Prometheus77
I didn't mean "test" in regards to liquidation, but rather that one could bring an unloaded/activated SCVGC taken off the rack at one store and purchase/load it at WM for the purposes of by passing CVS and FD's purchase limit on GCs per 24 hours.
You can be caught by WM for trying to buy an item that's unlisted in their inventory. Plus as previously mentioned, you'd be shoplifting from CVS.
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 6:09 pm
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FD? What is that store?
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 6:53 pm
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FD? What is that store?
Family Dollar
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 6:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Prometheus77
Was surprised to find that so many of the CVSs in my area are out of the SCVGCs and the few that had some a couple days ago are wiped out now. With the $2K/24hrs limit at CVS I didn't think they would go through so much volume in such a short period of time, but I seemed to have underestimated the demand.

Anyhow, a couple of the FDs in my area had full racks of them so I grabbed three, bought one at FD ("store limit with CC"), and took the other two (not activated) with me to CVS to see if they would scan in and load/activate properly at CVS and it worked fine. Drained all three SCVGCs at WM within the hour they were bought.

Going to grab a couple more tomorrow and see if they will load at WM at the MC, but I'm doubtful as I've yet to see them in any of the WMs in my area despite the SC website listing WM as a purchase location.
don't see any SCVGCs in the CVS near my house.
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 6:58 pm
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Family Dollar
Thank you for that. I could not wrap my brain around those initials.
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Old Feb 21, 2021, 11:16 pm
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It's like hunting for the holy grail now. I have isolated all the 711s and cvs's that have them in my area. Tried multiple walgreens and circle ks to no avail. Slow rollout i guess.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by ricohitman
It's like hunting for the holy grail now. I have isolated all the 711s and cvs's that have them in my area. Tried multiple walgreens and circle ks to no avail. Slow rollout i guess.
So this is like GC wack-a-mole.

i wonder how long it will take WM to place a block on the new card?

Maybe we should do an over/under table.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by ricohitman
It's like hunting for the holy grail now. I have isolated all the 711s and cvs's that have them in my area. Tried multiple walgreens and circle ks to no avail. Slow rollout i guess.
Maybe the issuer will notice an uptick in demand and start rolling them out faster. I've seen none in my area.
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