Old Jan 9, 2018, 7:46 pm
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This is a new thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.

DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.

Sep 13 2021 : If WM App is updated with no money services , then use the following for Android phone to get the working version.


https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type...ge=1&s=walmart
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/

This workaround no longer works.

Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction
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BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.

WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.

Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.

Payments:
Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.

BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)

Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.

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Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.

:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."

"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.

Following do not work:

Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.

Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC

Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.

Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99

Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days

Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:

BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:

BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.

Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.

Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.




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Old Aug 31, 2018, 7:14 am
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So, MG is refusing to refund the fees on my recent Penfed payments. Of course they are saying that Penfed is the one rejecting the payments. Sure...
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Old Aug 31, 2018, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by cdog999
So, MG is refusing to refund the fees on my recent Penfed payments. Of course they are saying that Penfed is the one rejecting the payments. Sure...
You can always try asking wally but i would let it go if it were me
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Old Sep 1, 2018, 6:16 pm
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anyone experiencing problem making payment to "Chase Cardmember Service" using the APP. It always throws an error saying "we are having temporary system issue."
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by infovis
anyone experiencing problem making payment to "Chase Cardmember Service" using the APP. It always throws an error saying "we are having temporary system issue."
better not BP chase cards....chase will shut down your cards quickly
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by coolguy100
better not BP chase cards....chase will shut down your cards quickly
I've done Chase before but small amounts.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by coolguy100
better not BP chase cards....chase will shut down your cards quickly
You've probably hit the rotating max for this payee already.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 11:54 am
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I have been trying on the app BP to my CU, but keeps giving me an error? anyone have suggestions? can this be done?
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by coolguy100
call MG...they will give you a new reference number for you to get cash.
One of my walmarts wouldnt let me use the proceeds to purchase MOs. Told me purchasing MOs with the refunds would be structuring They seemed fine going to the back office to get more cash.
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 2:57 am
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Originally Posted by cdog999
One of my walmarts wouldnt let me use the proceeds to purchase MOs. Told me purchasing MOs with the refunds would be structuring
The WM cashiers are such experts in regards to structuring, money laundering, financial fraud, and other federal crimes and illegal activity, they ought to be working for the U.S. Treasury.
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 7:46 pm
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Anyone does $2000 bill pay to CapitalOne QuickSilver visa card monthly? any issues?
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 8:57 pm
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Very Strange Event

I did several BP's today, not at all unusual for me. However, at the end of one (all 4 swipes) the system said "Transaction Cancelled, Issue Refund" or words to that effect. The CSR reached into the drawer and handed me $2K in cash. After doing the other two we did that one again, same result. (Not that I mind cash, but not that I really wanted it either.)

I have no idea what happened. I've done about 250 4-swipe BP's. When I first did them I wasn't using the mobile app and occasionally I'd get an error, which I ultimately discovered was exceeding the 5 transaction per rolling 30 days rule. I keep careful track of my BP's and do them exactly on the 30-day cycle, and if I try to load them into the mobile app before midnight I get an error. So I think it would have kicked it out if I was exceeding that limit.

If it matters, the payee was "Mastercard."

I'm going to wait a couple days to try it again.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by redtop43
I did several BP's today, not at all unusual for me. However, at the end of one (all 4 swipes) the system said "Transaction Cancelled, Issue Refund" or words to that effect. The CSR reached into the drawer and handed me $2K in cash. After doing the other two we did that one again, same result. (Not that I mind cash, but not that I really wanted it either.)

I have no idea what happened. I've done about 250 4-swipe BP's. When I first did them I wasn't using the mobile app and occasionally I'd get an error, which I ultimately discovered was exceeding the 5 transaction per rolling 30 days rule. I keep careful track of my BP's and do them exactly on the 30-day cycle, and if I try to load them into the mobile app before midnight I get an error. So I think it would have kicked it out if I was exceeding that limit.

If it matters, the payee was "Mastercard."

I'm going to wait a couple days to try it again.
I got declined trying to pay a visa which I am 100% sure I did not run over the five times limit. Very annoyed. Anyone has any insights on why all of a sudden with these declines?
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by redarmy
I got declined trying to pay a visa which I am 100% sure I did not run over the five times limit. Very annoyed. Anyone has any insights on why all of a sudden with these declines?
check your credit card statement to see the payment transaction history.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 1:11 pm
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We just had 3 Mastercard payments cancel and they paid us in cash. I believe the wrong fee is being charged in the app. It was usually 1.88, but somehow it is set to 1.50 and that might be why it is failing to process. My barclay payment went through fine.
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 10:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Travelz
We just had 3 Mastercard payments cancel and they paid us in cash. I believe the wrong fee is being charged in the app. It was usually 1.88, but somehow it is set to 1.50 and that might be why it is failing to process. My barclay payment went through fine.
my wm says urs nvr hv issuse and they refnded wit cache bakk othrs
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