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This is the thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

The 2019 thread can be found here

New to MO: Read this entire Wiki (Click to open) and all posts for some tips before asking common questions. It is best to know what you are doing before you try.
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Tested Gebit cards:
1. DO NOT WORK - Any Vanilla product affiliated with InComm or ITC Financial Services will not work for swipes over $49.99.
2. Visas issued by MetaBank work great.
3. MC issued by US bank work good, but you need to change payment type to debit before they enter the amount in the register. See below for details.
5. Gdot/sun work but take about an hour to activate.

NEW Limits as of 11/18 - 8K with ID every 24 hours. ID required for MO over 1K.
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Some tips for starting out:

All WM registers allow 4 debit swipes per transaction, but YMMV per store and cashier. Refer to cards as Debit cards.

Start slow and buy one MO with one Gebit to see how it works. Refer to cards as Debit, only this community calls them Gebits. Your store or cashier may have rules that other stores do not have, only allowing one swipe per trans or up to 4 swipes per trans. Read all the tips below and all the posts below before trying more advanced transactions. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card. Fee: 1K MO or less is usually 88 cents each, but ask or check the wall. Subtract the fee from the total or pay in cash. If a store says "no", thank them and try again another day with a different clerk.


Helpful details and tips for advanced transactions:

1. Cost:
1K MO fee is usually 88 cents each(Some states limit MO total to 750 or 950 and may have a different fee). Subtract fee from your total or pay in cash. Can buy two 1K MO in one transaction with 4 swipes for 88 cents x 2 in most states. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card.

2. Split payment transcations: You cannot successfully swipe more than 4 cards in a single transaction. If the cashier screws up and enters $50.00 instead of $500.00 (thus making it impossible for 4 swipes to complete the transaction), the transaction will need to be canceled. The funds should return to your cards right away but may take 24 hours, so note the time and person helping you. When a transaction is canceled during the trans, the money returns to the cards. If canceled after, the cash reg drawer opens and they pay you back in cash.

3. Split payment: The amount of each swipe needs to be entered by the cashier. Ask to "split the payment by $$$". The Gebit must have current balance of that amount or more otherwise slip with Error 51 will print out. Warning: (YMMV) It appears (my experience on 3 occasions during prepaid card load and buying MO in 2 different WMs) that after the debit card was charged no cash could be credited back to the card. Cashier should issue cash back. Keep the slip and contact manager if in doubt. Remember date, time and register if no slip.

4. Bad Printer: IF, by chance, you've swiped your GCs successfully, a receipt prints but the MO doesn't, make sure to ask to see the receipt and check near the bottom IF it says CHANGE/REFUND with a negative sign before the amount of GCs you swiped, that means the cashier must give you cash refund. Cashier may have to call for the cash dept manager to verify the refund. Some stores may outright give your cash refund immediately while there are others that will ask you to come back. Think twice before you buy MOs while on vacation or when you're in unknown to you territories for issues like this.

5. Kiosk: Very few Kate's can sell money orders anymore.>>>>Sometime 2016, a lot of WM supercenters have done away with Kate (kiosks that allows loading of prepaids/sell $500 MOs). As of today, MOST, if not ALL WMs, have replaced this with the regular slim ATM to check balance/withdraw money.

6. MCGC liquidation- The cashier should
not enter the amount first. Technically they just can't hit enter after entering the amount. Let the CSR know you need to swipe first and switch the payment type to debit, then swipe and hit "Cancel" or "Change Payment" to select "Debit" on the screen, enter the pin and have them enter the amount.

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Buying Money Orders at Walmart (2018)

Old Nov 2, 2018, 12:46 pm
  #1846  
 
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Originally Posted by knopfler
I would rather not give the info, but I have places to go in lie down seats! If they were asking for SSN I would probably just switch to $999 MO's. And I may do that anyway, or a mix of $2k and $999. If MG bans me, it will be unfortunate but I will be OK with it. The PRG amex card devaluation has already made it much more labor intensive.
If they ban you, you can always do MO's under $1k without showing ID
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 1:22 pm
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Havent looked but is PP an option for MO? It doesn't have address on it which seems to be a required field.
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 1:27 pm
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Multiple transaction of $999.11 is the new standard.
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by briang191
Multiple transaction of $999.11 is the new standard.
Did that work for u?
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by cdog999
Did that work for u?
this is very much YMMV. it is up to the store to allow it or not. Walmart policy definitely implicitly disallow it. most Walmart stores in my neck of woods only allow one transaction per day for years.
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 6:47 pm
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Attempted to use a US Bank MCGC from Safeway for 4th swipe (1st 3 swipes were regular VGCs), at the approval screen kicks me back to swipe again an would not go through. Am I missing something?

No change payment option came up, I didn't do anything with the card after taking it out of the package (i.e. set PIN, etc.)
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by knopfler


Yes, three $2k stops in the morning and one $2k stop in the afternoon. Just checked my receipt and first $2k was 0820 central time, so we are now one minute past that. About to go try last WM for the morning.
Why waste time, just get $8K. Since this is what they allow, it looks more fishy making multiple stops.
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 8:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Mamibear
If ID check is their means to control MO purchases, hopefully, it's like CVS's rolling 24 hrs policy on VGC. Please let us know result.
I was told last week the daily limit is $8K by a friendly. Yesterday two different friendlies said its $8K every 24 hours. I thanked them for the heads up, told them I'm not coming every day, maybe 1-2 times per week.
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by cdog999
Did that work for u?
worked for me As someone said YMMV
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Old Nov 3, 2018, 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by mhdena
Why waste time, just get $8K. Since this is what they allow, it looks more fishy making multiple stops.
Because the new memo didn't explicitly tell those minions that now it's ok to just allow 8K, so they still insist it must be done in one transaction. Hopefully some stores will figure it out or there's further guidance sent as a memo.
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Old Nov 3, 2018, 9:41 am
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I'm actually OK with the changes. My Walmart is very accommodating; however, we have a couple of individuals who show up with $50K in gift cards that tie up the associates, and backlogs the line.

From DOC:
  • If you buy $1,000+ in money orders (including fees), the system will ask for identity verifications. Previously, the threshold was $3,000.
  • Total money order purchases will be limited to $8,000 per customer, per day. Previous limit was $10,000.
  • Bill-pay is now limited to $8,000 per rolling 30 days.
In addition, associates are not permitted to run $1,000 back-to-back in order to avoid showing an ID. There is also a 4 card swipe limit (as always), which means that if you would like to deplete $8,000 in cards (16) cards, the associate must re-enter your ID information after every 4 swipes.
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Old Nov 3, 2018, 9:54 am
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$999.12 works too
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Old Nov 3, 2018, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by TTT103
I'm actually OK with the changes. My Walmart is very accommodating; however, we have a couple of individuals who show up with $50K in gift cards that tie up the associates, and backlogs the line.

From DOC:
  • If you buy $1,000+ in money orders (including fees), the system will ask for identity verifications. Previously, the threshold was $3,000.
  • Total money order purchases will be limited to $8,000 per customer, per day. Previous limit was $10,000.
  • Bill-pay is now limited to $8,000 per rolling 30 days.
In addition, associates are not permitted to run $1,000 back-to-back in order to avoid showing an ID. There is also a 4 card swipe limit (as always), which means that if you would like to deplete $8,000 in cards (16) cards, the associate must re-enter your ID information after every 4 swipes.
this is at the store manager's discretion
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Old Nov 3, 2018, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by coolguy100
this is at the store manager's discretion
Good to know. Thank you
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Old Nov 3, 2018, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by TTT103
I'm actually OK with the changes. My Walmart is very accommodating; however, we have a couple of individuals who show up with $50K in gift cards that tie up the associates, and backlogs the line.

From DOC:
  • If you buy $1,000+ in money orders (including fees), the system will ask for identity verifications. Previously, the threshold was $3,000.
  • Total money order purchases will be limited to $8,000 per customer, per day. Previous limit was $10,000.
  • Bill-pay is now limited to $8,000 per rolling 30 days.
In addition, associates are not permitted to run $1,000 back-to-back in order to avoid showing an ID. There is also a 4 card swipe limit (as always), which means that if you would like to deplete $8,000 in cards (16) cards, the associate must re-enter your ID information after every 4 swipes.
do you think the changes will effect the individuals with 50k in gift cards?
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