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Old Jan 1, 2018, 10:53 am
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This is the thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

The 2019 thread can be found here

New to MO: Read this entire Wiki (Click to open) and all posts for some tips before asking common questions. It is best to know what you are doing before you try.
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Tested Gebit cards:
1. DO NOT WORK - Any Vanilla product affiliated with InComm or ITC Financial Services will not work for swipes over $49.99.
2. Visas issued by MetaBank work great.
3. MC issued by US bank work good, but you need to change payment type to debit before they enter the amount in the register. See below for details.
5. Gdot/sun work but take about an hour to activate.

NEW Limits as of 11/18 - 8K with ID every 24 hours. ID required for MO over 1K.
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Some tips for starting out:

All WM registers allow 4 debit swipes per transaction, but YMMV per store and cashier. Refer to cards as Debit cards.

Start slow and buy one MO with one Gebit to see how it works. Refer to cards as Debit, only this community calls them Gebits. Your store or cashier may have rules that other stores do not have, only allowing one swipe per trans or up to 4 swipes per trans. Read all the tips below and all the posts below before trying more advanced transactions. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card. Fee: 1K MO or less is usually 88 cents each, but ask or check the wall. Subtract the fee from the total or pay in cash. If a store says "no", thank them and try again another day with a different clerk.


Helpful details and tips for advanced transactions:

1. Cost:
1K MO fee is usually 88 cents each(Some states limit MO total to 750 or 950 and may have a different fee). Subtract fee from your total or pay in cash. Can buy two 1K MO in one transaction with 4 swipes for 88 cents x 2 in most states. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card.

2. Split payment transcations: You cannot successfully swipe more than 4 cards in a single transaction. If the cashier screws up and enters $50.00 instead of $500.00 (thus making it impossible for 4 swipes to complete the transaction), the transaction will need to be canceled. The funds should return to your cards right away but may take 24 hours, so note the time and person helping you. When a transaction is canceled during the trans, the money returns to the cards. If canceled after, the cash reg drawer opens and they pay you back in cash.

3. Split payment: The amount of each swipe needs to be entered by the cashier. Ask to "split the payment by $$$". The Gebit must have current balance of that amount or more otherwise slip with Error 51 will print out. Warning: (YMMV) It appears (my experience on 3 occasions during prepaid card load and buying MO in 2 different WMs) that after the debit card was charged no cash could be credited back to the card. Cashier should issue cash back. Keep the slip and contact manager if in doubt. Remember date, time and register if no slip.

4. Bad Printer: IF, by chance, you've swiped your GCs successfully, a receipt prints but the MO doesn't, make sure to ask to see the receipt and check near the bottom IF it says CHANGE/REFUND with a negative sign before the amount of GCs you swiped, that means the cashier must give you cash refund. Cashier may have to call for the cash dept manager to verify the refund. Some stores may outright give your cash refund immediately while there are others that will ask you to come back. Think twice before you buy MOs while on vacation or when you're in unknown to you territories for issues like this.

5. Kiosk: Very few Kate's can sell money orders anymore.>>>>Sometime 2016, a lot of WM supercenters have done away with Kate (kiosks that allows loading of prepaids/sell $500 MOs). As of today, MOST, if not ALL WMs, have replaced this with the regular slim ATM to check balance/withdraw money.

6. MCGC liquidation- The cashier should
not enter the amount first. Technically they just can't hit enter after entering the amount. Let the CSR know you need to swipe first and switch the payment type to debit, then swipe and hit "Cancel" or "Change Payment" to select "Debit" on the screen, enter the pin and have them enter the amount.

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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/attac...0&d=1461170080
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Old Apr 25, 2018, 8:46 am
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But you still need to tell them the swipe amount before they hit enter as most of us are using 4 GC's at a time!
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Old Apr 25, 2018, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by lumangoy
at my location, I ask if I can swipe first before they enter amount.

Some ask before I even tell them
to be clear, you can swipe before they enter the amount, but entering the amount is not the issue....it is when they hit enter before you'd changed your payment over and put in the pin......
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Old Apr 25, 2018, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by THEsocalledfan
to be clear, you can swipe before they enter the amount, but entering the amount is not the issue....it is when they hit enter before you'd changed your payment over and put in the pin......
I know, it's just easier to tell them I need to swipe first for those that don't know.

Some know and enter amount but don't hit enter until I've changed payment to debit.
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Old Apr 25, 2018, 10:58 am
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Does the rep need to know the total amount of MO first?
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Old Apr 25, 2018, 11:49 am
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Anyone having issues with US Bank issued VGC? I tried creating a MO of $999.12 (2x500) at 3 local WM and each POS station could not read my card(s). Money is still in both cards and PIN has been changed. Is it possible I got some bad cards? I purchased these from Kroger and haven't had any issues with them before.

This is the first time this has happened so not sure what to do besides call USB and see if they can send replacement cards.
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Old Apr 25, 2018, 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by BSpatula31
Anyone having issues with US Bank issued VGC? I tried creating a MO of $999.12 (2x500) at 3 local WM and each POS station could not read my card(s). Money is still in both cards and PIN has been changed. Is it possible I got some bad cards? I purchased these from Kroger and haven't had any issues with them before.

This is the first time this has happened so not sure what to do besides call USB and see if they can send replacement cards.
Try to purchase a pack of gum to test whether the cards will work when you swipe them for a regular purchase
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by BSpatula31
Anyone having issues with US Bank issued VGC? I tried creating a MO of $999.12 (2x500) at 3 local WM and each POS station could not read my card(s). Money is still in both cards and PIN has been changed. Is it possible I got some bad cards? I purchased these from Kroger and haven't had any issues with them before.

This is the first time this has happened so not sure what to do besides call USB and see if they can send replacement cards.
I've experienced that as well, where the terminal would not read the cards. I called in to get new ones sent out (as a replacement), which they issued for no fee. However, that didn't stop the old cards from working as the cards were drained within 3 days.
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 10:04 am
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If you are comfortable doing so, I've had success letting the CSR swipe the card on their side, every time.
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 10:14 am
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Norcal: Not having success. Most locations ask to see the card first.
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by fgirard
I've experienced that as well, where the terminal would not read the cards. I called in to get new ones sent out (as a replacement), which they issued for no fee. However, that didn't stop the old cards from working as the cards were drained within 3 days.
I tried again today at one of the ones I went to yesterday. No issues and got my MO
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 1:26 pm
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I would like to share a grocery store that allows you pay MO by debit cards. The MO is issued by WU, up to $1000 each.
It's called Winco Foods, mostly located in the Western US.
Both Onevallina and USbank GCs work.
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by BSpatula31
I tried again today at one of the ones I went to yesterday. No issues and got my MO
Have you ever tried using Mastercard issued by Metabank?
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by forever1001
I would like to share a grocery store that allows you pay MO by debit cards.
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Thanks, good to know in case travel takes me to that area. How much is their MO fee?
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by MaxVO
Thanks, good to know in case travel takes me to that area. How much is their MO fee?
0.48
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Old Apr 26, 2018, 10:01 pm
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sorry I dont get it rergarding the MCs

WM is a problem so why go there?? I simply go to the supermkts that issue MOs, only thing is they wont allow split payments, so I go to chain that charges $.59. Id even pay a $1 since this week its been $0 fee at Staples, no need to pig out and try to swipe 4 at WM for $.88
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