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Old Jan 1, 2018, 10:53 am
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This is the thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

The 2019 thread can be found here

New to MO: Read this entire Wiki (Click to open) and all posts for some tips before asking common questions. It is best to know what you are doing before you try.
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Tested Gebit cards:
1. DO NOT WORK - Any Vanilla product affiliated with InComm or ITC Financial Services will not work for swipes over $49.99.
2. Visas issued by MetaBank work great.
3. MC issued by US bank work good, but you need to change payment type to debit before they enter the amount in the register. See below for details.
5. Gdot/sun work but take about an hour to activate.

NEW Limits as of 11/18 - 8K with ID every 24 hours. ID required for MO over 1K.
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Some tips for starting out:

All WM registers allow 4 debit swipes per transaction, but YMMV per store and cashier. Refer to cards as Debit cards.

Start slow and buy one MO with one Gebit to see how it works. Refer to cards as Debit, only this community calls them Gebits. Your store or cashier may have rules that other stores do not have, only allowing one swipe per trans or up to 4 swipes per trans. Read all the tips below and all the posts below before trying more advanced transactions. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card. Fee: 1K MO or less is usually 88 cents each, but ask or check the wall. Subtract the fee from the total or pay in cash. If a store says "no", thank them and try again another day with a different clerk.


Helpful details and tips for advanced transactions:

1. Cost:
1K MO fee is usually 88 cents each(Some states limit MO total to 750 or 950 and may have a different fee). Subtract fee from your total or pay in cash. Can buy two 1K MO in one transaction with 4 swipes for 88 cents x 2 in most states. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card.

2. Split payment transcations: You cannot successfully swipe more than 4 cards in a single transaction. If the cashier screws up and enters $50.00 instead of $500.00 (thus making it impossible for 4 swipes to complete the transaction), the transaction will need to be canceled. The funds should return to your cards right away but may take 24 hours, so note the time and person helping you. When a transaction is canceled during the trans, the money returns to the cards. If canceled after, the cash reg drawer opens and they pay you back in cash.

3. Split payment: The amount of each swipe needs to be entered by the cashier. Ask to "split the payment by $$$". The Gebit must have current balance of that amount or more otherwise slip with Error 51 will print out. Warning: (YMMV) It appears (my experience on 3 occasions during prepaid card load and buying MO in 2 different WMs) that after the debit card was charged no cash could be credited back to the card. Cashier should issue cash back. Keep the slip and contact manager if in doubt. Remember date, time and register if no slip.

4. Bad Printer: IF, by chance, you've swiped your GCs successfully, a receipt prints but the MO doesn't, make sure to ask to see the receipt and check near the bottom IF it says CHANGE/REFUND with a negative sign before the amount of GCs you swiped, that means the cashier must give you cash refund. Cashier may have to call for the cash dept manager to verify the refund. Some stores may outright give your cash refund immediately while there are others that will ask you to come back. Think twice before you buy MOs while on vacation or when you're in unknown to you territories for issues like this.

5. Kiosk: Very few Kate's can sell money orders anymore.>>>>Sometime 2016, a lot of WM supercenters have done away with Kate (kiosks that allows loading of prepaids/sell $500 MOs). As of today, MOST, if not ALL WMs, have replaced this with the regular slim ATM to check balance/withdraw money.

6. MCGC liquidation- The cashier should
not enter the amount first. Technically they just can't hit enter after entering the amount. Let the CSR know you need to swipe first and switch the payment type to debit, then swipe and hit "Cancel" or "Change Payment" to select "Debit" on the screen, enter the pin and have them enter the amount.

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Old Nov 12, 2018, 5:45 pm
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agree!!! BTW doing 300.00 or 200.00 VGC via Staples even with Ink is not a good return after fees. Do you possess Old amex blue cash or the new amex gold card?. Even the Disc 3% for 1 year miles card is better then Ink at Staples. But when Staples has a deal..like this week..its a no brainer.
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 8:46 pm
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Trouble with buying MO at WM with MCGC

I'm having trouble purchasing and MO at Walmart with my MCGC. I followed the intructions in the OP, but wasn't able to get to a screen that allowed me to select debit. The CSR wasn't able to offer any helpful suggestions, unfortunately. Could someone elaborate on the process for buying a MO with a MCGC at Walmart?
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Old Nov 13, 2018, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by pj77
I'm having trouble purchasing and MO at Walmart with my MCGC. I followed the intructions in the OP, but wasn't able to get to a screen that allowed me to select debit. The CSR wasn't able to offer any helpful suggestions, unfortunately. Could someone elaborate on the process for buying a MO with a MCGC at Walmart?
what exactly did you do?

Amount of MO?
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 1:17 am
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Originally Posted by lumangoy
what exactly did you do?

Amount of MO?
It was an MO for $999.12 using two $500 MCGC debit cards. I told the CSR that I wanted to purchase a MO for that amount and that I would be using two debit cards with $500 limits. I also instructed them to let me swipe the card before they finalized the amount. The CSR obliged, I swiped, no screen option came up giving me the option to choose debit. Transaction was declined.

She was gracious enough to let me try a secod time. This time I pressed the cancel button after swiping in hopes that would bring up the screen with the option to choose debit, but it did not. And once again, the transaction was declined.

I've never had a problem when using VGCs.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by pj77
It was an MO for $999.12 using two $500 MCGC debit cards. I told the CSR that I wanted to purchase a MO for that amount and that I would be using two debit cards with $500 limits. I also instructed them to let me swipe the card before they finalized the amount. The CSR obliged, I swiped, no screen option came up giving me the option to choose debit. Transaction was declined.

She was gracious enough to let me try a secod time. This time I pressed the cancel button after swiping in hopes that would bring up the screen with the option to choose debit, but it did not. And once again, the transaction was declined.

I've never had a problem when using VGCs.
A lot people say MCGC is great or better than VGC with the auto drain....
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by pj77
It was an MO for $999.12 using two $500 MCGC debit cards. I told the CSR that I wanted to purchase a MO for that amount and that I would be using two debit cards with $500 limits. I also instructed them to let me swipe the card before they finalized the amount. The CSR obliged, I swiped, no screen option came up giving me the option to choose debit. Transaction was declined.

She was gracious enough to let me try a secod time. This time I pressed the cancel button after swiping in hopes that would bring up the screen with the option to choose debit, but it did not. And once again, the transaction was declined.

I've never had a problem when using VGCs.
Had this problem myself had the same results at 2 different stores. It was the old pad where you swipe the card sideways. You have to hope the Wally has the newer pad where you swipe the card face up and the screen is alot larger. Problem is places have both and only using the older pad
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by RedSun
A lot people say MCGC is great or better than VGC with the auto drain....
I've never heard that. Most shy away from MCs for many reasons.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by danpeake
I've never heard that. Most shy away from MCs for many reasons.
Read the thread on GC.com. Some may use the GCs to buy MO.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by pj77
It was an MO for $999.12 using two $500 MCGC debit cards. I told the CSR that I wanted to purchase a MO for that amount and that I would be using two debit cards with $500 limits. I also instructed them to let me swipe the card before they finalized the amount. The CSR obliged, I swiped, no screen option came up giving me the option to choose debit. Transaction was declined.
Do you have any of the Serve cards or 1VIP? If you do, and you can't buy MOs with your MCGCs, try loading it to 1VIP or Serve. IME, there were times I didn't have to do the trick after confirming amount of load, I just swiped my card and saw authorization on the screen followed by printing of receipt. I've read the same thing happened at random to a lot of people but they were also not able to buy MOs with their MCGCs from GCC. I noticed the no PIN required when loading MCGCs happened only at select WMsuper and I had to do trial runs to find out which store.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by barrytuneup
agree!!! BTW doing 300.00 or 200.00 VGC via Staples even with Ink is not a good return after fees. Do you possess Old amex blue cash or the new amex gold card?. Even the Disc 3% for 1 year miles card is better then Ink at Staples. But when Staples has a deal..like this week..its a no brainer.
We get 5X for our old Ink Visa cards. 5X = ~$6.30/1,000 points, including MO and card fees. I keep hoping Staples will offer a $500 card.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 8:38 am
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8k limit

Anybody able to confirm if the 8k daily limit is per calendar day or per revolving 24hrs? Ran into another mser at wmt yesterday standing around staring at his watch waiting for 24hr to be up because he was still maxed out from the day before. He said it's 24hrs from the timestamps on the receipt. I don't do enough volume to confirm but fyi.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 9:00 am
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Originally Posted by trossi
Anybody able to confirm if the 8k daily limit is per calendar day or per revolving 24hrs? Ran into another mser at wmt yesterday standing around staring at his watch waiting for 24hr to be up because he was still maxed out from the day before. He said it's 24hrs from the timestamps on the receipt. I don't do enough volume to confirm but fyi.
Revolving 24 hours
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by trossi
Anybody able to confirm if the 8k daily limit is per calendar day or per revolving 24hrs? Ran into another mser at wmt yesterday standing around staring at his watch waiting for 24hr to be up because he was still maxed out from the day before. He said it's 24hrs from the timestamps on the receipt. I don't do enough volume to confirm but fyi.
What watch does he get?
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by trossi
Anybody able to confirm if the 8k daily limit is per calendar day or per revolving 24hrs? Ran into another mser at wmt yesterday standing around staring at his watch waiting for 24hr to be up because he was still maxed out from the day before. He said it's 24hrs from the timestamps on the receipt. I don't do enough volume to confirm but fyi.
Rolling 24 hours. I just hit the limit this morning. A new Rep wouldn't let me change the amount entered, I was about 5 min to early. I went to another WM and everything was good.
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Old Nov 14, 2018, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by trossi
Anybody able to confirm if the 8k daily limit is per calendar day or per revolving 24hrs? Ran into another mser at wmt yesterday standing around staring at his watch waiting for 24hr to be up because he was still maxed out from the day before. He said it's 24hrs from the timestamps on the receipt. I don't do enough volume to confirm but fyi.
24-hour period.
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