Simon Mall Gift Cards(2017-2018)

    Hide Wikipost
Old Sep 21, 18, 6:59 am   -   Wikipost
Please read: This is a community-maintained wiki post containing the most important information from this thread. You may edit the Wiki once you have been on FT for 90 days and have made 90 posts.
 
Last edit by: Travelz
Wiki Link
This is a new thread for 2017. The previous discussion can be found here.

READ the posts in this thread before asking questions. Many have already been answered.


10k per day limit including fees - must fill out a form (use cards as a budget tool or whatever you want to put)
Check the Simon website for locations.
VGC issued by meta for 3.95 - Count your cards before you leave the mall
When ordering online, Simon uses GCM.
Print Wikipost

Old Sep 12, 18, 8:30 pm
  #826  
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 429
Originally Posted by asot550 View Post
Does it matter if you can't MS them?
I heard that you can MS them and I think people divert from the truth on that one.
Travelz is offline  
Old Sep 12, 18, 11:44 pm
  #827  
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 130
Originally Posted by Travelz View Post
I heard that you can MS them and I think people divert from the truth on that one.
I signed up last year, and there was no $1k VGC, only AGC.
randomdude is offline  
Old Sep 20, 18, 6:54 pm
  #828  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 468
Originally Posted by hi55us View Post
Looking to hit the Delta MQD Waiver, guessing the spend at Simon won't count. Anyone have any luck? Probably going to go with Giftcard Mall now that the portals are live.
DPs say simon is a major ymmv for welcome spend
ChuckMango is offline  
Old Sep 20, 18, 7:09 pm
  #829  
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Atlanta, GA
Programs: AA PLT, AS 75K, DL DM, HY Globalist, HH Diamond, MC/RZ/SW Platinum, AB/UA Silver, WN CP
Posts: 1,120
Originally Posted by hi55us View Post
Looking to hit the Delta MQD Waiver, guessing the spend at Simon won't count. Anyone have any luck? Probably going to go with Giftcard Mall now that the portals are live.
Simon spend counts towards the thresholds on DL Reserve and Plat but not the MQD waiver.
Carl is offline  
Old Sep 22, 18, 7:12 am
  #830  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Colorado
Programs: Alaska, Shell VC, Wyndham VC, Starwood, RCI, II--I bought it on eBay!
Posts: 158
Originally Posted by asot550 View Post
Does it matter if you can't MS them?
Why do you say you can't MS those $1,000 cards? What is the problem with buying/ liquidating via a credit card? We have owned a business for 35 years and have a Simon Mall opening in our hometown this upcoming Thursday. I am so excited to be able to stop in and buy cards, and I am hoping to build a rapport with customer service. I was going to register our business to get the $1,000 cards. Think of how much easier those would be to get money orders with just one swipe!

I have been buying online for a long time, about two years, and it's been easy for me to buy the Simon Mall VGC's. My problem is always the various employees at Walmart who are some power trips and make up their own rules. I went to the same one for years and suddenly a young woman tells me two days ago that I can only swipe two cards and need to make up the rest of the money order in cash.

I had another older woman (Adrienne) tell me at another Walmart that my husband and I can only get one money order between us. I told the woman to write down the policy and give it to me next time I come in because I am tired of her telling me that. I know everyone here says to move on, if one store doesn't cooperate. The thing with her is, she is the only one in the store that frowns upon this hobby. She was going to go and search for a manager to make sure I know the policy. I just walked out. Now that Walmart has been allowing each of us to buy two money orders for $999.12 each, but Adrienne tends to not even be there.. That is an amazing change..

I live in a suburb north of Denver, very close to a few more rural Walmart locations. But altogether, within 15 miles of my house, we have at least 8 Walmart locations to spread our gift cards around.
cheaptimesharetraveler is offline  
Old Sep 22, 18, 7:59 am
  #831  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,699
Originally Posted by cheaptimesharetraveler View Post
Why do you say you can't MS those $1,000 cards? What is the problem with buying/ liquidating via a credit card? We have owned a business for 35 years and have a Simon Mall opening in our hometown this upcoming Thursday. I am so excited to be able to stop in and buy cards, and I am hoping to build a rapport with customer service. I was going to register our business to get the $1,000 cards. Think of how much easier those would be to get money orders with just one swipe!
It has been discussed in the past (bloggers even tried) that Sim0n is watching how those $1K corporate GCs are spent. Many with a real business and "business" registered and drained $1K in one swipe, but it didn't take long before they got shut down. If it was THAT easy to use a real business as a front to buy $1K VGCs even if Sim raised the fees on these, I am sure many would've done this. If policies have changed recently, good luck and more power to your MS activities.
Mamibear is offline  
Old Sep 22, 18, 8:01 am
  #832  
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,831
Originally Posted by cheaptimesharetraveler View Post
Why do you say you can't MS those $1,000 cards?
Have you read the entire thread?

If you have not, I suggest you do.
lumangoy is offline  
Old Sep 22, 18, 8:03 am
  #833  
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,831
this v v
Originally Posted by Mamibear View Post
It has been discussed in the past (bloggers even tried) that Sim0n is watching how those $1K corporate GCs are spent. Many with a real business and "business" registered and drained $1K in one swipe, but it didn't take long before they got shut down. If it was THAT easy to use a real business as a front to buy $1K VGCs even if Sim raised the fees on these, I am sure many would've done this. If policies have changed recently, good luck and more power to your MS activities.
lumangoy is offline  
Old Sep 28, 18, 9:21 pm
  #834  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 28
Hello all. I've been going to Simon for years. There is only one other local whale that I have ran into on occasion. He is running a lot of $1000 VGCs. A friendly cashier at WM told me this, but I didn't really believe her. I saw him in front of me at WM finally, and sure enough he was doing $1k per swipe. I have chatted with him once about the game when our paths crossed at Simon, but I considered it poor form to ask him directly about the $1ks. In interest of doing my own research, I read this entire thread and the consensus seems to be that $1k VGCs through a corporate account are on lockdown, assuming you can even get approved in the first place. Am I correct in thinking his $1ks are through Simon corporate? Do other $1ks even exist? How is he circumventing the no MS on corporate $1ks rule?
anonymous99 is offline  
Old Sep 28, 18, 9:48 pm
  #835  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,699
Originally Posted by anonymous99 View Post
Hello all. I've been going to Simon for years. There is only one other local whale that I have ran into on occasion. He is running a lot of $1000 VGCs. A friendly cashier at WM told me this, but I didn't really believe her. I saw him in front of me at WM finally, and sure enough he was doing $1k per swipe. I have chatted with him once about the game when our paths crossed at Simon, but I considered it poor form to ask him directly about the $1ks. In interest of doing my own research, I read this entire thread and the consensus seems to be that $1k VGCs through a corporate account are on lockdown, assuming you can even get approved in the first place. Am I correct in thinking his $1ks are through Simon corporate? Do other $1ks even exist? How is he circumventing the no MS on corporate $1ks rule?
Anything is possible but from slack app discussions I've read those who have recently tried have been shutdown a month or so after getting approved for a corporate account. These were MSers who drained the $1K GCs in one swipe and obviously Sim0n didn't like it. I'm just wondering how come they are well aware of "gamer's activities" and how those $500s are drained and have tolerated this, but when it comes to corporate VGCs, they are non tolerant of "abuse"?
Travelz and anonymous99 like this.
Mamibear is offline  
Old Sep 28, 18, 9:49 pm
  #836  
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 429
Originally Posted by anonymous99 View Post
Do other $1ks even exist?
Some banks offer 1Ks to business customers is what I have learned.
anonymous99 likes this.
Travelz is offline  
Old Sep 28, 18, 10:08 pm
  #837  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PHL (kinda, no airport is really close)
Programs: AA Exp (2020 is first and last year). Enterprise Platinum woo-hoo!
Posts: 3,291
It's pretty well established that Simon doesn't allow corporate accounts for MSers. Many people, myself included, have gotten corporate accounts and had them closed in short order. I have a legitimate business, it's in Dun and Bradstreet and has been open for 25 years. But they only allow those for actual corporate purposes, say like giving them to employees as a Thanksgiving or Christmas bonus, or to customers. No one has reported being shut down for personal cards after having the corporate account shut down.

I think I speak for everyone when I say that it's so much nicer doing business with SM, since their policies are consistent, the CSR's are very well trained in friendliness, and the whole operation is MS-friendly. Compared to a certain other unnamed business who might as well change their name to "YMMV."
redtop43 is offline  
Old Sep 29, 18, 11:02 pm
  #838  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 28,159
Originally Posted by Mamibear View Post
Anything is possible but from slack app discussions I've read those who have recently tried have been shutdown a month or so after getting approved for a corporate account. These were MSers who drained the $1K GCs in one swipe and obviously Sim0n didn't like it. I'm just wondering how come they are well aware of "gamer's activities" and how those $500s are drained and have tolerated this, but when it comes to corporate VGCs, they are non tolerant of "abuse"?
It could be due to compliance requirement from the AML laws. That is why you always write down personal use on the form that Simon requires.
Most likely if a "corporation" purchases GCs then immediately drain it into cash-like form would change the business nature of the "corporation" by the virtual action, to some businesses that are subject to more regulation. And the supplier of the gift card, in this case, Simon Mall, is required to "know" their corporate customers of their businesses before they approve such accounts.
It is really no different in essence why Chase does not let you deposit cash to other people's accounts but your own, with ID proof. Just an example. All these are to satisfy the AML law requirements on compliance.
Happy is offline  
Old Sep 30, 18, 5:17 pm
  #839  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 275
starting Oct 1- Oct 31 the fee for 500.00 vgc is 2.95. Will this be true for mail orders?. Dont have Simon near me and have been buying via mail. Guess Ill find out tomorow.
barrytuneup is offline  
Old Oct 1, 18, 9:31 am
  #840  
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Programs: UR, Hilton, AA, Delta, SPG/Marriott
Posts: 9
Originally Posted by barrytuneup View Post
starting Oct 1- Oct 31 the fee for 500.00 vgc is 2.95. Will this be true for mail orders?. Dont have Simon near me and have been buying via mail. Guess Ill find out tomorow.
Just tried this morning and it's coming up at the standard pricing.
cflchurn is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search Engine: