Huh. I guess I never move things into "trash". In a world of practically unlimited storage and a decent search feature, everything stays in the inbox as read. But I don't want to sidetrack us into our e-mail workflow policies. I am enjoying CSI: RedBird too much for that!

OP - Your credibility just went negative.

don't be dumb now.

Im sure OP is reeealll worried about that.

OP doesn't care and doesn't want to be a serious part of FT. I echo some of the above posts. Can mods take action please?

OP has done this before, can't remember if it was on OBC or AP (back when it was alive) but he posted some type of inflammatory FALSE information back then too. Ignore him.

If you think the original post is a hoax, click the "!" button on the original post and report it. Be ready to justify your accusation. No point in saying "mods please take action" in a post since mods can't read every post.

Personally I can't make up my mind. The biggest problem I see is that many heavy MS'ers are FT users and there has been no flood of confirming reports.

Stop Bumping this Thread

This OP wants attention, so stop giving it.

DO NOT POST BELOW THIS MESSAGE!!!!

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DANGER

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My recommendation is to NOT merge this thread with the original thread, as it currently has a lot of posts but will eventually fade. Only selective posts from this thread should go into the main Redbird thread, and there's been enough crossposting that even that's probably not necessary.


Is it real? Is it fake? Does it matter? The only change in behavior that I'm going to make is that I'll make some small purchases at Target using my RB. Probably low margin stuff because with the 5% discount, the particular consumable that I'll be buying is cheaper than I could find elsewhere.


1. I did some digging around the internets (love that word - and yes I know that you don't add an 's') and found a bit of stuff on Dansdeals. Take it for what it's worth. Aj3042 from Dansdeals posted that 2 of his RBs got shut down more than a week ago. Here are the screenshots he posted:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.ph...ch=15137;image
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.ph...ch=15139;image

Note that in the second image, it mentions Section 15E. There's no section 15E of the Redbird agreement. However, Serve's Section 15E looks identical to Section 15D of RB. https://www.serve.com/legal.html#suspension
Perhaps this is just a screwup by AmEx personnel. And all of the small discrepancies in the closure emails pointed out by others could also be screw-ups by AmEx personnel.
You can find RB's Section 15D here: https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcar...User_Agreement


2. No RB accounts closed? Does anyone really think that RB hasn't closed any accounts? I find that hard to believe.
Are some people who get their RB accounts closed going to post here? Probably.
If you had your RB account closed and you posted that here, only to be called a liar, are you going to continue to respond?


3. Odd/Even deposits.
I make odd deposits to RB in order to keep below Chase's radar.
Do I think that Target looks at certain round numbers? Yes. There are a lot of lazy MSers who can't come up with three numbers that add up to $2.5K other than $1k/$1k/$500. Thank you; you're low hanging fruit for the auditors. Just like the ~11% of the population that uses 1234 for their PIN. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3696560.html

Edit: Wasn't finished; hit the wrong darned button. At least the post wasn't flushed.
As far as making odd numbered deposits and those that think the poor only make even numbered deposits, I know you've never been POOR. As someone who was poor, I made deposits of whatever money I had extra, be it $12.17 or $1.73. EVERY PENNY COUNTED. I didn't stop counting pennies until several years after being commissioned as a military officer (I enlisted in the military, but you taxpayers foolishly sent me to college).
Ever see a gas pump that reads something like $3.22? How much gas was that? How did the person pay for that gas? They probably brought a bunch of change to the gas station attendant to pay for gas. It was all of the money they had. If you've never lived that life, you have no idea that the poor don't care about odd or even amounts of deposits onto a RB. And they'll never deposit $500, $750, or $1000 on a RB at one time.

So I chuckle at all of youse rocket surgeons who think that the poor only deposit money in even amounts. May you one day experience what it's like to deposit $4.68 into your rainy day savings account; preferably when you're living off of social security.

While I don't yet have a full opinion on the truthfulness or otherwise of the email:

When I first posted about my OBC shutdown, and posted the text, there were lots of "detectives" who found out all the reasons why it was a hoax, AMex emails don't look like that, don't use that tone etc. And, initially, not all that many other reports on FT or elsewhere.

And then.... there were lots of shutdowns.

So, far from convinced about the "proofs" that is a hoax. And as for the analysis of the OP history and supporters, to my mind that either is failing to take into account context, or shows (as is rather common here) a lack of humor. The whole store card loading BB, getting stuff at Cracker Barrel etc, were OBVIOUSLY jokes, and not malicious. If this is a hoax, it is not the same kind of thing as those.

So they shut down this person for violating the section in which they describe how they shut down people?

1. The jokes aren't funny.

2. The most pathetic thing is the poor saps who wanna convey "Hey everybody! I was smart enough to know it was a joke." ...by bumping the thread with basically the same joke changed around a little.

3. This is a worldwide forum. People whose native language isn't English aren't gonna understand lotsa jokes -- even ones that are actually funny. They would tend to have no hope of understanding lame jokes.

Clearly point 1 is very much a personal opinion. People participating in those threads (except for the complainers) did find them funny.

And there are a lot of "know-it-all" pompous MSers who have no idea like everyone else here what triggers a fraud alert for RC....

So OP opens a thread about a RedCard shutdown and never returned to make even one follow up comment since? Hmmm. Reality is EVERY type of MS account will always have someone that gets shutdown for one reason or another. RedCard is no exception. It's just that this particular situation seems to be someone yelling fire in a crowded theater where there is no fire.

Put it this way, 1,000 people go to the neighborhood McDonalds every day for a month, order a big mac combo meal and after one month only ONE person got fat. Can we concluded, or fear then that the other 999 will also get fat eating at McDonalds? YMMV folks.

He made two follow up posts on the first page. Some people aren't on FT everyday, as crazy as that may sound.

Deant (a longtime FT poster) already confirmed that his RB was shut down. So why do people continue to insist this was a hoax? Are you calling Deant (a longtime FT poster) a liar?

Yes......

Poorly phrased on your part ... no big deal. Please explain what you're trying to convey.

1) You and everyone else here know what triggers a fraud alert for RC

2) No one knows what triggers a fraud alert for RC.



More important. I didn't discuss fraud alerts for RC. Why are you quoting me when you're posting about RC fraud alerts?

Even more important. Do you understand the difference between a fraud alert and a 'not used as intended' flag? Your post suggests that you do not.

The OP responded to several of my questions in this thread. See post #6, 11, 38. I stopped looking at #38. There may be more.
#6 and 11 are on page 1.

I dont have a Target Redcard, so I have no skin in this game. That said, I don't think this is a hoax.

Why would anyone think that a MS method like this, that is so being so heavily exploited by such large numbers of people (many of who are complete idiots), and that is so well known, would NOT be shut down by those who have to pay the cost of everyone's free trips to Bora Bora?

The large corporations involved may be slow to react, but they are not all complete idiots. At some point, it was inevitable that they would move to stop their bleeding. This game has been running for almost 6 months. It would surprise me if they didn't move to start shutting down the most obvious, most lazy, most abusive participants.

In the next few days we will know better - if more reports of shutdowns come rolling in, or if it all goes Chipotle.

Don't ever apply logic to large companies. It's not worth the pain. I'm merely posting what I found. You're welcome to go to Dansdeals and read the original posts to draw your own conclusions.

None of this is going to change my MS other than making a few small Target purchases on my RB. I'm merely conveying additional information on the subject - no intent to be a 'know it all'; if my posts are incorrectly interpreted in that manner, I have no problem NOT posting any additional information. ... and people wonder why the OP hasn't returned??????

Who pays CC fee
 

When I load RB with CCs, who pays CC fees: Amex or Target?

If it's Amex, Amex cares about CC abuse.
If it's Target, Target cares.

Did you call last week?
 

A question to those who received cancellation email:
When RB loading did not work last week, did you call them?

I wonder if that has triggered a review.

Poorly read and comprehended on your part. Even loads are likely over 90% of all loads, and you're not a "big deal" because you use odd loads.

Seems a reminder that comments on moderation are not permitted as per FT Rules and those doing so may find they've earned a holiday from this forum for enough violations.

Rather than taking the time to post in the thread all members have to do to bring a post or thread to moderation attention is use the 'Report Bad Post' icon which is the little triangle in the lower left of each and every post on FT. Moderators will review reported posts and/or thread and act if necessary.

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