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Old Jan 25, 2015, 12:41 am
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American Express® is discontinuing the American Express for Target Prepaid Card program on March 21, 2016.

***Attention*** If you are new to the forum and thinking about AFT loads to accomodate your bonus or rewards spend, please be advised this method has taken a major hit effective first week of May, 2015, as mentioned in latter posts on this thread.****

This thread is a continuation of http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...ities-208.html

please be aware the Target breach cards are currently on the black market, as always be aware of activity on all accounts

Purchase in store. Each store seems to have just one lane that has them on display (unlike the AMEX GC which are at most lanes). Package is larger than other gift cards, silver and red.

Not available in all states. Search here for possible locations

Note: Unlike AMEX's restriction on BB/Serve/Redbird where one person can only hold one of those, you can have an AFT (2, actually) while holding a BB, Serve, or Redbird

Need DL to purchase.
Max 1 purchase per ss# per day--this means one person can actually have 2 AFT cards, which is why there is a $5000 total limit for 2 cards (see below).
Max initial load $500 + $3 load fee.

May reload temp card as soon as verification of identity is complete, may take 48 hours. You can use an ATM with a temp card as soon as you're able to view your temp card PIN online. If you're unable to view your PIN online, you won't be able to use an ATM until you have the permanent card, which takes about two weeks.

Many stores now limit reloading to the service desk, and no longer at cashiers. The card must be swiped at a cash terminal to reload, not scanned! Ask cashiers to try if they don't seem to recognize the card. Ask if loading at service desk is a policy, it might just be a knee-jerk response from cashiers that don't know about the card. I have been told that a few times, "You need to go to the Service Desk," it has never been true. Say please and thank you.

Limits & Fees
Loading
Codes as purchase on all cards.
Load fee $3
Max $1000 per card in 24 hour period.
Max $5000 total for both cards per 28 day rolling period.
May load any card *until* balance is $2500 for 28 day period (not *up to*)

System will allow a $1000 load on a card with a $2000 balance so long as you are under $5000 for all cards over 28 day period. See below for optimal load sequence, $15/$5k a month after 1st month and $15k in 65 days for new cards.

Unload via ATM
Max $400/card/day (resets 12am PST)
First ATM w/d per month per card is free, based on 1st of the month (not rolling)+ any ATM owner fee.
Additional ATM w/d fee $3 + ATM fee
Note that unlike Amex RB/BB, AFT is NOT in AllPoint network, thus NO surcharge-free ATM generally.

When asked 'from account' choose 'checking.'

Possibly helpful link (Surcharge Free ATMs):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...-fee-atms.html

Unload by purchases
No fee. No cash back.

Additional information

Optimal load pattern for least number of $3 fees after first $500 load is $3k/$2k.
New accounts can load $15k in 65 days. 4 trips in a week for new cards, 3 in a week once a month after that.

Load always means load $1000. 28 day load total in parenthesis. 'Dropped' means that load is past the 28 day mark.

Day 1: Purchase card #1, load $500
Day 3: Purchase card #2, load $500; Load card #1 ($1500)
Day 5: load card #1 ($2500); load card #2 ($1500)
Day 7: load card #2 ($2500)
*********************************wait************
Day 29: ($2000)($2500) day 1 dropped
Day 31: ($1000)($2000) day 3 dropped
Day 32: load card #1 ($2000) ; load card #2 ($3000)
Day 33: ($1000)($2000) day 5 dropped
Day 34: load card #1 ($2000); load card #2 ($3000)
Day 35: ($2000) ($2000) day 7 dropped
Day 36: load card #1 ($3000), ($2000)
*********************************wait************
Day 61: load both cards, day 32 dropped
Day 63: load both cards
Day 65: load one card.

Repeat Loads waiting 29 days between loads, if you loaded both cards 29 days ago load both now, if you loaded one card, load one now. So next load date is 61+29= Day 90

FAQ

Q: Can I load with Visa/MC/Amex Gift Cards?
A: Visa and MC Gift cards with a PIN can be used. Amex gift cards no longer work.

Q: How about Target gift cards?
A: The register prompts not to allow Target gift cards. They may not be hard coded, though.

Q: Will I get 5% off if I load with a Target Red card?
A: No. Sorry, I wish.

Q: Can I load multiple cards in one transaction?
A: No. This died February 4, 2015 or shortly before.

Q:Is there a max number of payment swipes?
A: Yes. Maximum swipes for split payments is 7, though other users have reported being able to swipe at least 10 gift cards for payment without problems.

Q: What are the lowest possible fees with a fee-free ATM available?
A: For 2 cards, each loaded with $2.5K each over 2 months ($10K in total), you would pay $30 in loading fees (10 load fees of $3 each) and $63 in ATM fees (25 total withdrawals, with 1 free withdrawal per card each month, resulting in 21 ATM fees of $3 each).

Q: Where is my permanent card? I did not receive my permanent card. How do I receive my permanent card?
A: You do not need to register the temporary card online after purchase or create the online account to receive your permanent card. You should have received your permanent card within 7 days. Your temporary card will stop working after 30 days.

If you have not received your card, your application may have been declined. The personal information you registered may be incorrect, or Amex could not verify your identity.

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Official fund loading from T&C

You may load funds to your Cards using your Funding Source until the Available Funds on any Card purchased by you equals $2,500 and on all card purchased by you equals $5,000... Not more than $1,000 may be loaded to any Card purchased by you in a 24 hour period using your Funding Source, not more than $5,000 may be loaded to all Cards purchased by you in any 28-day period using your Funding Source.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE IF YOU LOADED YOUR PREPAID CARD AT TARGET DURING THE CHRISTMAS SECURITY BREACH: It is important to have AMEX reissue your cards (just phone the number on the card and ask for a new card). Thieves have the numbers and pins and can drain your account at any time. AMEX does not appear to be using software to block suspicious activity, so they can drain it all. If you loaded your prepaid card at Target between November 27 and December 15, 2013, you are at significant risk of having your money stolen (several reported cases in April and May).
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Old Apr 15, 2015, 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by danielv22
Thanks for the info.

I work in downtown DC so I have a lot of bank options anyway, but not sure how I'll go about trying to do Barclays or AmEx.
Is the atm in downtown as well? Would you mind PMing or posting the name/location? Have yet to find one.
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Old Apr 15, 2015, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by jackiesyu
Anyone use Mint to track this card? It had stopped working for me for 4 days...Just wonder other's experience? Thanks!
Yea. I assume that they are having issues connecting to Amex GC. Anyone put in a ticket yet? Otherwise they won't know.
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Old Apr 15, 2015, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Yea. I assume that they are having issues connecting to Amex GC. Anyone put in a ticket yet? Otherwise they won't know.
Can you also connect this in mint bills? I can see only amex prepaid available there
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Old Apr 15, 2015, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by techoin
Can you also connect this in mint bills? I can see only amex prepaid available there
You use "American Express Gift Card"
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Old Apr 15, 2015, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by javalinar
Where can you pick up AMEX for Target in the Bay Area? Couldn't find it in my local Target store (Mountain View)
I bought my two cards at follow Target store in last December.

2610 Bishop Dr, San Ramon, CA 94583-2338

And I have seen AFT card at follow store too.

1057 Eastshore Hwy, Albany, CA 94710-1011
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Old Apr 15, 2015, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by javalinar
Where can you pick up AMEX for Target in the Bay Area? Couldn't find it in my local Target store (Mountain View)
North 1st Street exit , on 237. Just go to the first cash counter ( no one would be there ) you see all the gift cards hanging and these are hidden on the first row top. Pick up and go to guest services to activate the same . You can activate only one and after three days you can pick up another one and activate
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Old Apr 15, 2015, 8:49 pm
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Well, this was funny.

The young CS guy ran to T security officers this evening to check if I was allowed to load $1000 to my AFT cards (3 this evening).

I felt bad for him, honestly. Hopeless.

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Old Apr 20, 2015, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by javalinar
Where can you pick up AMEX for Target in the Bay Area? Couldn't find it in my local Target store (Mountain View)
They are there, but very few and kind of hidden in the aisle checkout counters at the far end from the express counter. I had to walk each counter to find it (during slow hours).
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Old Apr 20, 2015, 9:24 am
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They have plenty of AFT cards at the Colma, CA stores near SFO.
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Old Apr 20, 2015, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by jaguar
They have plenty of AFT cards at the Colma, CA stores near SFO.
Lot of AFT cards at Dublin store
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Old Apr 22, 2015, 3:08 pm
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Any one aware of problems loading credit cards from US bank to American Express for Target. Kept getting a denied redbox when tryed to load Am Ex for Target for first 800, then 400 next day. Called US bank and they said it should be fine, but I cannot get it to work. It is a new card, but I talked with fraud alert 2X about it. Card is in spouse's name, not sure if that is causing problems.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 10:52 am
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I haven't used my card in a while, maybe over a year, and I get this message when I log in. Seems similar to the message I got when I first bought the card. Status shows active. Has anyone else seen this?

THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING THE AMERICAN EXPRESS FOR TARGET CARD.

Once your personal information has been verified, you can:
Use your 4 digit PIN to withdraw cash from ATMs in the US
Load funds on your Card
Sign up for alerts
Your American Express for Target Card can be used at millions of places where American Express Cards are accepted including stores, restaurants and online.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by Superorb
I haven't used my card in a while, maybe over a year, and I get this message when I log in. Seems similar to the message I got when I first bought the card. Status shows active. Has anyone else seen this?

THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING THE AMERICAN EXPRESS FOR TARGET CARD.

Once your personal information has been verified, you can:
Use your 4 digit PIN to withdraw cash from ATMs in the US
Load funds on your Card
Sign up for alerts
Your American Express for Target Card can be used at millions of places where American Express Cards are accepted including stores, restaurants and online.
I've been seeing this too ever since my information did get verified last month. Got my perm cards and still there. I don't think much about it anymore.
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by amazingjames
I've been seeing this too ever since my information did get verified last month. Got my perm cards and still there. I don't think much about it anymore.
Have you been able to load at Target and unload at ATMs?
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Old Apr 23, 2015, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Superorb
Have you been able to load at Target and unload at ATMs?
Oh yes, no problems :-)
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