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Old Jan 25, 2015, 12:41 am
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American Express® is discontinuing the American Express for Target Prepaid Card program on March 21, 2016.

***Attention*** If you are new to the forum and thinking about AFT loads to accomodate your bonus or rewards spend, please be advised this method has taken a major hit effective first week of May, 2015, as mentioned in latter posts on this thread.****

This thread is a continuation of http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...ities-208.html

please be aware the Target breach cards are currently on the black market, as always be aware of activity on all accounts

Purchase in store. Each store seems to have just one lane that has them on display (unlike the AMEX GC which are at most lanes). Package is larger than other gift cards, silver and red.

Not available in all states. Search here for possible locations

Note: Unlike AMEX's restriction on BB/Serve/Redbird where one person can only hold one of those, you can have an AFT (2, actually) while holding a BB, Serve, or Redbird

Need DL to purchase.
Max 1 purchase per ss# per day--this means one person can actually have 2 AFT cards, which is why there is a $5000 total limit for 2 cards (see below).
Max initial load $500 + $3 load fee.

May reload temp card as soon as verification of identity is complete, may take 48 hours. You can use an ATM with a temp card as soon as you're able to view your temp card PIN online. If you're unable to view your PIN online, you won't be able to use an ATM until you have the permanent card, which takes about two weeks.

Many stores now limit reloading to the service desk, and no longer at cashiers. The card must be swiped at a cash terminal to reload, not scanned! Ask cashiers to try if they don't seem to recognize the card. Ask if loading at service desk is a policy, it might just be a knee-jerk response from cashiers that don't know about the card. I have been told that a few times, "You need to go to the Service Desk," it has never been true. Say please and thank you.

Limits & Fees
Loading
Codes as purchase on all cards.
Load fee $3
Max $1000 per card in 24 hour period.
Max $5000 total for both cards per 28 day rolling period.
May load any card *until* balance is $2500 for 28 day period (not *up to*)

System will allow a $1000 load on a card with a $2000 balance so long as you are under $5000 for all cards over 28 day period. See below for optimal load sequence, $15/$5k a month after 1st month and $15k in 65 days for new cards.

Unload via ATM
Max $400/card/day (resets 12am PST)
First ATM w/d per month per card is free, based on 1st of the month (not rolling)+ any ATM owner fee.
Additional ATM w/d fee $3 + ATM fee
Note that unlike Amex RB/BB, AFT is NOT in AllPoint network, thus NO surcharge-free ATM generally.

When asked 'from account' choose 'checking.'

Possibly helpful link (Surcharge Free ATMs):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...-fee-atms.html

Unload by purchases
No fee. No cash back.

Additional information

Optimal load pattern for least number of $3 fees after first $500 load is $3k/$2k.
New accounts can load $15k in 65 days. 4 trips in a week for new cards, 3 in a week once a month after that.

Load always means load $1000. 28 day load total in parenthesis. 'Dropped' means that load is past the 28 day mark.

Day 1: Purchase card #1, load $500
Day 3: Purchase card #2, load $500; Load card #1 ($1500)
Day 5: load card #1 ($2500); load card #2 ($1500)
Day 7: load card #2 ($2500)
*********************************wait************
Day 29: ($2000)($2500) day 1 dropped
Day 31: ($1000)($2000) day 3 dropped
Day 32: load card #1 ($2000) ; load card #2 ($3000)
Day 33: ($1000)($2000) day 5 dropped
Day 34: load card #1 ($2000); load card #2 ($3000)
Day 35: ($2000) ($2000) day 7 dropped
Day 36: load card #1 ($3000), ($2000)
*********************************wait************
Day 61: load both cards, day 32 dropped
Day 63: load both cards
Day 65: load one card.

Repeat Loads waiting 29 days between loads, if you loaded both cards 29 days ago load both now, if you loaded one card, load one now. So next load date is 61+29= Day 90

FAQ

Q: Can I load with Visa/MC/Amex Gift Cards?
A: Visa and MC Gift cards with a PIN can be used. Amex gift cards no longer work.

Q: How about Target gift cards?
A: The register prompts not to allow Target gift cards. They may not be hard coded, though.

Q: Will I get 5% off if I load with a Target Red card?
A: No. Sorry, I wish.

Q: Can I load multiple cards in one transaction?
A: No. This died February 4, 2015 or shortly before.

Q:Is there a max number of payment swipes?
A: Yes. Maximum swipes for split payments is 7, though other users have reported being able to swipe at least 10 gift cards for payment without problems.

Q: What are the lowest possible fees with a fee-free ATM available?
A: For 2 cards, each loaded with $2.5K each over 2 months ($10K in total), you would pay $30 in loading fees (10 load fees of $3 each) and $63 in ATM fees (25 total withdrawals, with 1 free withdrawal per card each month, resulting in 21 ATM fees of $3 each).

Q: Where is my permanent card? I did not receive my permanent card. How do I receive my permanent card?
A: You do not need to register the temporary card online after purchase or create the online account to receive your permanent card. You should have received your permanent card within 7 days. Your temporary card will stop working after 30 days.

If you have not received your card, your application may have been declined. The personal information you registered may be incorrect, or Amex could not verify your identity.

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Official fund loading from T&C

You may load funds to your Cards using your Funding Source until the Available Funds on any Card purchased by you equals $2,500 and on all card purchased by you equals $5,000... Not more than $1,000 may be loaded to any Card purchased by you in a 24 hour period using your Funding Source, not more than $5,000 may be loaded to all Cards purchased by you in any 28-day period using your Funding Source.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE IF YOU LOADED YOUR PREPAID CARD AT TARGET DURING THE CHRISTMAS SECURITY BREACH: It is important to have AMEX reissue your cards (just phone the number on the card and ask for a new card). Thieves have the numbers and pins and can drain your account at any time. AMEX does not appear to be using software to block suspicious activity, so they can drain it all. If you loaded your prepaid card at Target between November 27 and December 15, 2013, you are at significant risk of having your money stolen (several reported cases in April and May).
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Old Jul 5, 2015, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by tontod
Oh ok, you seemed knowledgeable about the area. I will, thanks. What kind of inventory checker do you have?

I looked at all the checkout lanes, didnt see it.
http://brickseek.com/target-inventory-checker
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Old Jul 6, 2015, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
You don't need to switch to Serve or Bluebird. You can keep it and also open a Bluebird (or Serve).
I have Bluebird too. Just wondering if I'm missing a reason to keep AFT. I'm not in this game for heavy MS.
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Old Jul 6, 2015, 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by linsj
I have Bluebird too. Just wondering if I'm missing a reason to keep AFT. I'm not in this game for heavy MS.
Keep it in your sock drawer. Never know when it can be useful again. Otherwise, there's more effective ways of MS.
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Old Jul 6, 2015, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
Has anyone bought custom message business gift cards this morning? Everytime I click the link for customer message business offers, I get this error:

Error 500: Filter [SecurityFilter]: filter is unavailable.

I've gotten it with two different browsers. I've bought many times in the past and never seen that.
Did you perhaps intend to post this on the AGC thread?
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Old Jul 6, 2015, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by ttlmmky
Did you perhaps intend to post this on the AGC thread?
Oops! Thanks, I moved my post over there.
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Old Jul 7, 2015, 10:57 pm
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I got a situation that the money from the ATM is less than the money it was charged. I need to file a dispute with my amex target card. I received an email from them, all of codes, without a form. How do you guys solve this problem? Could you share a form for me if without sensitive information so that I can file a dispute with them? Thanks.
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Old Jul 8, 2015, 9:01 am
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Originally Posted by gogofly
I got a situation that the money from the ATM is less than the money it was charged. I need to file a dispute with my amex target card. I received an email from them, all of codes, without a form. How do you guys solve this problem? Could you share a form for me if without sensitive information so that I can file a dispute with them? Thanks.
If the ATM didn't dispense the correct amount then you'll most likely need to contact the operator of the ATM if you have not already done so. There should be contact information on the ATM. They can reconcile the cash dispensed with transaction amounts and resolve this for you. There are some detailed posts in this thread on the subject if more details are needed. Good luck.
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Old Jul 20, 2015, 6:32 pm
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Old Jul 20, 2015, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by tontod
Oh ok, you seemed knowledgeable about the area. I will, thanks. What kind of inventory checker do you have?

I looked at all the checkout lanes, didnt see it.
Target in Plainville had them last October. AFTs are so tied up with Redcard at this point. Policies for each are levied together. And Redcard, with the droves of people using it right now to load OVGC, seems bound to lose any GC loadability soon just like with WM spring/summer 14. Don't know if its worth it to take pains for an AFT right now.
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Old Jul 24, 2015, 11:46 am
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Has anyone used this cart AFT to buy MO anywhere?
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Old Jul 24, 2015, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by somuyk
Has anyone used this cart AFT to buy MO anywhere?
The American Express for Target card is not a debit card and I do not know of anywhere that accepts credit cards for MOs for fees low enough to make it worthwhile.
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Old Jul 24, 2015, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by gogofly
I got a situation that the money from the ATM is less than the money it was charged. I need to file a dispute with my amex target card. I received an email from them, all of codes, without a form. How do you guys solve this problem? Could you share a form for me if without sensitive information so that I can file a dispute with them? Thanks.
That's happened to me twice at Costco ATMs. Just call the 800 number on the back of the AFT and they'll walk you through the process to file a claim.
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Old Jul 25, 2015, 7:51 am
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Has anyone used AFT to buy SMGC?
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Old Jul 25, 2015, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by touristtrap
Has anyone used AFT to buy SMGC?
Wouldn't the load fees for the AFT make this a loss leader?
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Old Jul 25, 2015, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by tyvoodoo
Wouldn't the load fees for the AFT make this a loss leader?
Just curious if it worked before. AGC-VGC-MO would me more efficient way.
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