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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Nov 24, 2015

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Oct 22, 2015, 5:59 pm
      #11101  
     
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    Originally Posted by Willower
    Hasn't the mourning period gone on long enough? Can the mods please put this thread out of its misery?
    Come on! You know that sometime, maybe not next week, or even next month, but soon, Target management are going to say "We made a terrible mistake" and reinstate Redbird, including credit card loads of up to $50K a day, AND give an additional 10% bonus on all loads.
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    Old Oct 22, 2015, 9:17 pm
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    Originally Posted by Happy
    can still get the Old Serve if they can get the Right temp cards.
    I also found them at my local Family Dollar. No fee was charged, despite it being well after the alleged sale period.

    Also, those that are stranded with Vanilla card inventory, just pay the fees to swap them for something easier to cash out. I went to my Safeway and bought a variable and loaded it with $450. Since it was less than $500, no manager override. Plus then I just had to do 2 loads to get my money back in circulation, the $450 off the VGC, and remainder off the Vanilla card. Easy peasy!
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    Old Oct 22, 2015, 9:43 pm
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    Originally Posted by silver6054
    Come on! You know that sometime, maybe not next week, or even next month, but soon, Target management are going to say "We made a terrible mistake" and reinstate Redbird, including credit card loads of up to $50K a day, AND give an additional 10% bonus on all loads.
    Good point. Objection withdrawn!
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    Old Oct 22, 2015, 9:56 pm
      #11104  
     
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    Originally Posted by chrisremo
    Can you load paper IOUs onto Redbird at Target?
    Sure, even a verbal one.

    J/k, prob not. Per its terms, here's what you can load it with (including checks) and the limits for each method: https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcar...s-and-limits-1
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    Old Oct 23, 2015, 4:41 pm
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    If we maxed out our $5,000 with Redbird in early October, then cancelled Redbird and switched to Serve, can we do another $5,000 with Serve this month, or do we have to wait until November?
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    Old Oct 23, 2015, 4:42 pm
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    Originally Posted by Astoriano
    If we maxed out our $5,000 with Redbird in early October, then cancelled Redbird and switched to Serve, can we do another $5,000 with Serve this month, or do we have to wait until November?
    No you can double up
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    Old Oct 23, 2015, 7:36 pm
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    No - Target Risk Management says that this is illegal because it can be used for laundering money. You must load your 2,000 Red Cards with cash only

    Originally Posted by chrisremo
    Can you load paper IOUs onto Redbird at Target?
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    Old Oct 23, 2015, 7:43 pm
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    Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy
    No - Target Risk Management says that this is illegal because it can be used for laundering money. You must load your 2,000 Red Cards with cash only
    Can I load each of the 2,000 with one penny each and then "split tender" to buy a Target gift card from Target, which I then use to reload that Redbird?
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    Old Oct 24, 2015, 8:17 am
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    Originally Posted by chrisremo
    Can I load each of the 2,000 with one penny each and then "split tender" to buy a Target gift card from Target, which I then use to reload that Redbird?
    At most, you'll be able to get a $.07 gift card because the register is limited to 7 swipes per transaction. The rest sounds good, though.
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    Old Oct 24, 2015, 11:34 am
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    Trouble draining funds

    Getting an error , PIN wrong , message when I try to use remaining funds on 3 red birds to bill pay.
    I searched the thread but didn't see this mentioned.
    One card has over a grand on it.

    Problem solved:

    Switched from Safari to Firefox , same problem.
    Changed to new pin, and all is well.

    Last edited by beachmiles; Oct 24, 2015 at 12:01 pm Reason: Problem solved
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    Old Oct 24, 2015, 3:57 pm
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    I just found this out today. Lol. Been traveling.

    Now what to do with $4,000 in Visa Debit Cards...

    Ooof
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    Old Oct 24, 2015, 4:22 pm
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    Originally Posted by lamscott
    I just found this out today. Lol. Been traveling.

    Now what to do with $4,000 in Visa Debit Cards...

    Ooof
    Where were you traveling, Middle Earth?
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    Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:00 pm
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    Prepaid REDcard (Target) 2015

    Hey guys,

    Just tried loading my card for the first time in a few months (was out of the country). I received an error, something about tender not allowed??? I'm in a rush and haven't had the chance to look through the thread for similar problems.

    Has anyone else experienced this? If so could you PM me a solution? I'm quite busy these days and don't have time to read ~700 pages.

    Thanks!
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    Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:02 pm
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    Originally Posted by lakers6902
    Hey guys,

    Just tried loading my card for the first time in a few months (was out of the country). I received an error, something about tender not allowed??? I'm in a rush and haven't had the chance to look through the thread for similar problems.

    Has anyone else experienced this? If so could you PM me a solution? I'm quite busy these days and don't have time to read ~700 pages.

    Thanks!
    Read the first line of the wiki!
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    Old Oct 24, 2015, 10:38 pm
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    Title should include 'Dead'....I'm a fan for 'Deadbird'
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