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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Feb 6, 2015, 8:34 pm
      #1906  
     
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    Originally Posted by mizzou1
    Why are you trying a debit transaction when it is not needed and a credit transaction works?
    When this happened to me, it was about a year ago while loading Serve at WM and using VGC as debit is the only way at WM (they do not allow credit). Now Target on the other hand, running VGC's as credit is definitely easier when you have multiple cards you need to drain.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 6:01 am
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    Out of curiosity, has anyone tried to load $2500 in one swipe since the system changes? Small chance they fixed the "amount too small" bug and we can now load more than $1000 per swipe to REDcard.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 7:54 am
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    Originally Posted by Ritley572
    Out of curiosity, has anyone tried to load $2500 in one swipe since the system changes? Small chance they fixed the "amount too small" bug and we can now load more than $1000 per swipe to REDcard.
    Out of curiosity, have you tried reading the wiki And to answer your question, from the wiki:

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per credit card payment. End of story. You can, however, have multiple CC transactions one after the other so as to load up to $2500 per day. This could in some cases trigger a fraud alert from your CC company.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 8:15 am
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 8:35 am
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    Also on a similar note, Chase Freedom is offering 5x points @ grocery stores this quarter, up to $1500 in spend.

    We definitely made some large transactions at Safeway and then loaded $ that way.

    Here's an interesting data point, though. I had two VERY helpful customer service agents the other day, but they could not get the Amex gift card to load onto my card. I used the amex gift card to buy some mastercard debit cards, and those loaded without issue.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 8:44 am
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    How do you folks answer questions from Target people about accruing points using this system? I just got questioned and responded with that I like to use the card for the 5% discount but I'm sure you could rack up points.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 8:45 am
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    Originally Posted by hungarianhc
    Here's an interesting data point, though. I had two VERY helpful customer service agents the other day, but they could not get the Amex gift card to load onto my card. I used the amex gift card to buy some mastercard debit cards, and those loaded without issue.
    I did $15k in AGC loads Thursday and Friday, $7.5k each day. No issues. I don't even buy the personalized cards.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 9:03 am
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    Originally Posted by PaulMSN
    I just loaded my first $1K successfully. Thanks, everyone, for all the helpful information.

    Added: On my second $1K load at a different store, the cashier asked for my ID and noticed that the name on the ID didn't match the name on the Redcard (my son's name). I just told him it was my son's card and he continued on, but I hope it won't cause problems in the future.
    I had that same thing happen yesterday for the first time at my regular Target. First $1K load with my CC no question. Second load from my DW'a CC, CSR realized the last 4 numbers were different, and asked if I was using a different cc. When I said yes, she said she was told she had to check the names. Of course, the CC card had her name on it. I told her it was my wife's card (true) and that she had asked me to load it for her to save her the trip down to the store (true), but I doubted they were going to go for it, since we don't even have the same last name. The CSR looked over at a manager nearby, who told her to go ahead. They both said it was ok because they knew me, but I'd swear I've never seen either of them before. Just glad I was loading my own RB, and not my family members RB; I'm guessing having three different names between the RB and the two credit cards would not have worked.

    I'm going to have to be careful using the 3rd RB, and only do that with CSRs who are already familiar with me and unlikely to check anything.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 9:05 am
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    Originally Posted by thrillhouse763
    How do you folks answer questions from Target people about accruing points using this system? I just got questioned and responded with that I like to use the card for the 5% discount but I'm sure you could rack up points.
    "You can use it to pay off bills like your rent"
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 9:19 am
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    Originally Posted by thrillhouse763
    How do you folks answer questions from Target people about accruing points using this system? I just got questioned and responded with that I like to use the card for the 5% discount but I'm sure you could rack up points.
    I've never been directly asked, but I have had a few cashiers sort-of hint that they're wondering what I'm doing.

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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 9:35 am
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    Originally Posted by MrBill64
    Out of curiosity, have you tried reading the wiki And to answer your question, from the wiki:

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per credit card payment. End of story. You can, however, have multiple CC transactions one after the other so as to load up to $2500 per day. This could in some cases trigger a fraud alert from your CC company.
    02/02/2015 is when the new 1 swipe per transaction limit was put into effect, nobody had mentioned trying $2500 since then. So even though the wiki said that it didn't mean anything because all they did was update the language that already existed to include the new change. So thanks for your patronizing tone but it wasn't necessary.

    I asked because it didn't appear anyone has tried to load $2500 since 2/2/2015.

    Anyway I just tried just to double check and indeed the amount too small error still exists on any swipe over $1000.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 10:11 am
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    Has anybody checked the Dublin target for RB's lately or found any other Bay Area location that sells RB's?
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 10:22 am
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    Originally Posted by thrillhouse763
    How do you folks answer questions from Target people about accruing points using this system? I just got questioned and responded with that I like to use the card for the 5% discount but I'm sure you could rack up points.
    I tell them that I do all the ordering for my company, which manages multiple locations, and we spend a lot every month.

    That's all true--except Target isn't one of our vendors.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 10:27 am
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    Originally Posted by cuthroat
    Has anybody checked the Dublin target for RB's lately or found any other Bay Area location that sells RB's?
    Recent reports indicate that Dublin has pulled its RBs off the shelf.
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    Old Feb 7, 2015, 10:30 am
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    Originally Posted by Brugge
    I had that same thing happen yesterday for the first time at my regular Target. First $1K load with my CC no question. Second load from my DW'a CC, CSR realized the last 4 numbers were different, and asked if I was using a different cc. When I said yes, she said she was told she had to check the names. Of course, the CC card had her name on it. I told her it was my wife's card (true) and that she had asked me to load it for her to save her the trip down to the store (true), but I doubted they were going to go for it, since we don't even have the same last name.
    Making yourself an authorized user on your wife's card will eliminate that issue.
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