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Old Jan 10, 2015, 8:55 pm
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The previous megathread is here.

Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.


As of April 16, 2015 regular Serve cards will only accept American Express network cards for online credit card loads.
Softcard Serve accounts are apparently grandfathered in the old system and continue to work as before, being able to load Mastercard, Visa, and Discover (see below).


Serve loads count towards minimum spend on AmEx-issued cards, including SPG.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD

Regular Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month [B]
  • Online Credit Card Load (AmEx only) - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Softcard Serve
Softcard has shutdown and there is no longer any way to apply for this version.
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.

OneVip Card: (Mucho gracias, AndrewTheMan)
This card is essentially just like the regular, fee-free, "old" serve. You may reload this card up to $2,500/day; $1,000/transaction at Walmart (not impacted by Blue Bird daily limit change). Have not tested FD or anywhere else. KATE takes this no problems..
You can use this to load the FIDO AMEX up to 1k a month.

Limits for online debit card and credit card loads reset at 9 PM PST/12 AM EST

Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

A few report no problems loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval. One person with a Serve/Softcard account reported being sent to the main Serve number for this process.

https://www.serve.com/help/#add-money-5

Regular Serve Credit Card Loading

Regular Serve can only load from American Express network cards. In addition to those issued directly by American Express, this includes the following:
  • AAA Rewards AmEx
  • Alitalia AmEx
  • Bank of America Accelerated Rewards AmEx
  • Bank of America Asiana Airlines AmEx
  • Bank of Hawaii AmEx Card with MyBankoh Rewards
  • Bloomingdale's AmEx
  • Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select AmEx
  • Citi Dividend AmEx (not obtainable unless specifically requested)
  • Citi Thank You Preferred AmEx (not obtainable unless specifically requested)
  • Dillard's AmEx
  • FNBO AmEx
  • FNBO Graphite AmEx
  • FNBO Platinum AmEx
  • Macy's AmEx
  • Penfed Premium Travel Rewards AmEx
  • SavingStar AmEx
  • Travelocity AmEx
  • US Bank Flexperks AmEx
  • USAA Cash Rewards/Rewards Plus AmEx
  • Wells Fargo Propel World/365 AmEx

Softcard Serve Credit Card Loading

If you are fortunate enough to be grandfathered into a Softcard Serve Account, you can also load other credit cards beside American Express cards. Softcard Serve is not available to new applicants anymore so you'll need to get one of the other Serve options if you don't already have one. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as purchases. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover
  • Wells Fargo (American Express)

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express issued (Counts toward minimum spend -- see post #434) but does not earn points. Example: For the Delta Amex card, Serve counts towards min spend DL miles sign-up bonus, but that spend and subsequent trials of spend on Serve will not earn points. Don't do it, man!

Posts as a cash advance:
The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

A few report being unable to add the Chase IHG MC.

Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.

Switching to Serve
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

Switching from Redbird is presumably similar. See the RedCard thread for more information.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318

Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.

Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement

For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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People with an apartment address can find helpful information quoted in post #7
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Old Apr 6, 2015, 12:07 pm
  #946  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by mh1361
I loaded from an A+ this morning.
To be clear, was this A+ added/switched to the account this morning?
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Old Apr 6, 2015, 12:10 pm
  #947  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Originally Posted by Beetlesauce
What I do is to always use the self-checkout. Usually I buy a soda or gum. Then I walk to cashier manning the self checkout and say I want to load my bluebird. They are always facing you so they rarely see what cards you pull out once they start the process. I do the standard Visa debit Gift Card loads as many others have described (chg pmt, debit, enter pin). Always $500 at a time. If I need to load $1,000 I tell her I'll be loading $500 twice and switch between two gift cards without her seeing it.
I trying to find a previous post describing that Visa Gift Card loads (i.e. chg pmt, debit, enter pin), but I'm not sure how far back to look. Is the wiki method still up to date?
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Old Apr 6, 2015, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Wakinguptooearly
I trying to find a previous post describing that Visa Gift Card loads (i.e. chg pmt, debit, enter pin), but I'm not sure how far back to look. Is the wiki method still up to date?
1. tell cashier you want to load BB/Serve. if cashier doesn't know how, tell her to press 70 + action code;

2. she will be prompted to enter account number so tell her to swipe your BB/Serve card. tell them how much you want to load. if loading with cashier, it has to be at least $20. with Kate, I've loaded lesser amounts to drain VGCs.

3. you will be asked to confirm on your screens terminal if amount is correct. press YES;

4. swipe your VGC or DC. IME, for some Sunnies I buy, it goes right to PIN screen so I just input my PIN. Screen says APPROVED, receipt prints. Done. IF by chance the PIN screen does not come up and you see the yellow CHANGE PAYMENT button blink once after swiping your card, make sure to press that immediately. The other modes of payment screen will come up. Choose ATM/DEBIT and *(hopefully) PIN screen will come up. Input PIN. Approved. Get receipt. Done.

*for whatever reasons, sometimes the PIN screen does not come up even after pressing CHANGE PAYMENT. DO NOT PANIC. Press the CANCEL button and if necessary swipe your VGC or DC again and proceed with other steps in 4. If you notice cashier is getting antsy, and it doesn't work quit trying and move on to another register. You will just waste more time if they call for a CSM so better cancel and thank them for trying to help you. Be positive all the time, it helps a lot.
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Old Apr 6, 2015, 12:58 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2014
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Ahh, there's still hope

My 1 year AoR has ended.

Serve has been good. I sure miss the (50 x $1) / month freebies last year.

Downgraded Chase CSP to Freedom so I can keep the UR points.

I did not know I can still CC load Server online. I will try that as soon as Chase Freedom card arrives.

I cancelled the others: Chase Hyatt, Citi Hilton Honors, and Venture CapOne,.

I forgot a have Citi ThankYou preferred with no activity since I got the bonus points out already. I may try to CC load this to Serve later, but I'll read up to see what's up.
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Old Apr 6, 2015, 4:59 pm
  #950  
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: SF Bay Area
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BofA Alaska CC load to Serve coded as Cash Advance

... also charged $25 fee for $500 load. Yeesh. Date of 4/4 on the transaction.
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Old Apr 6, 2015, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Fanfoot
BofA Alaska CC load to Serve coded as Cash Advance ... also charged $25 fee for $500 load. Yeesh. Date of 4/4 on the transaction.
You should have read the wiki.
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Old Apr 6, 2015, 5:11 pm
  #952  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 27
Does MasterCard GC issued by Us Bank work for loading Serve at WM? I have been using VGC only before
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 8:38 am
  #953  
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: MDT
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Originally Posted by frudd38
To be clear, was this A+ added/switched to the account this morning?
I added it on April 3rd.
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 9:49 am
  #954  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 157
Originally Posted by sanctume
My 1 year AoR has ended.

Serve has been good. I sure miss the (50 x $1) / month freebies last year.

Downgraded Chase CSP to Freedom so I can keep the UR points.

I did not know I can still CC load Server online. I will try that as soon as Chase Freedom card arrives.

I cancelled the others: Chase Hyatt, Citi Hilton Honors, and Venture CapOne,.

I forgot a have Citi ThankYou preferred with no activity since I got the bonus points out already. I may try to CC load this to Serve later, but I'll read up to see what's up.
i made the silly mistake of xfering my UR points from CSP to Freedom before i closed my CSP, i completely forgot that you can't xfer UR points from Freedom to any partners

Now i am sitting on 110k UR in my freedom, recently closed my CSP and Ink cards so i need to sit on UR for about 20more months or get my SO to apply for CSP and transfer to her account...I really needed the UR for Hyatt this summer...oh well!
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 10:20 am
  #955  
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by mh1361
I added it on April 3rd.
The issue didn't start until after that... Moot point in a week anyways.
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 10:52 am
  #956  
 
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Rejected at Walmart today with GC

FYI - had trouble at Walmart today unloading GCs to Serve. Cashier refused to load and sent me to Customer Service. The Service desk staff got very picky and wanted to inspect the card I was using. They specifically asked if I was using a Vanilla card to which I honestly said no as it was a MC GC bought at Kroger. I told them I wanted to do a debit load and they demanded to see the card I was using. It has been some time since I've had trouble so I wasn't prepared to do a juggle with my real debit card. They looked over the counter and saw I had a GC and told me they would not accept it.

Hopefully this is a one off but I'm a little worried there has been some sort of training renewal/warning issued. I'll try a different WM soon.
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 11:11 am
  #957  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Guess I'll keep my serve for at least another month. Just got a PRG and this will help me get the 1000 min spend. Hope it still works like that even if I get no points for the spend itself...
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 6:22 pm
  #958  
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
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anyone have a list of 3rd party amex cards that should continue to work after the deadline?
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by coronalforce
anyone have a list of 3rd party amex cards that should continue to work after the deadline?
Nope...because we don't know what will and will not work officially until April 17th rolls around. Anyone claiming they know what will work is just guessing at this point.
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Old Apr 7, 2015, 6:37 pm
  #960  
 
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For you info, I loaded $500 on Serve from SMGC, no problem.....
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