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Red259 Aug 27, 15 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by skim (Post 25336675)
I am in same boat as you -- ISIS Serve and arrival+ card. I wanted to switch to Chase Sapphire to earn Chase UR points, but decided not to mess with a good thing of easy online charging $1500/month and not wanting to deal with Serve authentication issues(emailing DL, monthly statements,..) !!

I think I get more value out of the arrival+ at 2.2 cents per point (although that will eventually change and I don't know if I will keep the card beyond first year because of the changes). I do love chase URs. I was thinking that there may be some cards out there where you get extra benefits for crossing spend thresholds. The hilton reserve would give a free night at 10k spend, but it seems that would be a cash advance. I will probably switch my arrival to my citi premier card when I get it and use that to meet min spend at least.

michael_v Aug 27, 15 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by Red259 (Post 25337212)
I was thinking that there may be some cards out there where you get extra benefits for crossing spend thresholds.

No extra benefits per se, but I plan to continue to use Ink Plus to meet a possible retention offer spend threshold. In the past, I got 10,000 points (to offset annual fee) with $5,000 spend retention offer on Ink Plus/Bold cards, which I declined, but this time I think I will accept it since it is now much harder to get an Ink card.

Red259 Aug 27, 15 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by michael_v (Post 25337284)
No extra benefits per se, but I plan to continue to use Ink Plus to meet a possible retention offer spend threshold. In the past, I got 10,000 points (to offset annual fee) with $5,000 spend retention offer on Ink Plus/Bold cards, which I declined, but this time I think I will accept it since it is now much harder to get an Ink card.

On my ink bold card they just waived the AF with no spend required. I want to get the ink plus, but I'm thinking it may be difficult to do now with all the changes they made to the bold. I would use serve on the ink card to help meet min spend.

Flyby01 Aug 27, 15 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by Red259 (Post 25337212)
The hilton reserve would give a free night at 10k spend, but it seems that would be a cash advance.

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Red259 Aug 27, 15 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by Flyby01 (Post 25338269)
Not IME as of late.

Really? Have other people had this experience? Its a citi visa which according to the wiki would be a problem.

Flyby01 Aug 27, 15 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by Red259 (Post 25338650)
Really? Have other people had this experience? Its a citi visa which according to the wiki would be a problem.

Sorry. My bad. I thought I was still in the Simon Mall thread. I've deleted my earlier comment.

d.s. knight Aug 28, 15 7:40 am

Read the entire wiki and several pages of posts but just want to verify I haven't missed anything. Have a BB acct, about to convert to a Serve with the goal of helping me meet spending requirement on Amex Delta Skymiles card. As it is not one of the cards specifically mentioned in the wiki, I believe that I will be able to use Serve for meeting spending requirements but will not earn any actual Skymiles for Serve loads. Before I pull the trigger hoping someone could confirm whether that understanding is correct and/or confirm whether they've used Amex Delta Skymiles specifically in this way. Thank you very much for any insight and I apologize if I missed this answer somewhere.

mh1361 Aug 28, 15 8:02 am


Originally Posted by d.s. knight (Post 25341596)
Read the entire wiki and several pages of posts but just want to verify I haven't missed anything. Have a BB acct, about to convert to a Serve with the goal of helping me meet spending requirement on Amex Delta Skymiles card. As it is not one of the cards specifically mentioned in the wiki, I believe that I will be able to use Serve for meeting spending requirements but will not earn any actual Skymiles for Serve loads. Before I pull the trigger hoping someone could confirm whether that understanding is correct and/or confirm whether they've used Amex Delta Skymiles specifically in this way. Thank you very much for any insight and I apologize if I missed this answer somewhere.

Yes you can do use Serve to meet the min spend on your Amex Delta Skymiles card.

djschni Aug 28, 15 9:31 pm

No Option to reload Serve
 
I just activated my serve card this month after switching from Bluebird. Every time I try to load my card at WM, the CSR is kicked out at a little slip prints with the balance.

For clarification, the CSR is definitely pressing action 70, and she told me that the option to reload isn't showing up on her screen and it boots her out of the process. Has anyone had a similar experience and how was it resolved?

Mamibear Aug 29, 15 7:18 am


Originally Posted by djschni (Post 25345198)
I just activated my serve card this month after switching from Bluebird. Every time I try to load my card at WM, the CSR is kicked out at a little slip prints with the balance.

For clarification, the CSR is definitely pressing action 70, and she told me that the option to reload isn't showing up on her screen and it boots her out of the process. Has anyone had a similar experience and how was it resolved?

if they're pressing action 70, try asking them to press 70+action code and see if that works, followed by prompt to enter account. then press 1 to LOAD. as of last night that code still worked at the register to load BB and Serve for me.

littleconsumer Aug 29, 15 12:52 pm

Anyone have an issue where their initial load to a serve temp card did not go through? I purchased 2 temp cards and put $497 on one, and $500 on another. One loaded, and the other didn't.

NoonRadar Aug 29, 15 1:47 pm

I know we are both cross posting, but for sake of data points I'll the same here to see if others might know

Originally Posted by djschni (Post 25345198)
I just activated my serve card this month after switching from Bluebird. Every time I try to load my card at WM, the CSR is kicked out at a little slip prints with the balance.

For clarification, the CSR is definitely pressing action 70, and she told me that the option to reload isn't showing up on her screen and it boots her out of the process. Has anyone had a similar experience and how was it resolved?

Are these recently upgraded registers by any chance? Ask the CRS about it, they should know if there was a recent software upgrade/update.

What about at Family Dollar?

Mamibear Aug 29, 15 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by littleconsumer (Post 25347477)
Anyone have an issue where their initial load to a serve temp card did not go through? I purchased 2 temp cards and put $497 on one, and $500 on another. One loaded, and the other didn't.

Did you check your receipt to see if both cards were Activated and show the last 4 digits of the packaging barcode? If one of them did not get properly activated it would say something like Fail -xxxx on your receipt, which if this is the case, go back to the merchant and see if they will fix it for you. You can also check balance of the card that didn't load to see if there is an initial load on it.

littleconsumer Aug 29, 15 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by Mamibear (Post 25347825)
Did you check your receipt to see if both cards were Activated and show the last 4 digits of the packaging barcode? If one of them did not get properly activated it would say something like Fail -xxxx on your receipt, which if this is the case, go back to the merchant and see if they will fix it for you. You can also check balance of the card that didn't load to see if there is an initial load on it.

Receipt shows packaging barcode. "Fail" is not mentioned anywhere on the receipt. Checking the balance online yields nothing. In fact, the serve site says that the card # isn't valid. I'm waiting until the charge posts to my card before going back to the merchant.

dereckxu2014 Aug 29, 15 4:26 pm

Cannot load serve at local walmart
 
HI guys,

I tried to load my serve at walmart in midway saint paul. However, after they swipe my serve card, it only had two options: 1. cash out 2. inquiry. I tried at the cashier, money center, and customer service, and the same thing happened. Since there isn't a load option, they told me I cannot load it at all. (They pressed 70 and action). The kiosk in the store was broken and may take up to 2 months to be fixed:(. I successfully loaded $500 at family dollar, but the cashier told me he can only load serve $500 per day. So I had to go back many times. Does anyone know what went wrong? Is it a store-specific issue? Or is it my card? I called serve and they told me it's walmart's problem. I would really appreciate it if someone could share some insight into this. Thanks!

Rooks Aug 29, 15 5:45 pm

I just went to fd to load and they tried to charge me a $3.95 fee. Is this new or did the cashier screw up? Last time I loaded there was a month ago.

dereckxu2014 Aug 29, 15 5:48 pm

I did it at FD this afternoon. Loaded 500 dollars and it was free.

Rooks Aug 29, 15 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by dereckxu2014 (Post 25348532)
I did it at FD this afternoon. Loaded 500 dollars and it was free.

Thanks. I guess the cashier did something wrong, but I wonder what? I'll try another fd.

Rooks Aug 29, 15 6:27 pm

Two days in a row at Walmart I tried to load a new serve card and it didn't give the cashier the option to load. It only said inquiry or get cash. I don't know what the problem is because I activated the card already.

dereckxu2014 Aug 29, 15 6:37 pm

THANKS FOR SHARING:). I called serve a few minutes ago and the CSR told me there seems to be a problem with the Walmart system causing this. Call serve to ask if they have fixed the problem before going to Walmart.

dereckxu2014 Aug 29, 15 6:39 pm

I read the wiki, but still want to verify if I use my platinum card to load 3000 onto serve within 3 months. Will I be able to get the welcome bonus? Or would this be too suspicious and cause me to fail to get the welcome bonus? Thank you!

Rooks Aug 29, 15 6:40 pm

I just called serve too and they just said that there was no problem with my card. No mention of wm's system having problems. Hope you're right.

CockyDoc16 Aug 29, 15 7:25 pm

Anyone know if a $500 load from a bank account to my spouse's serve account...that is then transferred to my Redbird (to avoid the $1 fee if we're not active with Serve) will get the account flagged? What about just loading $500 with a checking account and then withdrawing to that same checking account later in the month? I know I should probably just switch the Serve to Bluebird, but I like having the option of loading at FD in case I end up with a vanilla. Thank you!

nfpa70e Aug 29, 15 8:44 pm

I have AE serve card, can you load gift cards with debit /PIN number? I believe if you have this card, you are not eligible for Target Red bird card. Is this correct?

wallyworld2015 Aug 29, 15 9:26 pm


Originally Posted by jaggudada11 (Post 25348998)
I have AE serve card, can you load gift cards with debit /PIN number? I believe if you have this card, you are not eligible for Target Red bird card. Is this correct?

I am brand new here and will answer before you get beat up (might happen anyway). All of these questions are already answered if you had taken even a moment to read the initial intro of this very same thread.

To your first question if you mean online, no, and you will end up getting the card locked, blocked or shutdown. At the store at registers or Kate, yes. But you likely should read a bit more before heading that direction and trying it so that you will know what "should" happen so if you run into a problem in any step of the process you will know how best to react/handle the situation.

To answer your second question you are only allowed to have 1 type of card Red, Blue, or Serve registered to you.

My advice take an hour and read the wiki and some of the last 20 pages or more of posts in this thread you will benefit greatly from the information here and have a reduced chance of having minor issues such as loading the card issues to major ones of having the account closed/locked before you make your first load.

Other members with more mileage please correct me if anything I said is inaccurate.

nfpa70e Aug 29, 15 10:29 pm

I have read the wiki, the information keeps changing; I thought you can have only one Serve card, how come people are able to have multiple serve cards?

2nd, where can you buy gift cards to load it to serve? Can you buy VGC in Walmart and load it there?


To your first question if you mean online, no,
What about american express CC linking to your online serve account?

Phantom707 Aug 29, 15 11:54 pm


Originally Posted by jaggudada11 (Post 25349272)
I have read the wiki, the information keeps changing; I thought you can have only one Serve card, how come people are able to have multiple serve cards?

2nd, where can you buy gift cards to load it to serve? Can you buy VGC in Walmart and load it there?



What about american express CC linking to your online serve account?

The only currently legitimate way to get multiple Serve cards is to use the social security numbers of other people, such as friends and/or family.

Anywhere that sells VGC with a PIN that are not Vanilla brand. Yes, the cards in Walmart work. Make sure that they are issued by Sunrise Bank if you get them in Walmart because they also sell Vanilla.

Please don't be stupid by immediately opening the VGC from the packaging and then asking to load your Serve card right in front of the cashier. Return to your car or something to open the card and then go back inside the store.

Yes, you can link an American Express credit card to load Serve online. If it's a card issued by Amex, then it will allow you to meet minimum spend but not earn points. If it's issued by another bank, it should earn points.

sechs Aug 30, 15 12:11 am


Originally Posted by jaggudada11 (Post 25349272)
I have read the wiki, the information keeps changing

You apparently have not read the wiki as the information does not keep changing.

If you're expecting to get spoon-fed information, you're just going to piss a lot of people off. Do your research.

nfpa70e Aug 30, 15 6:04 am


Originally Posted by Phantom707 (Post 25349428)

Yes, you can link an American Express credit card to load Serve online. If it's a card issued by Amex, then it will allow you to meet minimum spend but not earn points. If it's issued by another bank, it should earn points.

Thanks Phantom

It seems like those who know this stuff answer properly, those who don't let them keep pissing in the pants. Better ignored.

In your serve account, you can link debit card, credit card. From April 2015 on wards, Serve has stopped linking 3rd party CCs. You have already answered that you can link AMEX network card online and use that towards 1K spending, you won't get any points but you can use that towards Min Spending.

How about the debit card with the PIN? Can you buy it in store and unload that online to your serve account? without having to go through Walmart register or KATE?


If it's issued by another bank, it should earn points
I don't think you can link card issued by another bank.

Mamibear Aug 30, 15 6:25 am


Originally Posted by jaggudada11 (Post 25350073)
How about the debit card with the PIN? Can you buy it in store and unload that online to your serve account? without having to go through Walmart register or KATE?

do NOT even try it or you'll get flagged. even if you register the dift card and make it appear like a regular DC issued by your bank, the numbers alone will reveal what it is so just load them in-store, either at WM or FD.

czech99 Aug 30, 15 5:18 pm

Hi I was hoping to get some clarity on some verbiage. I use to have a serve account but closed it back in April/may. I just opened a new account again since it didn't have my old account info.

Anyways I just got the Amex 100k miles on 3k spend. So I know filling up your server account using your Amex counts against your min spend but people say you don't get points. Does that mean I will get my promo points after my min spend but anything besides that I won't get any points after? Is that right ?

Last question is can a serve account act like a checking acct? I can only pay my rent via checking. It auto withdrawals it. Is that possible with the serve account? Trying to figure out best way to use the 3k or give it back to myself. If I withdrew it all slowly in a month or 2 would that work?

Phantom707 Aug 30, 15 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by jaggudada11 (Post 25350073)
Thanks Phantom

It seems like those who know this stuff answer properly, those who don't let them keep pissing in the pants. Better ignored.

In your serve account, you can link debit card, credit card. From April 2015 on wards, Serve has stopped linking 3rd party CCs. You have already answered that you can link AMEX network card online and use that towards 1K spending, you won't get any points but you can use that towards Min Spending.

How about the debit card with the PIN? Can you buy it in store and unload that online to your serve account? without having to go through Walmart register or KATE?



I don't think you can link card issued by another bank.

As Mami Bear said, don't even try linking it online.

Your comment on not being able to link s card issued by another bank is actually quite annoying to me. It shows that you have a presupposition, which is completely fine. What's not fine is the air with which you show such supposition, that you are right and I'm wrong.

I don't think you understand the difference between the card issuing bank and the payment network. The difference is huge for the purposes of Serve. I'm mobile so can't type properly, but suffice it to say you are wrong.

To the other poster, I can't quite multiple because I'm mobile, but Serve can work for receiving deposits, but you cannot pull funds out of it in the way you would with a traditional checking account. Pulls fail. You can use Serve to send a check in the mail or to withdraw to a real checking account, but you cannot have an external site pull funds.

dereckxu2014 Aug 30, 15 7:19 pm

loaded at FD today and they charged me $3.95 for every 500 load. I believe it is because we have the new blue serve which does not offer free reloads. However, I was able to load $2000 at the same FD.

Phantom707 Aug 30, 15 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by dereckxu2014 (Post 25352919)
loaded at FD today and they charged me $3.95 for every 500 load. I believe it is because we have the new blue serve which does not offer free reloads. However, I was able to load $2000 at the same FD.

That's cool. Was it all at the same time, or did you come back later in the day? Also, was it not possible to split tender?

dereckxu2014 Aug 30, 15 8:10 pm


Originally Posted by Phantom707 (Post 25353068)
That's cool. Was it all at the same time, or did you come back later in the day? Also, was it not possible to split tender?

loaded $1000 first and used too $500 vgc to pay plus my bank debit card for the 3.95 fee. Come back later to load another 1000 in about one hour. The manager said she is not aware of any store limits. She can load as many as I prefer as long as the system takes it.

nfpa70e Aug 30, 15 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by Phantom707 (Post 25352575)
What's not fine is the air with which you show such supposition, that you are right and I'm wrong.

On an internet you have no idea what I was supposing or not. I could have written, I thought, I don't believe.... etc etc, what is there to take offence to these little things instead of focusing on the substance. If I said I don't think you can link...does that mean I was proving you are WRONG and I'm RIGHT.

In my understanding, which could be totally wrong, I thought prior to April 2015, serve would let you link any credit card and load $200 per day. I did this several times, after 4/15, it is my understanding that you can only link Amex network credit cards.

Phantom707 Aug 30, 15 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by jaggudada11 (Post 25353384)
On an internet you have no idea what I was supposing or not. I could have written, I thought, I don't believe.... etc etc, what is there to take offence to these little things instead of focusing on the substance. If I said I don't think you can link...does that mean I was proving you are WRONG and I'm RIGHT.

In my understanding, which could be totally wrong, I thought prior to April 2015, serve would let you link any credit card and load $200 per day. I did this several times, after 4/15, it is my understanding that you can only link Amex network credit cards.

You are completely correct that I can't know what you were thinking. I can only ever go off of what was in front of me, the text that you had typed. And that text, regardless of the intentions that you had behind it, communicated to me the idea that I was wrong. Just like if I overtly said I think Obama is cool while in my head I think otherwise, people who heard me can only base their understandings on what they heard outside my head. A person could be overly racist and actually be against racism in their head, but to everyone else, that person will appear as a racist. Your writing, independent of any intentions, communicated a specific message to me.

Anyways, I said this clearly in one of my previous messages. "Yes, you can link an American Express credit card to load Serve online. If it's a card issued by Amex, then it will allow you to meet minimum spend but not earn points. If it's issued by another bank, it should earn points."

Amex, the bank, issues credit cards. Those credit cards all run on the Amex network. Other banks, like Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Citi, etc., issue cards that also run on the Amex network. The former group are called first party Amex cards while the latter are third party. Both types can be used with Serve. First party cards will not earn points, but the transactions count towards minimum spend. Third party cards will earn points and have the transactions count towards minimum spend.

For example, I have a Fidelity Amex card. It's issued by Bank of America and runs on the Amex payment processing network. It earns points for Serve transactions. I also have an Amex Platinum. Serve transactions count towards minimum spend but do not earn points. That's what I mean by third party.

czech99 Aug 30, 15 10:19 pm


Originally Posted by Phantom707 (Post 25353444)
I also have an Amex Platinum. Serve transactions count towards minimum spend but do not earn points. That's what I mean by third party.

do you mind clarifying this? So once you meet your minimum you still get your points, but anything else besides that you don't earn any, correct?

vwks2006 Aug 30, 15 10:32 pm


Originally Posted by czech99 (Post 25353532)
do you mind clarifying this? So once you meet your minimum you still get your points, but anything else besides that you don't earn any, correct?

Meaning, it counts for sign up bonus but that's it.. no rewards on the "spend".

nfpa70e Aug 30, 15 10:53 pm


Originally Posted by Phantom707 (Post 25353444)

For example, I have a Fidelity Amex card. It's issued by Bank of America and runs on the Amex payment processing network. It earns points for Serve transactions. I also have an Amex Platinum. Serve transactions count towards minimum spend but do not earn points. That's what I mean by third party.

Fair enough, I have seen people waste so much time on nonsensical things. Unless the tone is direct snarky, one should not assume anything.

Clearly there is different understanding. What I said was non-amex network credit cards can't be used to load the serve accounts. This is what I mean by 3rd party CCs for e.g. Chase VISA card will fall under this category.

Anyway, can you use amex network CC to link and load online, $200 per day, $1000 maximum per month? or even this shouldn't be attempted.


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