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The previous megathread is here.

Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.


As of April 16, 2015 regular Serve cards will only accept American Express network cards for online credit card loads.
Softcard Serve accounts are apparently grandfathered in the old system and continue to work as before, being able to load Mastercard, Visa, and Discover (see below).


Serve loads count towards minimum spend on AmEx-issued cards, including SPG.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD

Regular Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month [B]
  • Online Credit Card Load (AmEx only) - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Softcard Serve
Softcard has shutdown and there is no longer any way to apply for this version.
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.

OneVip Card: (Mucho gracias, AndrewTheMan)
This card is essentially just like the regular, fee-free, "old" serve. You may reload this card up to $2,500/day; $1,000/transaction at Walmart (not impacted by Blue Bird daily limit change). Have not tested FD or anywhere else. KATE takes this no problems..
You can use this to load the FIDO AMEX up to 1k a month.

Limits for online debit card and credit card loads reset at 9 PM PST/12 AM EST

Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

A few report no problems loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval. One person with a Serve/Softcard account reported being sent to the main Serve number for this process.

https://www.serve.com/help/#add-money-5

Regular Serve Credit Card Loading

Regular Serve can only load from American Express network cards. In addition to those issued directly by American Express, this includes the following:
  • AAA Rewards AmEx
  • Alitalia AmEx
  • Bank of America Accelerated Rewards AmEx
  • Bank of America Asiana Airlines AmEx
  • Bank of Hawaii AmEx Card with MyBankoh Rewards
  • Bloomingdale's AmEx
  • Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select AmEx
  • Citi Dividend AmEx (not obtainable unless specifically requested)
  • Citi Thank You Preferred AmEx (not obtainable unless specifically requested)
  • Dillard's AmEx
  • FNBO AmEx
  • FNBO Graphite AmEx
  • FNBO Platinum AmEx
  • Macy's AmEx
  • Penfed Premium Travel Rewards AmEx
  • SavingStar AmEx
  • Travelocity AmEx
  • US Bank Flexperks AmEx
  • USAA Cash Rewards/Rewards Plus AmEx
  • Wells Fargo Propel World/365 AmEx

Softcard Serve Credit Card Loading

If you are fortunate enough to be grandfathered into a Softcard Serve Account, you can also load other credit cards beside American Express cards. Softcard Serve is not available to new applicants anymore so you'll need to get one of the other Serve options if you don't already have one. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as purchases. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover
  • Wells Fargo (American Express)

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express issued (Counts toward minimum spend -- see post #434) but does not earn points. Example: For the Delta Amex card, Serve counts towards min spend DL miles sign-up bonus, but that spend and subsequent trials of spend on Serve will not earn points. Don't do it, man!

Posts as a cash advance:
The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

A few report being unable to add the Chase IHG MC.

Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.

Switching to Serve
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

Switching from Redbird is presumably similar. See the RedCard thread for more information.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318

Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.

Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement

For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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People with an apartment address can find helpful information quoted in post #7
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Old Jul 15, 15, 4:59 pm
  #1756  
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
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The last post regarding reloadit's and serve was March '15 (at least in this thread). Does anyone still use this option? Any problems?
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Old Jul 15, 15, 5:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Anthony7929 View Post
The last post regarding reloadit's and serve was March '15 (at least in this thread). Does anyone still use this option? Any problems?
I tried this for the first time last week and it worked once the safe was back up. Entered the RLT into the safe, then loaded the serve card which I had inputted a few days previously.
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Old Jul 15, 15, 7:16 pm
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Did my first serve load @ KATE today. Had to do 3x separate tx to load the 3x $200 vgc from staples. Overall it went smoothly. Going to try FD as those are closer to me. Now that the sink works, just need to find a low cost source for vgc.
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Old Jul 16, 15, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by ymarker View Post
Did my first serve load @ KATE today. Had to do 3x separate tx to load the 3x $200 vgc from staples. Overall it went smoothly. Going to try FD as those are closer to me. Now that the sink works, just need to find a low cost source for vgc.

which VGC are working? i'm assuming the vanilla visas still don't work, or has that changed in the last few months? (these are best for me since they have 4.95$ fee vs. 5.95$ fees for other visa/mc gift cards that are available to me).
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Old Jul 16, 15, 1:40 pm
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Join Date: May 2014
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Angry I cannot load online

Is there anyone encounter this problem? I cannot load my Serve(softcard) account online either by credit card or debit card for more than one week. Every time when I click "review" button after selecting which card to use and how much to load, the page turns to
"Technical Difficulties
Due to technical difficulties we are unable to process your request at the moment. Please try again.

We apologize for the inconvenience."

What is wrong with my account??? Until the beginning of July, I can always load my account online with credit/debit card $500 per day, $1500 per month without any problem.
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Old Jul 16, 15, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Iridium7777 View Post
which VGC are working? i'm assuming the vanilla visas still don't work, or has that changed in the last few months? (these are best for me since they have 4.95$ fee vs. 5.95$ fees for other visa/mc gift cards that are available to me).
Kate stopped taking vanilla for quite some time (see wiki). I had the vgc from staples.
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Old Jul 16, 15, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by ymarker View Post
Kate stopped taking vanilla for quite some time (see wiki). I had the vgc from staples.
Hello - would the vanilla visa issued by bankcorp work at the check out register ?? (NOT KATE)

A few months ago, i was able to unload one issued my meta bank. I don't do it very often and have never done one from bankcorp.

Thanks
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Old Jul 16, 15, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Lesfilles View Post
Hello - would the vanilla visa issued by bankcorp work at the check out register ?? (NOT KATE)

A few months ago, i was able to unload one issued my meta bank. I don't do it very often and have never done one from bankcorp.

Thanks
No, it would not.
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Old Jul 16, 15, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Phantom707 View Post
No, it would not.
Is there a thread somewhere why bankcorp issued cards don't work at all ?

The ones I have are 'pin enabled' .. 4 digit pin @ first use
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Old Jul 16, 15, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Lesfilles View Post
Is there a thread somewhere why bankcorp issued cards don't work at all ?

The ones I have are 'pin enabled' .. 4 digit pin @ first use
There are a couple of threads that talk about the issue, including this one and the thread on using Vanilla for MO at Walmart (it's a closed thread but still has info)

I speculate the reason is that Incomm/Bancorp (they're in a partnership), the entity that issues Vanilla cards, also manages the reload network for Serve. If you look at the receipt after loading Serve, it says Incomm reload.

My theory is speculation, and it has holes. For instance, why are money orders also limited? Why do Vanilla cards work at Family Dollar? I don't know.
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Old Jul 16, 15, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Lesfilles View Post
Hello - would the vanilla visa issued by bankcorp work at the check out register ?? (NOT KATE)

A few months ago, i was able to unload one issued my meta bank. I don't do it very often and have never done one from bankcorp.
yes, they'll work at <$50/load @ Kate, register lane or MC. IOW, you can't load full $200 or $500 vanillas in one transaction at WM or WMNM.
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Old Jul 17, 15, 3:52 am
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Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select AmEx

I thought this card would help me acquire more AA miles. I spent a long time on hold with Citibank while the CSR researched my request to either convert my existing AA Platinum Select MC or add the AMEX to my existing account. After much research, the CSR informed me that Citi no longer offers this product and will eventually phase it out. Furthermore, Citi signed an agreement with MasterCard to replace all expiring Visa and AMEX cards with MasterCard products.

In case anyone recently succeeded in obtaining a Citi AAdvantage Platinum Select AmEx, this avenue might be dead.
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Old Jul 17, 15, 3:39 pm
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Hello. I added my wife as my AU last week. The original intention was for Amex offer. However, once I have that card activated I noticed something unexpected.

1) My wife's card does not share the same balance with mine, as well as activities. It looks very much like an independent card on its own.

2) When I submitted the application last week, I can remember the form did validate the email address. However, it's the same SSN.

So, does anyone know if the new card share the same daily / monthly load limit with the main one?

I'm sure I have read the wiki several times but don't find much of a clue. Thanks.
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Old Jul 17, 15, 4:22 pm
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So, does anyone know if the new card share the same daily / monthly load limit with the main one?
afaik, AU Serve cards share the daily and monthly load limit of the primary card. She can, however, register for her own card with her SSN because there is no limit per HH.
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Old Jul 17, 15, 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Mamibear View Post
afaik, AU Serve cards share the daily and monthly load limit of the primary card. She can, however, register for her own card with her SSN because there is no limit per HH.
Thanks. Good to know. I would not have her to register for serve as she has her own red card already. It wouldn't be that useful I guess except for the amex offer part.
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