May 29, 2014, 7:43 pm
Last edit by: prasha11
Does not work anymore, is dead..... what is the point to report 'not working'?
As of 08/25/2014, Bancorp cards (Vanilla Visa, OneVanilla, etc.) are rarely working first try for debit transactions at Walmart. There is no apparent geographical basis. Basically, it's a crapshoot.
Do not agitate a cashier or store and lose the ability to make these transactions in the future. Multiple failed swipes or transactions will likely increase scrutiny. You do not want that. It is best to stop using these cards.
Vanilla VISA defaulting to credit
As of 5/29/2014, at most Walmart locations, all Vanilla VISA cards issued by The Bancorp Bank are automatically recognized as credit. Most Mastercard have required a workaround for some time. The MoneyCenter Express (ATM, kiosk, Kate) is not affected by this change.
As of 08/25/2014, Bancorp cards (Vanilla Visa, OneVanilla, etc.) are rarely working first try for debit transactions at Walmart. There is no apparent geographical basis. Basically, it's a crapshoot.
Do not agitate a cashier or store and lose the ability to make these transactions in the future. Multiple failed swipes or transactions will likely increase scrutiny. You do not want that. It is best to stop using these cards.
Vanilla VISA defaulting to credit
As of 5/29/2014, at most Walmart locations, all Vanilla VISA cards issued by The Bancorp Bank are automatically recognized as credit. Most Mastercard have required a workaround for some time. The MoneyCenter Express (ATM, kiosk, Kate) is not affected by this change.
MO Purchases using OV @ WM
Jun 14, 2014, 12:26 pm
#976
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Fishers, IN
Posts: 105
I experienced this one time too. At a cashier, after swipe it would go immediately to the sig screen. No chance at all to hit cancel because it was never there. I gave up after a few tries and moved to a cashier 3 lanes down after doing some normal shopping for a few minutes. The new register worked fine and I was able to hit cancel as normal.
Jun 14, 2014, 12:57 pm
#977
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: IL
Posts: 270
My Walmart doesn't care at all that I'm using gift cards, but sometimes I run into problems getting it to process as a debit (without me getting a chance to hit the 'change payment' button. I've read here about the cashier pressing 'debit' too soon, but I'm not quite sure what they are supposed to do. If I'm using multiple gift cards to buy one money order, do I tell them the amount before I swipe the first gift card? Should I ask them to avoid pressing any buttons until after I swipe my first gift card? Can the cashier enter the amount of the first swipe before I swipe it without messing it up? Or is it better for them to wait until after I've hit the "change payment" button to enter the amount of the first swipe to $500?
The key is hitting change payment prior to them hitting debit. What you can do to ensure this happens, is tell them about split payments AFTER you swipe but BEFORE you enter pin (so it doesn't try to drain the entire bill). So swipe, press change payment, then communicate split payment (at this point it doesn't matter who is first to what), so you can take your time with debit->no cashback-> pin, as long as you hear them punch the number of keys required for your split amount plus debit key prior to you confirming pin. If they are still overzealous after a swipe and prior to split request, a simple "you beat me to it" generally works.
Last edited by zozeppelin; Jun 14, 2014 at 1:03 pm
Jun 14, 2014, 3:53 pm
#978
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SAN
Programs: Delta Gold. Hilton Diamond. Hyatt Explorist.
Posts: 1,671
This is discussed several times in the thread. I recommend spending 30 minutes reading the thread prior to spending however-long a failed walmart trip is.
The key is hitting change payment prior to them hitting debit. What you can do to ensure this happens, is tell them about split payments AFTER you swipe but BEFORE you enter pin (so it doesn't try to drain the entire bill). So swipe, press change payment, then communicate split payment (at this point it doesn't matter who is first to what), so you can take your time with debit->no cashback-> pin, as long as you hear them punch the number of keys required for your split amount plus debit key prior to you confirming pin. If they are still overzealous after a swipe and prior to split request, a simple "you beat me to it" generally works.
The key is hitting change payment prior to them hitting debit. What you can do to ensure this happens, is tell them about split payments AFTER you swipe but BEFORE you enter pin (so it doesn't try to drain the entire bill). So swipe, press change payment, then communicate split payment (at this point it doesn't matter who is first to what), so you can take your time with debit->no cashback-> pin, as long as you hear them punch the number of keys required for your split amount plus debit key prior to you confirming pin. If they are still overzealous after a swipe and prior to split request, a simple "you beat me to it" generally works.
Jun 14, 2014, 8:20 pm
#979
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: PHL
Posts: 930
My Walmart doesn't care at all that I'm using gift cards, but sometimes I run into problems getting it to process as a debit (without me getting a chance to hit the 'change payment' button. I've read here about the cashier pressing 'debit' too soon, but I'm not quite sure what they are supposed to do. If I'm using multiple gift cards to buy one money order, do I tell them the amount before I swipe the first gift card? Should I ask them to avoid pressing any buttons until after I swipe my first gift card? Can the cashier enter the amount of the first swipe before I swipe it without messing it up? Or is it better for them to wait until after I've hit the "change payment" button to enter the amount of the first swipe to $500?
1. Identify the machine (color or black and white).
2. If color, swipe card and immediately hit "change payment". If black and white, swipe card and hit cancel after the screen blinks once.
3. Get your MO.
There is no way that a cashier should beat you unless they are trying to.
Jun 15, 2014, 6:43 am
#980
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 1999
Posts: 24,153
I had problems too. Here is what I do:
1. Identify the machine (color or black and white).
2. If color, swipe card and immediately hit "change payment". If black and white, swipe card and hit cancel after the screen blinks once.
3. Get your MO.
There is no way that a cashier should beat you unless they are trying to.
1. Identify the machine (color or black and white).
2. If color, swipe card and immediately hit "change payment". If black and white, swipe card and hit cancel after the screen blinks once.
3. Get your MO.
There is no way that a cashier should beat you unless they are trying to.
Jun 15, 2014, 7:37 am
#981
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,322
Since Metabank GCs are still accepted without work around, it's worth the $1 price difference for me to avoid all this hassle.
P.S. > The MB GC packages are also a lot easier to open!
P.S. > The MB GC packages are also a lot easier to open!
Jun 15, 2014, 10:53 am
#982
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 14,162
I don't have these machine/cashier problems in Madison, though, so I'll stay with VGCs. I just curse a lot more now.
Jun 15, 2014, 11:04 am
#983
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 175
Only $1 extra, but when you do x10 cards per visit and you visit multiple times a week, those $1s add up quickly! It's worth a little extra physical labor to save $10 per visit. I'm fortunate to have the same 4-5 employees in MC every time I visit. When the new change kicked in, we adjusted and kept rolling.
Jun 15, 2014, 12:04 pm
#984
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: AA Gold
Posts: 190
Only $1 extra, but when you do x10 cards per visit and you visit multiple times a week, those $1s add up quickly! It's worth a little extra physical labor to save $10 per visit. I'm fortunate to have the same 4-5 employees in MC every time I visit. When the new change kicked in, we adjusted and kept rolling.
Jun 15, 2014, 2:10 pm
#985
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 511
While I've never been a big Kate user, I've been adapting to including it in my runs.
The last two Kates I've visited have been operational - but say money orders are not available at the machine and to go to the CS desk.
This a normal occurrence or are they disabling the kiosk to control MO from there as well?
The last two Kates I've visited have been operational - but say money orders are not available at the machine and to go to the CS desk.
This a normal occurrence or are they disabling the kiosk to control MO from there as well?
Jun 15, 2014, 2:22 pm
#986
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CA
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 2,879
While I've never been a big Kate user, I've been adapting to including it in my runs.
The last two Kates I've visited have been operational - but say money orders are not available at the machine and to go to the CS desk.
This a normal occurrence or are they disabling the kiosk to control MO from there as well?
The last two Kates I've visited have been operational - but say money orders are not available at the machine and to go to the CS desk.
This a normal occurrence or are they disabling the kiosk to control MO from there as well?
Jun 15, 2014, 4:01 pm
#987
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: PHL
Posts: 930
Went to WM today to find extremely long lines at the MC. There was one couple, and the husband was picking the wife's hair, like an ape would. Then, at the second WM, there was some neo Nazi (swastika tattoos and everything) yelling at the MC employee. Good Lord, the people that WM attracts...
Jun 15, 2014, 4:46 pm
#989
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 299
WM MO
Went to WM today to find extremely long lines at the MC. There was one couple, and the husband was picking the wife's hair, like an ape would. Then, at the second WM, there was some neo Nazi (swastika tattoos and everything) yelling at the MC employee. Good Lord, the people that WM attracts... What part of the world is this?. WM is indeed a sad place. My local WM (12 miles away) has mainly very fat folks... customers and clerks!! I'm the skinniest one there !!My dad wasn't in the Air Force in WWII to let this creep publicly display swastika's.!! But its a given in our constitution. But "picking hair like apes"??? Sad place. But they seem to have $ for smokes and tats tho
Jun 15, 2014, 4:52 pm
#990
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 299
WM
While I've never been a big Kate user, I've been adapting to including it in my runs. So you can't make it to the rest rooms?? Sorry, no malice intended, just had to laugh when I read that!!!
