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carpentry4thought May 22, 2014 8:40 pm


Originally Posted by uncommonsensical (Post 22910335)
only helpful as a data point if you say the card/issuer...

whatever is being used :)

CrediPig May 22, 2014 10:13 pm

Avoid or not avoid spending more than CL??
 
My Barclay Arrival and my SO's were closed by Barclays after 8 months. I had just ramped up to 2x CL per month on each card. They stated "history of usage."

Chris92128 May 22, 2014 10:15 pm


Originally Posted by carpentry4thought (Post 22910283)
To you guys running multiples of your CL, are the purchases obvious MS like Amex gift cards or is it more diversified?

I mix in regular spend but the bulk $ amount of the purchases are obvious MS. I dunno if they care or not. I've had to call in a few times for fraud alerts for gift cards but each time it was simple and they thanked me several times for using the card and apologized for the inconvenience.

Chris92128 May 22, 2014 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by CrediPig (Post 22910700)
My Barclay Arrival and my SO's were closed by Barclays after 8 months. I had just ramped up to 2x CL per month on each card. They stated "history of usage."

What did they do with the points when you got shut down?

FTR 787 May 23, 2014 12:36 am


Originally Posted by CrediPig (Post 22910700)
My Barclay Arrival and my SO's were closed by Barclays after 8 months. I had just ramped up to 2x CL per month on each card. They stated "history of usage."

pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered... ;)

oh wait :p

hitman1420 May 23, 2014 1:05 am


Originally Posted by CrediPig (Post 22910700)
My Barclay Arrival and my SO's were closed by Barclays after 8 months. I had just ramped up to 2x CL per month on each card. They stated "history of usage."

Hmmmmm, scary stuff. Sorry to hear that. Were you using an AU on your SO's account. If so, was your AU card the majority of the spending? Any Boost purchases?

worldtravels May 23, 2014 1:28 am


Originally Posted by CrediPig (Post 22910700)
My Barclay Arrival and my SO's were closed by Barclays after 8 months. I had just ramped up to 2x CL per month on each card. They stated "history of usage."

Sorry to hear that.

Just wondering. Did you call them to try to reopen or to find out the real reason? Were any of your other accounts closed, and did they look at your credit report?

FlyingBoat May 23, 2014 9:19 am


Originally Posted by Chris92128 (Post 22910713)
What did they do with the points when you got shut down?

This caught my attention too, because I have very large Barclay point balances and have been concerned about closure.

Credipig may give a more informed response than mine, but reading their other posts, he/she said no luck getting the point balance. Also, if it is pertinent, he/she was almost exclusively using arrival to load Visabuxx card as I understand it. I don't understand that card much, but hopefully, for me, that is what caused the shut down rather than CL use or point redemption or point balance.

I am sitting with over $12K in Barclay point balances, primarily from using Boost, and do not want to get shut down. I was doing 2x to 3x CL, but am sticking to 1x for now and hopefully will not get hit. I guess I may need to do a bunch of reservations, redemptions, and then cancelations to get my points out instead of holding them for real trips, if they are going to cancel and forfeit our points whenever they want.

ericdabbs May 23, 2014 9:24 am


Originally Posted by FlyingBoat (Post 22912860)
This caught my attention too, because I have very large Barclay point balances and have been concerned about closure.

Credipig may give a more informed response than mine, but reading their other posts, he/she said no luck getting the point balance. Also, if it is pertinent, he/she was almost exclusively using arrival to load Visabuxx card as I understand it. I don't understand that card much, but hopefully, for me, that is what caused the shut down rather than CL use or point redemption or point balance.

I am sitting with over $12K in Barclay point balances, primarily from using Boost, and do not want to get shut down. I was doing 2x to 3x CL, but am sticking to 1x for now and hopefully will not get hit. I guess I may need to do a bunch of reservations, redemptions, and then cancelations to get my points out instead of holding them for real trips, if they are going to cancel and forfeit our points whenever they want.

People need to keep in mind that 2x to 3x CL is a really relative number. If your CL is only $4K, doing 2x to 3x CL with a good salary is not bad. However if you have a CL of say $15K and you are doing 2x to 3x CL then that is a completely different story.

So I guess what I am saying is that you can't just assume that doing multiples on your CL is necessary bad if you have a low CL. However if you have a high CL than it is NOT a great idea to be spending a total of say $50K/month compared to someone who is doing the same multiple and is spending a total of $15K/month.

Lappie May 23, 2014 9:37 am


Originally Posted by uncommonsensical (Post 22910335)
only helpful as a data point if you say the card/issuer...

The card is transparent and has a blue square in the middle of it. I use it at CVS and Grocery Stores. That should be a good enough hint.

As far as purchases, I only do MS and its quite obvious if looked at. However, I do spread it to different stores, and I use different amounts each time. I add a Coke or something to the end.

Edit: I routinely make sure any points are used month to month. I dont hold a balance.

MsArbi May 23, 2014 9:42 am

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commdiver May 23, 2014 9:52 am


Originally Posted by ericdabbs (Post 22912895)
People need to keep in mind that 2x to 3x CL is a really relative number. If your CL is only $4K, doing 2x to 3x CL with a good salary is not bad. However if you have a CL of say $15K and you are doing 2x to 3x CL then that is a completely different story.

So I guess what I am saying is that you can't just assume that doing multiples on your CL is necessary bad if you have a low CL. However if you have a high CL than it is NOT a great idea to be spending a total of say $50K/month compared to someone who is doing the same multiple and is spending a total of $15K/month.

This.

All these multiples that get thrown around are meaningless. If your CL is $2,000, the chance of you getting shut down for doing 2X is highly unlikely, but if your CL was $50,000, I am sure some flags would be raised.

Chris92128 May 23, 2014 10:06 am

I try to redeem my Barclays balance whenever I get over 100k points just in case of shut down.

ericdabbs May 23, 2014 10:06 am


Originally Posted by commdiver (Post 22913094)
This.

All these multiples that get thrown around are meaningless. If your CL is $2,000, the chance of you getting shut down for doing 2X is highly unlikely, but if your CL was $50,000, I am sure some flags would be raised.

What people need to do is when they are talking about doing multiples of their CL they need to put context as to what their CL is so that people don't get confused. I do hate all these multiples that get thrown around with no context as to the amount that is being cycled.

exmike May 23, 2014 10:13 am


Originally Posted by xp0 (Post 22905465)
Some care, some dont. Some people care, some dont. I dont care therefor I spend at least 5-10x my CL monthly.

I find this comment interesting. Would you care if you could no longer MS 10x your CL, thats giving up quite a lot of points. I believe you would.


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