Simon mall gift card(2014-2015)
Sep 25, 2014, 7:36 am
#391
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 226
When I went to SM to purchase GC, there was a guy on front of me doing transaction and I saw he was buying 20 of $500 GCs using Amex Gold Business credit card and have to filled out the form but he looked calm and just filled out the form. Looks like he does this thing a lot.
1. I wonder why he could do that, buying large amount ($10k) of GCs using Amex cc without worried that Amex will freeze his Amex Gold Business card and hit him with Financial Review (FR) for buying large amount of GCs? My personal experience: I bought $1000 of GCs using my Amex SPG card and paid the balance off, my account was frozen by Amex and was hit by FR !!
Or does this exception only for Amex Gold card?
2. Where can I find information about which Walmart that still have Kate active and running for loading debit GC to BB? Please share the link to the thread.
I have one local Walmart that still have Kate and I had been loading my GC to BB there but last week something happened, the "Bluebird" function is not available anymore but other functions are ok. Looks like they programmed it that way now
I haven't tried to use the option "Walmart Moneycard", does it function the same way as "Bluebird" option and will allow me to load my GC to BB?
1. I wonder why he could do that, buying large amount ($10k) of GCs using Amex cc without worried that Amex will freeze his Amex Gold Business card and hit him with Financial Review (FR) for buying large amount of GCs? My personal experience: I bought $1000 of GCs using my Amex SPG card and paid the balance off, my account was frozen by Amex and was hit by FR !!
Or does this exception only for Amex Gold card?
2. Where can I find information about which Walmart that still have Kate active and running for loading debit GC to BB? Please share the link to the thread.
I have one local Walmart that still have Kate and I had been loading my GC to BB there but last week something happened, the "Bluebird" function is not available anymore but other functions are ok. Looks like they programmed it that way now
I haven't tried to use the option "Walmart Moneycard", does it function the same way as "Bluebird" option and will allow me to load my GC to BB?
2. Might want to check the WM Kiosk thread. Sorry, I forgot my spoon at home today.
Sep 25, 2014, 7:43 am
#392
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,207
When I went to SM to purchase GC, there was a guy on front of me doing transaction and I saw he was buying 20 of $500 GCs using Amex Gold Business credit card and have to filled out the form but he looked calm and just filled out the form. Looks like he does this thing a lot.
1. I wonder why he could do that, buying large amount ($10k) of GCs using Amex cc without worried that Amex will freeze his Amex Gold Business card and hit him with Financial Review (FR) for buying large amount of GCs? My personal experience: I bought $1000 of GCs using my Amex SPG card and paid the balance off, my account was frozen by Amex and was hit by FR !!
Or does this exception only for Amex Gold card?
2. Where can I find information about which Walmart that still have Kate active and running for loading debit GC to BB? Please share the link to the thread.
I have one local Walmart that still have Kate and I had been loading my GC to BB there but last week something happened, the "Bluebird" function is not available anymore but other functions are ok. Looks like they programmed it that way now
I haven't tried to use the option "Walmart Moneycard", does it function the same way as "Bluebird" option and will allow me to load my GC to BB?
1. I wonder why he could do that, buying large amount ($10k) of GCs using Amex cc without worried that Amex will freeze his Amex Gold Business card and hit him with Financial Review (FR) for buying large amount of GCs? My personal experience: I bought $1000 of GCs using my Amex SPG card and paid the balance off, my account was frozen by Amex and was hit by FR !!
Or does this exception only for Amex Gold card?
2. Where can I find information about which Walmart that still have Kate active and running for loading debit GC to BB? Please share the link to the thread.
I have one local Walmart that still have Kate and I had been loading my GC to BB there but last week something happened, the "Bluebird" function is not available anymore but other functions are ok. Looks like they programmed it that way now
I haven't tried to use the option "Walmart Moneycard", does it function the same way as "Bluebird" option and will allow me to load my GC to BB?
Sep 25, 2014, 7:56 am
#393
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: SoCal
Programs: AA EXP, SPG Lifetime Platinum, MR Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 249
Point of reference for all you worry worts out there. Been doing $8k every two weeks at Simon for over a year all on two SPG Amex cards (mine & wife) without any issues. Just sit back and enjoy the ride while it lasts.
Sep 25, 2014, 9:09 am
#394
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 349
They are well aware of why we do this. On my last trip, the woman asked if I was buying the cards for the credit card points. I said no and asked what she meant. In a rather disapproving voice she said, "lots of people are buying these just to earn points on their cards."
Sep 25, 2014, 9:14 am
#395
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 226
It was her general tone, plus with it all being run by Blackhawk now, who knows how long it will last. It just didn't seem like she was asking me to be friendly but more to determine whether I'd be allowed to buy them. I may just have been reading too much into it.
Sep 25, 2014, 2:05 pm
#397
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: SFO/SJC
Programs: MR,UR, UA, BA, AA, Hotels
Posts: 581
Same experience in the CA Bay Area - all the SM CS agents ask about your points/ trips when you buy more than 1 card. Someone's been boasting.
I've been MSing about $25k a month for years, and just now added simon mall GCs into my arsenal, which entails a bit of a trek for me but worth it IMO. Anyway, very first purchase I show up and the girl at the info desk tells me I can buy $20-ish (I'm not listening to this amount) to $500. I ask, "what's the most I can buy? I need thousands". To which she replies, "oh are you making points?" (Or something like that) and goes on to say "all of our points makers have been in today. Where are you going? Do you have any trips planned?"
Sep 25, 2014, 2:07 pm
#398
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: SFO/SJC
Programs: MR,UR, UA, BA, AA, Hotels
Posts: 581
I have one local Walmart that still have Kate and I had been loading my GC to BB there but last week something happened, the "Bluebird" function is not available anymore but other functions are ok. Looks like they programmed it that way now
I haven't tried to use the option "Walmart Moneycard", does it function the same way as "Bluebird" option and will allow me to load my GC to BB?
I haven't tried to use the option "Walmart Moneycard", does it function the same way as "Bluebird" option and will allow me to load my GC to BB?
Sep 25, 2014, 2:13 pm
#399
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: a hotel room, somewhere...
Posts: 962
I've been MSing about $25k a month for years, and just now added simon mall GCs into my arsenal, which entails a bit of a trek for me but worth it IMO. Anyway, very first purchase I show up and the girl at the info desk tells me I can buy $20-ish (I'm not listening to this amount) to $500. I ask, "what's the most I can buy? I need thousands". To which she replies, "oh are you making points?" (Or something like that) and goes on to say "all of our points makers have been in today. Where are you going? Do you have any trips planned?"
THIS is why people who have been doing MS for a long time loathe the blogs and newbs who are, ummm, not so bright (i'm not talking about the OP, he's just relaying a story). trust me, even a year ago there was no talk like this in simon malls. MSers were an outlier back then and of the type that knew what they were doing. does anyone really believe it helps the longevity of deals to have such conversations? reading the follow-on comments, apparently, yes.
my 'story' everywhere, as to why i buy cards, is fact based (i DO use the cards for this very legitimate purpose. it's just a small % of the cards i buy), and is believed by everyone because it's plausible and my real business is part of the chit chat. btw, 'points makers'?!? what is she, 9? lolchok dee, folks. my simon ship has sailed. i'm sure all you points maker and BHN will have a long and happy partnership. i'd suggest, perhaps, approaching simon mgmt and/or BHN about some sort of point makers xmas promotion sponsored by mms...
out.
Sep 25, 2014, 2:24 pm
#400
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 226
insert facepalm emoticon.
THIS is why people who have been doing MS for a long time loathe the blogs and newbs who are, ummm, not so bright (i'm not talking about the OP, he's just relaying a story). trust me, even a year ago there was no talk like this in simon malls. MSers were an outlier back then and of the type that knew what they were doing. does anyone really believe it helps the longevity of deals to have such conversations? reading the follow-on comments, apparently, yes. my 'story' everywhere, as to why i buy cards, is fact based (i DO use the cards for this very legitimate purpose. it's just a small % of the cards i buy), and is believed by everyone because it's plausible and my real business is part of the chit chat. btw, 'points makers'?!? what is she, 9? lol
chok dee, folks. my simon ship has sailed. i'm sure all you points maker and BHN will have a long and happy partnership. i'd suggest, perhaps, approaching simon mgmt and/or BHN about some sort of point makers xmas promotion sponsored by mms...
out.
THIS is why people who have been doing MS for a long time loathe the blogs and newbs who are, ummm, not so bright (i'm not talking about the OP, he's just relaying a story). trust me, even a year ago there was no talk like this in simon malls. MSers were an outlier back then and of the type that knew what they were doing. does anyone really believe it helps the longevity of deals to have such conversations? reading the follow-on comments, apparently, yes.
my 'story' everywhere, as to why i buy cards, is fact based (i DO use the cards for this very legitimate purpose. it's just a small % of the cards i buy), and is believed by everyone because it's plausible and my real business is part of the chit chat. btw, 'points makers'?!? what is she, 9? lolchok dee, folks. my simon ship has sailed. i'm sure all you points maker and BHN will have a long and happy partnership. i'd suggest, perhaps, approaching simon mgmt and/or BHN about some sort of point makers xmas promotion sponsored by mms...
out.
Sep 25, 2014, 3:14 pm
#401
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 647
insert facepalm emoticon.
THIS is why people who have been doing MS for a long time loathe the blogs and newbs who are, ummm, not so bright (i'm not talking about the OP, he's just relaying a story). trust me, even a year ago there was no talk like this in simon malls. MSers were an outlier back then and of the type that knew what they were doing. does anyone really believe it helps the longevity of deals to have such conversations? reading the follow-on comments, apparently, yes. my 'story' everywhere, as to why i buy cards, is fact based (i DO use the cards for this very legitimate purpose. it's just a small % of the cards i buy), and is believed by everyone because it's plausible and my real business is part of the chit chat. btw, 'points makers'?!? what is she, 9? lol
chok dee, folks. my simon ship has sailed. i'm sure all you points maker and BHN will have a long and happy partnership. i'd suggest, perhaps, approaching simon mgmt and/or BHN about some sort of point makers xmas promotion sponsored by mms...
out.
THIS is why people who have been doing MS for a long time loathe the blogs and newbs who are, ummm, not so bright (i'm not talking about the OP, he's just relaying a story). trust me, even a year ago there was no talk like this in simon malls. MSers were an outlier back then and of the type that knew what they were doing. does anyone really believe it helps the longevity of deals to have such conversations? reading the follow-on comments, apparently, yes.
my 'story' everywhere, as to why i buy cards, is fact based (i DO use the cards for this very legitimate purpose. it's just a small % of the cards i buy), and is believed by everyone because it's plausible and my real business is part of the chit chat. btw, 'points makers'?!? what is she, 9? lolchok dee, folks. my simon ship has sailed. i'm sure all you points maker and BHN will have a long and happy partnership. i'd suggest, perhaps, approaching simon mgmt and/or BHN about some sort of point makers xmas promotion sponsored by mms...
out.
Sep 25, 2014, 6:43 pm
#402
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 208
insert facepalm emoticon.
THIS is why people who have been doing MS for a long time loathe the blogs and newbs who are, ummm, not so bright (i'm not talking about the OP, he's just relaying a story). trust me, even a year ago there was no talk like this in simon malls. MSers were an outlier back then and of the type that knew what they were doing. does anyone really believe it helps the longevity of deals to have such conversations? reading the follow-on comments, apparently, yes. my 'story' everywhere, as to why i buy cards, is fact based (i DO use the cards for this very legitimate purpose. it's just a small % of the cards i buy), and is believed by everyone because it's plausible and my real business is part of the chit chat. btw, 'points makers'?!? what is she, 9? lol
chok dee, folks. my simon ship has sailed. i'm sure all you points maker and BHN will have a long and happy partnership. i'd suggest, perhaps, approaching simon mgmt and/or BHN about some sort of point makers xmas promotion sponsored by mms...
out.
THIS is why people who have been doing MS for a long time loathe the blogs and newbs who are, ummm, not so bright (i'm not talking about the OP, he's just relaying a story). trust me, even a year ago there was no talk like this in simon malls. MSers were an outlier back then and of the type that knew what they were doing. does anyone really believe it helps the longevity of deals to have such conversations? reading the follow-on comments, apparently, yes.
my 'story' everywhere, as to why i buy cards, is fact based (i DO use the cards for this very legitimate purpose. it's just a small % of the cards i buy), and is believed by everyone because it's plausible and my real business is part of the chit chat. btw, 'points makers'?!? what is she, 9? lolchok dee, folks. my simon ship has sailed. i'm sure all you points maker and BHN will have a long and happy partnership. i'd suggest, perhaps, approaching simon mgmt and/or BHN about some sort of point makers xmas promotion sponsored by mms...
out.
I know these Simon GC were being sold about a decade ago, though that was more of a means to order cubano's via CC that didn't have your name attached to the card. If it has lived that long, BH won't be able to shut it down very quickly.
Sep 26, 2014, 6:47 am
#403
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 35
A data point from SE Wisconsin. The clerk looked through his "process sheet" and informed me that I would need to fill out their form for any purchase of 3K or over. I asked for 2.5K - no problem, no documentation, not even ID. Unloaded 1.5K on BB@Kate yesterday, will do the rest today.
Sep 26, 2014, 7:48 am
#404
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Minnesota
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,101
A data point from SE Wisconsin. The clerk looked through his "process sheet" and informed me that I would need to fill out their form for any purchase of 3K or over. I asked for 2.5K - no problem, no documentation, not even ID. Unloaded 1.5K on BB@Kate yesterday, will do the rest today.