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mile ho Aug 22, 14 6:36 am


Originally Posted by Churnman (Post 23405177)
This is what our big fear is and the reason many of us old timers like things the way they are. Let me sound like an old grumpy geezer: "change is bad most of the time when something worked before." But, maybe we'll find a few silver linings in this change. I can only hope.

Don't know what silver lining you think you might find. I had carte blanche before...

Any way you slice it, this is not good news.

MasterCharge Aug 22, 14 7:47 am


Originally Posted by Churnman (Post 23400368)
I have access to many cards that work at other places for MO, but I need ones that will work on Kate. That is key for me. As long as these stay that way in the future I'll be happy and very happy to get them in other stores as well. We can only hope for now. I liked the way things have been and the somewhat more limited availability depending on location. Once the masses can get them anywhere, that creates other problems but I'll try to stay optimistic and not think too far ahead.

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MasterCharge Aug 23, 14 3:55 pm

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imdeng Aug 24, 14 8:52 pm

Adding another data point - I looked to increase my SVCG purchase yesterday and asked for 5 cards with 500 each. I was expecting some pushback - but instead the person was happy to sell me 5 cards as long as I was paying with CC and not a gift card. Did ask me to fill a form with name/address/DL# - but assured me that it was only a formality - for their own records.

Gave me his card and asked me to tell my friends that they are very friendly at that Simon mall. Strange.

I drained all the cards at my local WM on BB using Kate over two days. I ran into the 2K limit on Kate - so had to make two trips.

Majuki Aug 24, 14 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by imdeng (Post 23418120)
Adding another data point - I looked to increase my SVCG purchase yesterday and asked for 5 cards with 500 each. I was expecting some pushback - but instead the person was happy to sell me 5 cards as long as I was paying with CC and not a gift card. Did ask me to fill a form with name/address/DL# - but assured me that it was only a formality - for their own records.

Gave me his card and asked me to tell my friends that they are very friendly at that Simon mall. Strange.

I drained all the cards at my local WM on BB using Kate over two days. I ran into the 2K limit on Kate - so had to make two trips.

The form is no big deal. I asked out of curiosity what the maximum daily amount was, and the customer service folks have always said $3,000. I've always used a credit card, so it's YMMV with gift cards.

I recently moved, but I had a good relationship with the people at my local mall before I did. They even had my number on file because their system would go down every once in awhile, and they would call me when it came back up. :D It's only 1x, but it's still the cheapest game in town if you're looking for meeting a minimum spending target, doing Evolve payments, etc. ^

imdeng Aug 24, 14 10:09 pm

Assuming SPG Amex and no-cost drain (BB for example) - it costs $2.95 for 503 SPG points - or $12.57 assuming 2.5 cents value per SPG point. So a net gain of $9.62. Assuming monthly volume of 10K, thats $192.48 per month.

If the drain has a fee (e.g. 70 cents for Kate MO), then a 10K monthly volume nets $178.48.

Using both the channels above, a 20K monthly volume gives net benefit of $370.95 per month. Its not a bad outcome but once you count the cost of gas, your time and other hassles, I really wonder whether it is worth the effort other than for meeting hard-to-reach min. spend requirements.


Originally Posted by Majuki (Post 23418275)
It's only 1x, but it's still the cheapest game in town if you're looking for meeting a minimum spending target, doing Evolve payments, etc. ^


Majuki Aug 24, 14 10:17 pm


Originally Posted by imdeng (Post 23418386)
Using both the channels above, a 20K monthly volume gives net benefit of $370.95 per month. Its not a bad outcome but once you count the cost of gas, your time and other hassles, I really wonder whether it is worth the effort other than for meeting hard-to-reach min. spend requirements.

My wife constantly questions my obsession of collecting miles and points. :D I happened to live down the street from a Simon property that I would pass by multiple times per day, so it really was never a deviation for me. As I said, it's not 5x, but it's not a bad route to go if you need to meet a spending requirement or want to do Evolve payments if you don't have another easy source of VGCs.

chener Aug 25, 14 2:29 pm

Any one notice that SMVGCs not available on their web site today?

MasterCharge Aug 25, 14 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by chener (Post 23422110)
Any one notice that SMVGCs not available on their web site today?

nope :p

chener Aug 25, 14 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by MasterCharge (Post 23422212)
nope :p

Thanks- it looks like it was only a temporary glitch...

satman40 Aug 25, 14 8:30 pm

They are switching Thursday to a new card, my understanding the pin is still good to go.

The guy in front of me today purchased 60 cards, 500 each,

I purchased my usual,amount.

The counter girl said nothing, been a good game...

carlitos Aug 25, 14 8:41 pm


Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 23399685)
Has anyone tried the Aventura Mall by Simon Mall MCGC from Sunrise Bank? They seem to be very good at accepting CC to buy them. Many International Latin-Americans paying with foreign cards (Forex and Int Fees). With $2.95 Activation for $500, it seems like a better option versus WD VGC. Well, I will go ahead a try one to see if Kate likes it or MO s can be issued at the MC

Well, worked perfectly. Kate loved the MCGCs and because Aventura has a special deal with MC, I do not think they are going to change the GC any time soon. So good thing they are NOT Metabanks.

sechs Aug 25, 14 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by carlitos (Post 23423805)
Well, worked perfectly. Kate loved the MCGCs and because Aventura has a special deal with MC, I do not think they are going to change the GC any time soon. So good thing they are NOT Metabanks.

Aventura Mall is controlled by Turnberry Associates, not Simon, so this was never in doubt.

MasterCharge Aug 25, 14 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by satman40 (Post 23423762)
They are switching Thursday to a new card, my understanding the pin is still good to go.

The guy in front of me today purchased 60 cards, 500 each,

I purchased my usual,amount.

The counter girl said nothing, been a good game...

I dont believe it, 30K? by any change did you see what card he used to pay with?

bu08usc11 Aug 25, 14 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by MasterCharge (Post 23424217)
I dont believe it, 30K? by any change did you see what card he used to pay with?

That amount is not abnormal. ;)


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