Old Jan 8, 2014, 2:22 pm
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Bonus category spending is now capped at $50k per year for new accounts. For now, this does not apply to existing cardholders, although Amex may continue to close accounts for excessive spend in bonus categories. This card is less viable as an MS instrument. Consider factors that may have led to these closures when sharing personal experiences.

Oct 22, 2014 onwards: Many people getting cancellation email from Amex. As of Dec 13, 2014, shutdown reports continue. Shutdowns appear to be triggered by spending on the card or upon statement closure, but not always

Some who have been shutdown are reporting back that AMEX is declining new non-OBC card applications due to "unsatisfactory relationship". (However, see here for an example where reconsideration was successful.) It is unclear at this time the length/extent of this Adverse Action/Ban.

Others have succeeded in getting new cards, including new OBCs, but consider your relationship with Amex and how much you value that and this card when deciding how to use it.

There might be some impact with other issuers. If AMEX sends you a cancellation it goes on your record as a cancellation by AMEX, not a cancellation by cardholder. While FICO score does not distinguish between closed by issuer and closed by cardholder, on manual review it may raise questions. However, issuers close cards for benign reasons as well (such as non-use) so unless several cards have been closed it probably won't cause a rejection by itself.

So, if you still feel it is worth it:
Application Link: Copy & paste the following link into a incognito window in Chrome or InPrivate Browsing in IE, Private Session in Firefox. There have been reports of people who got the card in the last couple of months getting shut down because of the rush to spend the initial $6,500.

Do NOT post "Link isn't working" until you have tried it incognito/private browsing and it fails there.

Code:
https://www304.americanexpress.com/credit-card/blue-cash/25330


Up to 5% Cash Back at U.S. supermarkets, U.S. gas stations & select U.S. drugstores (Everyday Purchases). Up to 1% Cash Back on other purchases. For your first $6,500ą spend in a reward year˛, you will earn 1% on Everyday Purchasesł (5% after 6500), and 0.5% on other purchases (then 1%).

0% intro APR on purchases and balance transfers for 15 months.

Eligible purchases do NOT include fees or interest charges, balance transfers, cash advances, purchases of travelers checks, purchases or reloading of prepaid cards, or purchases of other cash equivalents. Additional terms and restrictions apply. (Presume these T&Cs are standard and that all credit cards state this)

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ą First '$6,500' is spend on all purchases.

˛ 'Reward year' is the 12 billing periods in a row beginning with the one in which the anniversary of your Card Account occurs.

ł 'everyday purchases' refers to U.S. supermarkets, U.S. gas stations & select U.S. drugstores, not all purchases.

* Read the fine print for 'gas' purchases! Right from AMEX T&C's:
...Everyday Purchases are: ... $400 or less of gasoline at gas stations located in the U.S. (superstores, supermarkets and warehouse clubs that sell gasoline are not considered gas stations)... A >$400 purchase at a gas station will get 5% for the first $400 and 1% thereafter. E.g., for something, say, $503.95, you would earn $21.04 CB [($400*5%)+(103.95*1%)].

5% kicks in immediately after hitting $6500.(mid-statement). In fact, it will even kick in mid-purchase and a portion of the purchase will credit at the higher rate.

* Reward dollars for the previous statement period show up a day or two after the current statement period closes.

* Most cash back redemptions will be applied to your statement within 2–3 days.

* Helpful post regarding moving CL between cards. Thanks lad2

* How to Visually Distinguish the Three Types of Blue Cash Cards:
Blue Cash (old) has a "<" character to the left of the word CASH
Blue Cash Everyday has a circle to the right of the word CASH, with the "Everyday" wording at the back.
Blue Cash Preferred has the word PREFERRED printed vertically on the extreme left side.

If you get the error message "You cannot be logged in. Please contact the number on the back of your card." when trying to redeem Reward Dollars online, it may be because you have too many closed accounts still showing in your scrolling images of cards. Delete the closed ones, then try to redeem again.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by trippinbilly
Well they didn't let me convert back to BC from BCP. I converted it a few years ago from BC and it was a pretty good deal, until they put the $6000 cap on grocery stores. I was told I could apply for it though.
Yes, the original BCP was nearly the best of both worlds, no initial low-rate period and no cap. (And there are other 5% cards for gas). No drug store for VR etc, but with a small loss, V/MC gift cards at supermarkets can substitute.

But those days have gone....
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 11:58 am
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I just got an instant approval for this card even though I got my BCP back in Sep, 2013. I'm wondering if anyone try to load Serve at CVS with this card? Or it's just better to buy VR directly? TIA!
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 12:01 pm
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Originally Posted by babehwa
I just got an instant approval for this card even though I got my BCP back in Sep, 2013. !
I think it is clear to all that you can have this card along with a BCP/BCE (and presumably BS, BSP!).

The difference that we have seen is that some people have been able to PC their BCX card into the Blue Cash, and others (including me) were told that that wasn't possible and we had to apply.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 12:20 pm
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data point: I have an BCE from July 2013. I had meant to apply for BCP but accidently applied for BCE, was so pissed.

Applied today for old amex blue and got instant approval.. redeemed myself from the blunder last summer.

I don't know of the limits yet. BCE has a limit of 8k and that's my first card with amex. Hoping to get something more substantial. Thanks everybody for sharing their knowledge.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by silver6054
I think it is clear to all that you can have this card along with a BCP/BCE (and presumably BS, BSP!).

The difference that we have seen is that some people have been able to PC their BCX card into the Blue Cash, and others (including me) were told that that wasn't possible and we had to apply.
I actually tried to call the number on my BCP first to check the possibility of PC, but was told only BCE showed up in the system. Was also given another number to call for application, 877-253-8258. Decided to do it online & got the instant approval. Considering the 5% cash back after $6500 & $0 AF, this is totally worth it for another hard pull!
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 2:46 pm
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Got instant approval on my wife's application. Now to switch mine to BCE, from BCP, so I don't have to pay annual fees.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 4:12 pm
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I expect to receive the card in the next few days. And now wondering what is the best (= sort of safe) way to meet the $6,500 spend? I was thinking of Amex gift cards through TCB for most and maybe VR for the rest. Or is it best just to get the VR, to set my future spending pattern? Haven't done MS on Amex before.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 4:49 pm
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I would think this card will be on borrowed time, once MS'ers start hitting this card big time I think it will prompt Amex to change the reward structure.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by silver6054
I expect to receive the card in the next few days. And now wondering what is the best (= sort of safe) way to meet the $6,500 spend? I was thinking of Amex gift cards through TCB for most and maybe VR for the rest. Or is it best just to get the VR, to set my future spending pattern? Haven't done MS on Amex before.
I've been buying reloads with my SPG. I plan to do the same with Blue. It will be slow at first to establish the spending pattern. I also don't plan on maxing the card out and prepaying before the cycle ends. I will just spend about 50% of my limit and repeat till I get my 61 day CLI. I only plan to churn till I get to my $6500 spending requirement.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by rtwvagabond
I would think this card will be on borrowed time, once MS'ers start hitting this card big time I think it will prompt Amex to change the reward structure.
and unless they do it correctly, it becomes a legal matter
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man
and unless they do it correctly, it becomes a legal matter
Well, judging by what they did on the BCP, they know how to do it. Just give notice and cap (or remove drug store 5x or similar). So long as that don't confiscate points!
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 5:08 pm
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Well, judging by what they did on the BCP, they know how to do it. Just give notice and cap (or remove drug store 5x or similar). So long as that don't confiscate points!
yes

and if that is what they do then one would have no prob with it. It would be a bummer but would be the right way for them to go about it.

lets hope we last a while tho before this happens.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man
yes

and if that is what they do then one would have no prob with it. It would be a bummer but would be the right way for them to go about it.

lets hope we last a while tho before this happens.
If I'm not mistaken Hilton Amex cards were notified in January '13 statements that drug stores were going away on May '13 statement dates. Plenty of notice to earn (pre-devaluation!) 6x HHonors.

Re: MS on Amex, I've never had a problem with any of my Delta Plat cards. Of course they could evaluate each card separately for profitability, but it's not theoretically impossible to MS 25k/50k on Amex. YMMV.
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 10:24 pm
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just dont to nuts! slow and steady
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Old Jan 5, 2014, 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by jeam3130
just dont to nuts! slow and steady
Depends upon the CL

one person's Nuts is another person's peanuts.
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