Proposal and Discussion: Limit the MS thread access
#467
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2002
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At base, the idea is selfish and exclusionary, no matter how you phrase it or how you scale the "in the know" zone.
#468
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On February 29, 2012, Talkboard failed to pass 5-4:
"The TalkBoard would like to reduce visibility of perishable Mileage Run Deals content to search engines and non-members of FlyerTalk, therefore:
The TalkBoard recommends that, beginning 30 days from the completion of this vote, the Mileage Run Deals forum and its sub-forum Mileage Run Discussion be masked from users who are not registered and logged in."
"The TalkBoard would like to reduce visibility of perishable Mileage Run Deals content to search engines and non-members of FlyerTalk, therefore:
The TalkBoard recommends that, beginning 30 days from the completion of this vote, the Mileage Run Deals forum and its sub-forum Mileage Run Discussion be masked from users who are not registered and logged in."
Reading some of the past discussion on restrictions for this forum, though, you really do have a wide range of viewpoints. You're at the low end just asking for users to log in, while others are at much higher ends wanting 180 days/180 posts or even an advanced forum with some entry criteria ranging from a quiz to a selection committee. Others don't want any restrictions at all. When it comes down to voting, the Talk Board really can't address all those viewpoints in one single motion, and that's probably why there hasn't been a motion voted on so far.
#470
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: Northwest, United
Posts: 3,256
DO NOT move this thread. I want to start a discussion, and OBC was the final straw.
Seriously, why is this subforum still open for the world to see? At the very least it should be a private forum that is not indexed and not searchable by search engines.
Can the mods explain why this forum is still open? Who is in charge of this forum?
I'm sick and tired of seeing deals killed!!!
Please no discussion about who is at fault for the recent incident, I just want a good reason why this subforum is still open.
Others please feel free to "cast" your vote. Should this subforum be closed off from the public?
Seriously, why is this subforum still open for the world to see? At the very least it should be a private forum that is not indexed and not searchable by search engines.
Can the mods explain why this forum is still open? Who is in charge of this forum?
I'm sick and tired of seeing deals killed!!!
Please no discussion about who is at fault for the recent incident, I just want a good reason why this subforum is still open.
Others please feel free to "cast" your vote. Should this subforum be closed off from the public?
#471
Join Date: Jun 2011
Programs: DL, Amex MR
Posts: 287
Please point out this "beating the drums". I don't see any. Someone who jumps directly into hyperbole is not someone others will listen to.
You also confuse correlation with causation. You don't actually have a clue why AmEx shut people down. All you have is speculation.
You also confuse correlation with causation. You don't actually have a clue why AmEx shut people down. All you have is speculation.
#472
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There's been a couple 6-3 motions that have passed when all the members voted which would be 2/3. I don't know what they need if someone fails to vote or abstains. All the votes are on line here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...decisions-605/
#473
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Talkboard elections: applications for candidates open thru Nov 8
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Are you aware that we have a Talkboard? Ths is a member elected group who help guide the course of FlyerTalk. They provide a Townhall election so that all members can express their opinions about how FlyerTalk can be improved. Learn more here:
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Would you like to participate? Applications will be taken until 8pm PST, Sat, Nov 8.
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#474
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Have to admit that I didn't read the entire Fred but I feel like throwing my two cents in anyway. IMHO this whole discussion is nonsense. I see ppl on one side complaining about everything, blogs, boards etc. since they want to keep all the knowledge to themselves.
On the other hand there are ppl like me who discovered this hobby just recently and value the great input one can get from the aforementioned blogs, boards. I wonder how the "keepers" got into this game in the first place. Did they all figure these methods out by themselves? Without stumbling upon it during an unrelated Google search? Unlikely!
Why do these same ppl who dread the board keep on posting every single day and inflate the number of posts and responses? This is why News outlets discover these Freds. You can read about MS on Fox business and everywhere. You can't reverse history. Many tried, never worked!
The way I see it the only terminal way to put a stop to MS is the financial institutions by cutting cashback rates or putting caps on their payouts. Ever wondered why Chase Freedom or Discover it are barely mentioned when it comes to MS? Or the Sallie Mae card - wonderful for "normal" ppl but useless for our intentions.
Also airlines could further devalue their loyalty/miles programs. But I'm almost positive that these guys make a lot of money from folks who can't play this game. There may be a couple thousand folks like us in the nation but there are millions who lose out on those deals and they're the ones paying our rewards dollars or miles with their sky-high fees and interest rates.
*cowering and waiting for the first stones to fly in*
On the other hand there are ppl like me who discovered this hobby just recently and value the great input one can get from the aforementioned blogs, boards. I wonder how the "keepers" got into this game in the first place. Did they all figure these methods out by themselves? Without stumbling upon it during an unrelated Google search? Unlikely!
Why do these same ppl who dread the board keep on posting every single day and inflate the number of posts and responses? This is why News outlets discover these Freds. You can read about MS on Fox business and everywhere. You can't reverse history. Many tried, never worked!
The way I see it the only terminal way to put a stop to MS is the financial institutions by cutting cashback rates or putting caps on their payouts. Ever wondered why Chase Freedom or Discover it are barely mentioned when it comes to MS? Or the Sallie Mae card - wonderful for "normal" ppl but useless for our intentions.
Also airlines could further devalue their loyalty/miles programs. But I'm almost positive that these guys make a lot of money from folks who can't play this game. There may be a couple thousand folks like us in the nation but there are millions who lose out on those deals and they're the ones paying our rewards dollars or miles with their sky-high fees and interest rates.
*cowering and waiting for the first stones to fly in*
#476
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Have to admit that I didn't read the entire Fred but I feel like throwing my two cents in anyway. IMHO this whole discussion is nonsense. I see ppl on one side complaining about everything, blogs, boards etc. since they want to keep all the knowledge to themselves.
On the other hand there are ppl like me who discovered this hobby just recently and value the great input one can get from the aforementioned blogs, boards. I wonder how the "keepers" got into this game in the first place. Did they all figure these methods out by themselves? Without stumbling upon it during an unrelated Google search? Unlikely!
Why do these same ppl who dread the board keep on posting every single day and inflate the number of posts and responses? This is why News outlets discover these Freds. You can read about MS on Fox business and everywhere. You can't reverse history. Many tried, never worked!
The way I see it the only terminal way to put a stop to MS is the financial institutions by cutting cashback rates or putting caps on their payouts. Ever wondered why Chase Freedom or Discover it are barely mentioned when it comes to MS? Or the Sallie Mae card - wonderful for "normal" ppl but useless for our intentions.
Also airlines could further devalue their loyalty/miles programs. But I'm almost positive that these guys make a lot of money from folks who can't play this game. There may be a couple thousand folks like us in the nation but there are millions who lose out on those deals and they're the ones paying our rewards dollars or miles with their sky-high fees and interest rates.
*cowering and waiting for the first stones to fly in*
On the other hand there are ppl like me who discovered this hobby just recently and value the great input one can get from the aforementioned blogs, boards. I wonder how the "keepers" got into this game in the first place. Did they all figure these methods out by themselves? Without stumbling upon it during an unrelated Google search? Unlikely!
Why do these same ppl who dread the board keep on posting every single day and inflate the number of posts and responses? This is why News outlets discover these Freds. You can read about MS on Fox business and everywhere. You can't reverse history. Many tried, never worked!
The way I see it the only terminal way to put a stop to MS is the financial institutions by cutting cashback rates or putting caps on their payouts. Ever wondered why Chase Freedom or Discover it are barely mentioned when it comes to MS? Or the Sallie Mae card - wonderful for "normal" ppl but useless for our intentions.
Also airlines could further devalue their loyalty/miles programs. But I'm almost positive that these guys make a lot of money from folks who can't play this game. There may be a couple thousand folks like us in the nation but there are millions who lose out on those deals and they're the ones paying our rewards dollars or miles with their sky-high fees and interest rates.
*cowering and waiting for the first stones to fly in*
#477
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Posts: 252
Restricting things to the date first joined also doesn't make sense because you could have someone who joined 5 years ago who visits the boards once a year and doesn't really provide any input, while you could have someone who joined last month actually contributing on a day to day basis.
I don't agree that all people who joined recently are newbies. I've lurked this forum for years and just never registered because I had nothing to say. It's posts like this that encouraged me to make an account to "establish" myself. But that in itself is silly in my opinion.