Tip for Buying reloadit with CC
Jan 19, 2015, 2:58 pm
#91
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 253
And even if this was not the case, you almost certainly would be looking at a ban from the store or perhaps all of the chain's stores. Since these are private property and you would be on specific notice that your presence is not authorized, stepping into the store at a future date would likely be classified as defiant trespassing (a more significant crime then simple trespassing).
Why would anyone take such a stupid risk?
Jan 19, 2015, 4:11 pm
#92
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 93
Tip for Buying reloadit with CC
It's an interesting legal question because the card states that it has no value and the definition of larceny includes a statement of the value of the property in issue e.g. under a certain amount it is considered petit larceny and higher amounts comprise different degrees of grand larceny. Certain items such as firearms, checks, vehicles and anhydrous ammonia have defined values by statute. Even credit and debit cards are assigned values for these purposes. But these cards specifically state that they are of no value until activated. That is the reason for my question. Imagine a law enforcement officer attempting to charge an individual with stealing something that is clearly labeled "of no value". Could he or she?
Jan 19, 2015, 4:28 pm
#93
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
It's an interesting legal question because the card states that it has no value and the definition of larceny includes a statement of the value of the property in issue e.g. under a certain amount it is considered petit larceny and higher amounts comprise different degrees of grand larceny. Certain items such as firearms, checks, vehicles and anhydrous ammonia have defined values by statute. Even credit and debit cards are assigned values for these purposes. But these cards specifically state that they are of no value until activated. That is the reason for my question. Imagine a law enforcement officer attempting to charge an individual with stealing something that is clearly labeled "of no value". Could he or she?
Jan 19, 2015, 4:28 pm
#94
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SFO/DTW
Programs: DL PM 0.5MM, Hyatt Globalist, HHonors Gold, SPG Plat, Marriott Gold, Avis PC, National EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,988
It's an interesting legal question because the card states that it has no value and the definition of larceny includes a statement of the value of the property in issue e.g. under a certain amount it is considered petit larceny and higher amounts comprise different degrees of grand larceny. Certain items such as firearms, checks, vehicles and anhydrous ammonia have defined values by statute. Even credit and debit cards are assigned values for these purposes. But these cards specifically state that they are of no value until activated. That is the reason for my question. Imagine a law enforcement officer attempting to charge an individual with stealing something that is clearly labeled "of no value". Could he or she?
Jan 19, 2015, 4:35 pm
#95
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 31
It's an interesting legal question because the card states that it has no value and the definition of larceny includes a statement of the value of the property in issue e.g. under a certain amount it is considered petit larceny and higher amounts comprise different degrees of grand larceny. Certain items such as firearms, checks, vehicles and anhydrous ammonia have defined values by statute. Even credit and debit cards are assigned values for these purposes. But these cards specifically state that they are of no value until activated. That is the reason for my question. Imagine a law enforcement officer attempting to charge an individual with stealing something that is clearly labeled "of no value". Could he or she?
Jan 19, 2015, 6:43 pm
#98
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
You wouldn't win. It's textbook larceny. But there probably wouldn't even be a case because you would drop a thousand dollars to hire a lawyer, cover the court fees and and go on a diversion program in lieu of having a criminal record, which you would definitely have if it went to a trial.
Jan 19, 2015, 8:14 pm
#100
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,504
I am surprised as well at what MS does to people. It just screams desperation IMO. I love how the quote of "No cash value until activated" is being used as the argument to be able to steal those cards for free. All that statement means is that if the GC states its a $200 VGC, $200 won't be available until the card is purchased. It doesn't scream that the VGC can be taken for free from stores since it is worth "zero".
Jan 19, 2015, 8:44 pm
#101
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 342
The theft issue might be moot now. Tried to purchase the last few 950s tonight and the machine threw the error "item not found". Proceeded to purchase 500s without issue. It looks like the 950s may already be obsoleted even if stock remains.
This was at a friendly S.way where I've been buying 950s since the gray days.
This was at a friendly S.way where I've been buying 950s since the gray days.
Jan 19, 2015, 10:48 pm
#102
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 503
The theft issue might be moot now. Tried to purchase the last few 950s tonight and the machine threw the error "item not found". Proceeded to purchase 500s without issue. It looks like the 950s may already be obsoleted even if stock remains.
This was at a friendly S.way where I've been buying 950s since the gray days.
This was at a friendly S.way where I've been buying 950s since the gray days.
Jan 20, 2015, 11:20 am
#104
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: CRP
Programs: UA 1K and 1MM, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 300
Went to a friendly Vons last night and none of the 950s would register when scanned. Manager tried a bunch of them and couldn't get any of them to work. Sounds like they've maybe been disabled. Didn't try the 500s, but I'll go back this evening and try.
