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Old Jun 22, 2013, 10:42 am
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There is a new thread for 2017: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manufactured-spending/1819569-pin-available-now-visa-mc-prepaid-debit-cards-2017-a.html

Federal Reserve interpretation of Dodd-Frank financial reform regulations has resulted in Visa/MC gift cards getting PINs as of April 1, 2013.


Setting PINS
  • MetaBank VISA or Sunrise VISA -use the last four digits of the card number (or to set personal PIN call 888-524-1283)
  • US Bank VISA and Mastercard - Newer cards come with a PIN printed on cardstock inside the package. To set/reset PIN, call 866-952-5653. One person reports: VISA that has pre-set PIN locks PIN on first use if not previously reset; always call to set PIN before use. If you forget to reset the pin and you can't unload the funds to your BB, call the toll free # and ask rep. to "reset" the card and they will do some magic and you should then be able to unload the funds at WM.
  • Vanilla VISA and OneVanilla(not MyVanilla, etc) - selection of 4 digits on the first transaction becomes the PIN

At Walmat, many MCs default to credit(and fail) and require pressing a button to change the payment type to debit. Here are the workarounds:

Old POS systems (monochrome black on green terminals and replacement color terminals):
1a. Screen shows "Insert or Swipe Card Quickly" with "Espanol" button in lower right (note if your screen blinks)
1b. Swipe card
1c. Screen shows "Waiting for cashier..." with with working animation in lower center and "Cancel" button in lower right
2. Press "Cancel" on the screen or red button on pad (if your screen blinks, do not hit button until after blink)
3. Press "ATM/DEBIT" from upper left
4. Press "No Cash Back"
5a. Enter PIN
5b. Screen shows "Waiting for cashier..."
6. Cashier hits blue (not green) Debit button on their side.

New POS systems (color terminal):
1. Swipe GC
2. Press "Change Payment" on screen (Yellow button on pad should also work, but screen works better for some. Timing is critical.)
3. Press "DEBIT"
4. Press "No Cash Back"
5. Enter PIN - Screen showing another 'Waiting for cashier...'.
6. Ask Cashier to hit blue color Debit button on the screen

When splitting transactions among multiple cards at a Walmart register, make sure to have the cashier hit the debit button on their physical keypad. If they hit the debit button on the touchscreen, it will not work. If your transaction got declined, try having the cashier hit 'Debit' using the physical keypad on the right of the screen.

As of 6/19/2014, Walmart rejects Debit attempts above $49.99 on all cards issued by InComm/ITC Financial Services, namely all Vanilla VISA and OneVanilla. There is no workaround.


Error Messages
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Not enough funds available to cover whatever amount was typed in, or most likely NOT typed in.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again.
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Old May 25, 2013, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by Aerosfire
I had the exact same problem today. Tried 2 walmarts with no luck.

Edit: tried both the register and machine.
+1 here too. I had just come from a failed try at USPS too. Hopefully a temp issue
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Old May 25, 2013, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
+1 here too. I had just come from a failed try at USPS too. Hopefully a temp issue
Hmm. I have $5k already lined up for next month. Really hope it's a temp issue
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Old May 25, 2013, 11:03 am
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Im pretty sure usps codes a mo purchase as cash and most pin gcs dont work for cash
Get your mos elsewhere
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Old May 25, 2013, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man
Im pretty sure usps codes a mo purchase as cash and most pin gcs dont work for cash
Get your mos elsewhere
Yeah I remembered that when I was leaving. I was actually there for a reason and the lady asked if I wanted any stamps or money orders. Like a dog chasing a ball I just couldn't help myself
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Old May 25, 2013, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
Yeah I remembered that when I was leaving. I was actually there for a reason and the lady asked if I wanted any stamps or money orders. Like a dog chasing a ball I just couldn't help myself
Hilarious! I wish I could say that it's never happened to me, but then I think back to how many failed attempts it took me before I would accept that Walgreens doesn't sell VR via cc any more...
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Old May 25, 2013, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by thegasguru
Hilarious! I wish I could say that it's never happened to me, but then I think back to how many failed attempts it took me before I would accept that Walgreens doesn't sell VR via cc any more...
I'm STILL trying...
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Old May 25, 2013, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by FederalFlyer
Today I went to WM to load my BB via a PIN-enabled GC as I have done countless times before. After swiping the GC and entering the PIN, the screen displayed "APPROVED"... yet then printed out a receipt saying "DEBIT NOT APPROVED HOST TIMEOUT"

I tried using different GCs, all with the same result.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Or ideas what it might mean?

Thanks.
Anyone with an update to this? I need to add some money today, but don't want to head back out to a WM if it's still not working.
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Old May 25, 2013, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by FederalFlyer
yet then printed out a receipt saying "DEBIT NOT APPROVED HOST TIMEOUT"
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Old May 25, 2013, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades
giftcardmall is doing maintenance
Where did that come from? Any idea when the system might be back up?

I think the problem might be more than that, because I had the same problem with non-GCM cards.
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Old May 25, 2013, 6:06 pm
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Can we please keep the posts to info that hasn't already been stated. It seems the error messages are similar. Unless you have a new development please stop extending the length of this thread. Check your BB loads. Check that you have the right pin number. If and only if those things have been met post data points.
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Old May 25, 2013, 6:11 pm
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I loaded 2 Chase GC at the kiosk at Walmart, ~3pm eastern with no problems.
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Old May 25, 2013, 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by ricohitman
Can we please keep the posts to info that hasn't already been stated. It seems the error messages are similar. Unless you have a new development please stop extending the length of this thread. Check your BB loads. Check that you have the right pin number. If and only if those things have been met post data points.
holy smokes sounds like there's a new sheriff in town. whatever you say boss
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Old May 25, 2013, 10:40 pm
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
holy smokes sounds like there's a new sheriff in town. whatever you say boss
I'm just tired of reading the same type of posts about error messages when they don't mean anything...

I guess I could just stop following this thread, but their sometimes are useful posts that come through...

Just trying to add some sanity to this very long thread.
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Old May 25, 2013, 11:00 pm
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Originally Posted by arsenalman
Right now i am paying about ~0.0075 per mile using VRs to fund BB. What is the lowest cost you guys are coming up with on a per mile basis (which card and what product are you using to achieve this)?
Granted, I'm on a fairly small sample size right now (started in earnest in April and have only done about 11k in spend), but for the ~18k miles I have racked up I am running at -0.068 cpm. No, that is not a typo. It is negative and that is cpm (i.e. I didn't miss a factor of 100). This is mainly due to the recent GC coupons at Vons/Safeway where they have been paying me to take money off their hands Using a UA MP card that earns 2x at grocery stores. Mixture of Visa/MC GCs (grocery and Chase), VR, and Amex GCs into BB, AP, MO, and as of today, TGT Amex.
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Old May 25, 2013, 11:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ricohitman
I'm just tired of reading the same type of posts about error messages when they don't mean anything...

I guess I could just stop following this thread, but their sometimes are useful posts that come through...

Just trying to add some sanity to this very long thread.
First off this thread isn't about you... So please get over yourself.
Second, this thread is very long and info get's buried so instead of reading hundreds of post it is easier for someone to just ask a question.
Lastly, this thread isn't about you, so please get over yourself.
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