Funding new bank/CU account(s) with a credit card - Postmortem
Mar 11, 2013, 6:50 am
#77
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The specific CU was leaked on FWF, and many members have accounts both at FWF and FT. I didn't leak it. Don't act like I did. Also, another thread was created here (and since, has been merged with mine) regarding the exact CU I'm speaking of. Don't pin this on me, Mr. High and Mighty.
ETA: On top of the above, which I strongly stand by what I said, everyone keeps saying that this type of discussion should be had via PM. Honestly, how selfish can people be? What, is there some elite group of flyertalk membership that I'm supposed to PM? I don't know people here enough to know whether or not to discuss this type of thing with. Those of you who believe that this should be discussed via PM should, perhaps, rethink the concept of a forum. Especially one that promotes discussion about being frugal and/or exploiting credit cards, reward programs, and the like. Absolutely pathetic.
Mar 11, 2013, 6:59 am
#79
Join Date: Mar 2011
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ETA: On top of the above, which I strongly stand by what I said, everyone keeps saying that this type of discussion should be had via PM. Honestly, how selfish can people be? What, is there some elite group of flyertalk membership that I'm supposed to PM? I don't know people here enough to know whether or not to discuss this type of thing with. Those of you who believe that this should be discussed via PM should, perhaps, rethink the concept of a forum. Especially one that promotes discussion about being frugal and/or exploiting credit cards, reward programs, and the like. Absolutely pathetic.
Mar 11, 2013, 7:03 am
#80
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It definitely seems that PMs are the way things are going because noobies and others constantly exploit them to the max right from the start. With many of these things it's better to go slowly, which more experience people understand. I'm not in the "elite group" either, but I certainly understand and respect why they keep information away from the public forums.
Mar 11, 2013, 7:06 am
#82
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How am I supposed to know that someone has a sensitive deal? If they don't post about it, am I just supposed to PM random people asking if they know of exploits? Seems counter-intuitive for a forum atmosphere.
Mar 11, 2013, 7:09 am
#83
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Because when it is shared with the community it is subsequently killed because so many people try to get in on it. An exploit can survive for a long time with 500 people are aware of it and don't max it out right from the start. When 50,000 people become aware of it through FT, SD, FW, etc and subsequently exploit it to the max right from the start, the bank/hotel/airline/etc will notice and close the exploit.
Mar 11, 2013, 7:12 am
#84
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Because when it is shared with the community it is subsequently killed because so many people try to get in on it. An exploit can survive for a long time with 500 people are aware of it and don't max it out right from the start. When 50,000 people become aware of it through FT, SD, FW, etc and subsequently exploit it to the max right from the start, the bank/hotel/airline/etc will notice and close the exploit.
It's sad that people are trying to justify this behavior. I know, damn well, that the FT staff agrees with me, too. This type of discussion (my original topic) is what FT thrives on, and its own members are trying to steer FT away from that concept of community sharing.
Mar 11, 2013, 7:16 am
#85
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Okay, now, multiply those people by thousands and gather them in one place. Now share with them something you know that if you share it with them all those people will likely pull stupid moves and ruin the thing you shared with them.
Seem productive now?
Mar 11, 2013, 7:18 am
#86
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Try to imagine for a moment someone less intelligent than you. Are you there yet?
Okay, now, multiply those people by thousands and gather them in one place. Now share with them something you know that if you share it with them all those people will likely pull stupid moves and ruin the thing you shared with them.
Seem productive now?
Okay, now, multiply those people by thousands and gather them in one place. Now share with them something you know that if you share it with them all those people will likely pull stupid moves and ruin the thing you shared with them.
Seem productive now?
Do you realize how you sound? From that one post, alone?
Mar 11, 2013, 7:20 am
#88
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I understand the logic, but this isn't the place for that. When you have a forum of many thousands of members, the point is to share information with them. Not just some group of "500" elite people. If those people only want to share amongst themselves, they can go create their own, private, site and talk there like they're members of an exclusive club.
It's sad that people are trying to justify this behavior. I know, damn well, that the FT staff agrees with me, too. This type of discussion (my original topic) is what FT thrives on, and its own members are trying to steer FT away from that concept of community sharing.
It's sad that people are trying to justify this behavior. I know, damn well, that the FT staff agrees with me, too. This type of discussion (my original topic) is what FT thrives on, and its own members are trying to steer FT away from that concept of community sharing.
Mar 11, 2013, 7:21 am
#89
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I understand the logic, but this isn't the place for that. When you have a forum of many thousands of members, the point is to share information with them. Not just some group of "500" elite people. If those people only want to share amongst themselves, they can go create their own, private, site and talk there like they're members of an exclusive club.
It's sad that people are trying to justify this behavior. I know, damn well, that the FT staff agrees with me, too. This is what FT thrives on, and its own members are trying to steer FT away from that concept of community sharing.
It's sad that people are trying to justify this behavior. I know, damn well, that the FT staff agrees with me, too. This is what FT thrives on, and its own members are trying to steer FT away from that concept of community sharing.
Deals stay alive when the people who know about them are sensible enough to keep them alive. It's not too difficult to filter out people who will kill the deal by exercising some reasonable discretion -- things like using hints rather than spelling out the details and using PMs. Nobody's born as a member of any elite group -- it's just networking of people who demonstrate sensibility with regard to sensitive deals.