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Old Oct 25, 2013, 7:07 pm
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UPDATE 01/17/15

BeFrugal: 1.5%
Big Crumbs: 0.9%
TopCashBack: 1.5%


For other cash back or airline portals, check here: http://www.cashbackmonitor.com/Cashb...erican+express

Public Service Announcement: Do NOT use fee-free codes if you want portal cashback / miles. CB/Miles will post and then be clawed back.

FAQ

Will it post as a cash advance (CA)?

Citi - Yes.

Cards from Chase, BoA, FIA, Barclay, AMEX, CapitalOne, US Bank, Discover, HSBC, etc., have posted as purchase. PNC Visa Cashbuilder - posts as purchase but does not earn CC rewards

Note: Some issuers (Discover, US Bank, etc.) will decline the authorization if it exceeds your CA limit. This does NOT mean it will post as CA. It simply means you need to lower the purchase amount below your CA limit for authorization, but it ultimately posts as a purchase.

How do I set PIN on AMEX Gift Cards and use as debit to load Bluebird, buy MOs, etc.
You cannot set PIN or use them as debit to load Bluebird, buy MOs, etc. You can only use them as credit where AMEX is accepted.

How do I cash out AMEX Gift Cards?
Use manufactured spend techniques (load RB, buy Visa/MC GCs, VRs, AP, AFT, etc.) or normal spend where AMEX is accepted.

Why buy AMEX Gift Cards then?
To reduce the cost of manufactured spend, to mask your manufactured spend (i.e unusual high spend at Target or CVS), earn additional cash back on spend, or meet minimum spend targets faster.

Next day shipping that isn't?
The next day shipping is from when they ship the cards to UPS, which can be as long as 10 days from the order submission if you order personalized cards (more recently this has been under a week). For next day shipping, you are notified late night (once your card finishes processing, see above) and the package arrive that same morning before 10:30AM in your area.

What is with the charge disappearing from my credit card?
Once the order is placed you will see a pending charge on your CC account. Quite often once the card ships this pending is removed but does not show as a charge. Don't panic (or celebrate) it will show up as a charge within a day or so.

Personalized GCs?
Either Biz or Personal GCs can be personalized with your name. This helps when shaky cashiers who demand to see your card are prevalent. These take approximately 4 biz days to arrive compared to the non personalized which arrives as quickly as the next day.

UPS Tracking?
If you logged in to your AMEX account when placing the order you can get tracking info by logging in to your AMEX account and clicking on cards > gift cards > order history > order details. Unfortunately tracking information may not appear until well after your order has shipped so it's best to sign up for UPS My Choice to get faster tracking info and reroute your package if needed. Since UPS may drop your package off at the door if you're not home, it will be useful to know when your package will arrive.

The portal terms indicate that coupon codes will invalidate cash back. Is this true?
Yes (as of July 2014)

What are the purchase limits? (Updated Dec 2014)
10K personal every 14 days
100K business every 14 days

Do declined orders count toward the purchase limits?
YMMV

Do fees and shipping count toward the purchase limits?
No

Why was my purchase declined by AMEX?
There are several possibilities:
- Your billing address does not match 100% with what the credit card company has on file. This could be anything from apt/suite/condo # on the wrong line to zip code requiring 9 digits instead of 5. If your first purchase does not go through, call your bank or login to your acct to verify that this matches what you used.
- You have gone over the $10k every 14 day limit on personal gift card purchase.
- Even if you are sure the first two are correct as you have ordered before on that card and it's been more than 14 days, you might still get declined. No one has any idea why.
- You placed a business order and you don't really have a business (at some point AMEX does a background check for a valid business) or you have exceeded the 14 day limit for business orders.

My order was declined but my credit card still shows a pending authorization. How long until this falls off and my credit line is freed up?
I typically takes 1 week for the pending authorization to fall off after a declined order.

Can I order from the business side using a personal card? Or does it need to be a business card?
You can use whatever credit card you want to pay for business or personal orders. About the only restriction is you can't use an AMEX GC to buy another AMEX GC.

How long will it take the portal to track my order and confirm the pending cash back or points?
For non-Cartera portals (TCB, BC, Befrugal, etc) your order will usually track within a day or two.
For Cartera portals (Barclay Reward Boost, Lucky Rewards, USAA, Alaska, Delta) it will take 3-4 weeks to track.

My orders are not tracking. How can I maximize the chances the portal will track my order properly?
Use a browser you do not normally use (Chrome, Firefox, Opera), reset all browser settings to defaults, clear all browser cookies, disable all browser add-ons, and close/re-start your browser before navigating to the portal and placing your order. Do NOT use promotional coupon codes. The vast majority of tracking issues result from use of coupon codes, a bad browser cookie, improperly configured browser settings, or add-ons that interfere with cookie tracking.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 10:56 am
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Originally Posted by silver4300
I've never had a problem with fpmom or fpdad. I'll try a different computer and browser.
Originally Posted by Churnman
FPDAD expired.
Perhaps I should rephrase: I never had a problem with fpmom or fpdad when they were valid - this suggests the problem is not a computer/tracking issue.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by silver4300
Perhaps I should rephrase: I never had a problem with fpmom or fpdad when they were valid - this suggests the problem is not a computer/tracking issue.
However if you are having a localized issue, than it's more likely than not, a localized error. Do you have any cookie blocking software running on your PC and do you clear cookies before proceeding?
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 11:53 am
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Submitted my first real business order, EIN and all. Hopefully 24 hours was long enough for it to hit the databases.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Fuerza
Submitted my first real business order, EIN and all. Hopefully 24 hours was long enough for it to hit the databases.
LOL!!! ^ ^
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Fuerza
Submitted my first real business order, EIN and all. Hopefully 24 hours was long enough for it to hit the databases.
It wasn't...
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 2:02 pm
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I see that the wiki says that both personal and biz can be personalized, but I haven't been able to personalize biz cards.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Ltoraya
I see that the wiki says that both personal and biz can be personalized, but I haven't been able to personalize biz cards.
Biz Gift Cards - create a design. Then add ur complete name on the first line. Really is this so hard???
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by raccah
Biz Gift Cards - create a design. Then add ur complete name on the first line. Really is this so hard???
It was for me. Thanks for the help - will try it out tonight.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 3:06 pm
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Question about tracking. Sometime a portal link takes you to page with two choices: Business vs Consumer. Clicking on one of the link opens another tab. Did anyone have issues with tracking when an order is submitted from another tab or a window. I've placed all my orders from the same window but always wondered about this.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by andres17
Ok, but is it normal that the confirmed cashback disappeared once I requested the payment? I received an email confirming that the payment will be made on July 15, and I have a "confirmation number" from that email. But I just think it is strange for this payment to no longer appear on my BF account's confirmed cashback box. Maybe that is how it works. Just want assurance that this is normal, and not that my payment was invalidated and won't be made come July 15.
Yes it is normal. It did not disappear, you just need to click around to find it. Click on the "request payment" button again and a pop up will show your current requested payments.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 3:46 pm
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Hopefully I didn't miss a post, but BF hasn't sent a notice about using fee-free codes invalidating CB, right? About to order and need to know how large the risk is!

On another note, does Amex invalidate CB if you go over the 5k/14 day limit? I got an email from BF saying that Amex was denying my CB because I may have gone over the 5k limit. At least I think that's the reason.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by subdawg
Hopefully I didn't miss a post, but BF hasn't sent a notice about using fee-free codes invalidating CB, right? About to order and need to know how large the risk is!

On another note, does Amex invalidate CB if you go over the 5k/14 day limit? I got an email from BF saying that Amex was denying my CB because I may have gone over the 5k limit. At least I think that's the reason.
I thought AMEX declined orders over the $5k limit?
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 4:03 pm
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Originally Posted by subdawg
Hopefully I didn't miss a post, but BF hasn't sent a notice about using fee-free codes invalidating CB, right? About to order and need to know how large the risk is!
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I've had 1 of 3 orders using non portal codes get denied by BF. I was also denied once by lucky rewards.
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by subdawg
Hopefully I didn't miss a post, but BF hasn't sent a notice about using fee-free codes invalidating CB, right? About to order and need to know how large the risk is!

On another note, does Amex invalidate CB if you go over the 5k/14 day limit? I got an email from BF saying that Amex was denying my CB because I may have gone over the 5k limit. At least I think that's the reason.
My CB tracked correctly when using a fee free code last night on BF. Looks fine to me. Not sure about BC though...
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Old Jun 26, 2014, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by f0xx
I thought AMEX declined orders over the $5k limit?
I do not understand I have MANY orders that were 5k+ and have all been approved. They were all Biz cards, I think.
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