Wal-Mart, Amex take on banks with Bluebird debit card
Dec 4, 2012, 9:39 am
#3601
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,431
As can I - up to 40 hours but beyond that, $0
People often talk about the 'value' of their time. Unless you're forgoing the opportunity to actually work and get paid for it, you're time is worth $0. I get paid a fixed salary and I'm not going to take a 2nd job, so the time I spend outside of work playing this game is essentialy worth nothing (in fiscal terms). Everything I "earn" while doing this becomes the monitary value of that time.
People often talk about the 'value' of their time. Unless you're forgoing the opportunity to actually work and get paid for it, you're time is worth $0. I get paid a fixed salary and I'm not going to take a 2nd job, so the time I spend outside of work playing this game is essentialy worth nothing (in fiscal terms). Everything I "earn" while doing this becomes the monitary value of that time.
Dec 4, 2012, 9:43 am
#3602
Suspended
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,998
Dec 4, 2012, 10:36 am
#3603
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 88
I have to give her credit, very nice and clearly wanted to help. Very much opposite to some of the horror stories of BB support I’ve heard. But she seemed rather powerless on getting anything done.. I doubt that’s her fault because I’m sure this is a technical issue way outside of a CSR’s scope.
I was on hold a couple of times while she talked to higher-up technical support but I never got a chance to talk to whoever that was so I’m not really sure what that entailed.
Had two separate 3-way calls with InComm with both CSRs saying “Looks good here! Must be on your side!”
Ended up getting a trouble ticket entered in BlueBird’s system where I’ll hear back in 3 to 5 days. We’ll see.
Dec 4, 2012, 10:44 am
#3604
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 599
I make my living being skeptical about systems like this, and I am quite unimpressed with the vanilla reload system. It certainly helps that attacks have to be online (i.e. you must interact with their system to make an attempt), but with the sophistication of modern hackers this is not an enormous impediment. It is incredibly simple to accumulate many "identities" (reloadable card numbers, IP addresses, etc) and mount a variety of distributed attacks on their system.
The only saving grace is that such an effort would likely not be worth it relative to other low hanging fruit, as I doubt there is really all that much to be harvested in outstanding VR cards at any given moment. Still, I wouldn't trust this system with my money for longer than a few hours or maybe days...just IMHO.
The only saving grace is that such an effort would likely not be worth it relative to other low hanging fruit, as I doubt there is really all that much to be harvested in outstanding VR cards at any given moment. Still, I wouldn't trust this system with my money for longer than a few hours or maybe days...just IMHO.
Dec 4, 2012, 12:54 pm
#3605
Formerly known as cagalindo
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: MCO TPA
Programs: Citi AA/HH/TYP Amex SPG/HH & Chase SP/PC
Posts: 1,335
Hackers can have hundreds of computers (real or virtual) running the program. Saying it would take 3,000 days is an understatement... it would probably take a few days, tops, if any semi-experienced hacker hit this.
Dec 4, 2012, 1:16 pm
#3606
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South NJ
Posts: 263
Dec 4, 2012, 1:56 pm
#3608
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Finally back in Boston after escaping from New York
Posts: 13,644
Mike
Dec 4, 2012, 2:14 pm
#3609
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Long Beach
Programs: HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 1,171
one of the best things about vanilla relaod cards at cvs is that they also sell beer, before this cvs bonanza i would have to goto office depot to by vanilla cards then waste a lot of gas driving to a cvs to buy beer, now i can do it in one stop, and i no longer have to worry about 1007.90 showing up as a bill amount when i add beer to the order, remember everything is better with beer(stolen from the butter people without permission)
Dec 4, 2012, 2:23 pm
#3610
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 124
Are you serious? I have been buying VR using HHonors Amex to meet minimum spend. I already got 40,000 points after $750 spend (two VR cards). Hope Amex doesn't find out
Dec 4, 2012, 3:16 pm
#3614
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
Read the poster's post you quoted more carefully.
CVS #1 - did not take credit card for Vanilla reloads. Did not try Paypal reloads.
CVS #2 - Success in buying Paypal reload with CC. They did not have Vanilla reloads for me to try.
CVS #3 - Same story as CVS #2
Dec 4, 2012, 3:22 pm
#3615
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
As can I - up to 40 hours but beyond that, $0
People often talk about the 'value' of their time. Unless you're forgoing the opportunity to actually work and get paid for it, you're time is worth $0. I get paid a fixed salary and I'm not going to take a 2nd job, so the time I spend outside of work playing this game is essentialy worth nothing (in fiscal terms). Everything I "earn" while doing this becomes the monitary value of that time.
People often talk about the 'value' of their time. Unless you're forgoing the opportunity to actually work and get paid for it, you're time is worth $0. I get paid a fixed salary and I'm not going to take a 2nd job, so the time I spend outside of work playing this game is essentialy worth nothing (in fiscal terms). Everything I "earn" while doing this becomes the monitary value of that time.
Those who keep talking about how much $ their hours worth, completely ignore a fact that they are NOT paid for every hour beyond what they normally put in their regular jobs UNLESS they are paid for BILLABLE hours. Even so, they are not working all the time. They still watch TV, eat out or whathaveyou. Basically this is just the time for hobby - whether you play golf or scouting CVS - it is a hobby and cannot be measured by their regular job's "pay rate". This just happens to be a hobby that can generate monetary value versus some other hobbies that burns monetary value.