ferrari_fan

Could have tried 4 zeroes, the most common/default PIN in cards. :-:

emptiness

seriously? will work as debit on prepaid and visa gcs?

nwflyboy

Didn't for me.

gardengirl

Keeping up with reading or improving skill in this case would have meant to have noticed ST as Sun Trust in threads I've read. To be honest, and I'm sure it's apparent, I don't read all of FT. Lots of forums of interest but I can't even keep up with them all. So it's a "hit what I can" method for me. Maybe ST as Sun Trust has been in threads I've read but until now it hasn't been top on my radar to put the ST abbreviation into my memory box of abbreviations. I don't concentrate on debit cards. Truthfully, if kdinino had said "Delta debit MC" this discussion wouldn't be happening.

My problem isn't that ST was used as an abbreviation, it's the higher than thou attitude of flaming someone for not knowing or even being able to search it out. Really, how much searching should go into something so simple? Why such an intolerance for the asking? Earlier today, even you were grateful for a bit of clarification. Remember, I didn't ask, I just thanked the person who did. Brave soul.

I've read the FAQ's to the search feature on FT. I've tried searching ST and Delta ST multiple ways. 496 posts, 492 threads. I've tried the "Search this Forum", and "Search this Thread" features.

As an Evangelist wouldn't it be better to be helpful than to look for ways to cut down someone who's trying? Happy?

Happy

If you are into miles-havesting, then what difference does it make if debit card also works?

The ST debit card at one point offer 50K DL bonus and that was quite attractive to some, not to mention that it also earns 1 mile per $1 "spend" - far easier to do than the juggernaut you are now engaging.

You need to re-define your search, such as type in quotation marks of a more meaningful short phrase rather than Delta ST which is way too vague a criteria. also you need to search in the thread(s) where you read about it and not understand it, instead of searching the whole FT... That is why I gave you the No.3 pointer. Seriously, this is just common sense why it seems so big a burden to you is beyond me.

Evangelist or not it is just some term the FT doles out - it means nothing to me. Though I much prefer to teach others how to fish rather than hand over the fish. It is up to you whether you want to learn, and how to prioritize / organize your approach into reading FT or whatever forums interested you - learning how to more effectively doing it is one of such option but you obviously prefer the spoon feeding in disguise.

gardengirl

I didn't say debit cards aren't worthwhile. I said I haven't concentrated on them. I've chosen others. Yes, I harvest miles, not as aggressive as some, but my speed has worked nicely for our needs.

The ST debit card sounds like it was a good offer. One I missed. Oh well, I'm working on some right now and there will be others when I'm ready for more. If the juggernaut you're referring to is this BB movement then I've got to clarify it's just an extra bonus in a plan for 240K cc bonus miles. When all the Chase cards have their required spend satisfied, targeting certain cards for category of spending should mean more than 1 mile per $1 spent much of the time. I'm curious to see if OD comes back with another VR that takes care of the fraud issues but is still friendly for Ink users. For us UR points transfer to 1 mile per point with United, US Air or Delta through MR.

Seriously (you like that word), I was supposed to catch in your pointer No. 3 that by putting "inventing" in quotes that using ""'s in the Search this Thread option would bring up all the "ST"'s in the thread? No, I thought you were using quotes like others use them when they are emphasizing a word. Surely, somewhere along the line someone told you about this feature. It isn't in the FAQ's for the search features. Are you saying that you and everyone else who knows this works just figured it out from common sense? I seriously doubt it. I would have used it had I known about it. Believe me the last thing I want to do is ask . . . Is it common sense to cut the top 1/3 off the burlap of a root ball when planting a tree so the burlap doesn't wick the water to the bottom of the hole and drown the plant? No. So I plainly tell this detail to those I'm teaching how to plant shrubs and trees. It gets done and they know. Painless. Spoonfed? No. Helpful. Yes.

"It means nothing to me" "Teach others how to fish" High platitudes. Blah, blah, blah. Why are Do's so popular? Because people want to learn. There are lots of generous people as part of these Do's willing to help those interested in learning. Sure I'd like to know how to better consume the wealth of info here on FT but I'm muddling along the best I currently know how. When you start spouting off what I prefer and what I don't prefer you are surely talking about something you know nothing about.

TVFilmFL

I spent two hours on both hold and talking to a young man from India last night who answered after I played some phone menu games to get to someone live. The 10x I called the number on the activation sticker, prior to the games, I was told the BB card is so successful, they couldn't take my call & I must use the info on their site & they hung up on me. (AmEx, bad form!)

I called to first activate the Blue Bird card that I had received in the mail & then find out how I could use it to pay credit card bills. He was clueless on the activation, had no idea how Americans pay their credit card bills and spoke so quickly I had to request repeats on almost everything he said after "Hello". Finally, I got his supervisor on the line. I explained my question about paying credit cards without a routing number & acct. number. Had to explain banking in the USA to him, too. (What's AmEx thinking? They have no training in American banking and credit??? Bad enough these jobs are outsourced, but train them, for God's sake!)

Anyway, finally he "clicked" on what I was saying & what I was asking and he gave me what I would call a human-friendly explanation, rather than repeating, "YOU CAN DO IT!! JUST BELIEVE ME!!" To wit:

If your CC is one of the BB's registered payees (check site after activation & e-mail verification. List found under "Bill Pay Feature" - but at this moment this part of their site is down.) then you put in credit card account info and they (BB/AmEx) send your desired payment from your BB card balance electronically (posts in 24 hours) to the CC/Bank. If the CC isn't among their growing registered payees list, they send a physical check with the CC info you give and it takes 3-5 biz days to post.

Happy

My dear, by all means, go to the DO's - and remember you would need to pay to get help (and they do not do hand-holding, you still have to put in some efforts in learning.)

Here the posts are free, take them as what they worth and stop complaining why others dont accommodating you - nobody here has any obligation to anyone - it is just an internet forum where people exchange ideas - no more no less.

As for the debit card, in what form or manner I imply your preference? All I am saying is, if a person is into harvesting miles, then just look at a deal / tool / mechanism at their virtue and make a decision based on whether such would work for oneself - again, define your goal as in most areas in life if you want to achieve something.

MDtR-Chicago

I find it shocking that someone posting in a thread about how to use a BB to buy things that aren't typically bought with a credit card would call and ask how to pay a credit card bill.

And then further shocked that it's so persistently difficult for folks to figure out clicking on "Pay Bills" and entering the name and account number. Then going to the credit card website on the delivery date and verifying the payment hit.

Why are people so fascinated with calling and asking so many questions?

TRY things out. Learn as you go. Stay off the radar as much as possible; you're a better customer that way and less likely to be hassled.

Goofy Foot

ZontarTheThingFromVenus

I agree - what's so hard about sending out a few $10 test payments from BB to each payee and then sitting back and waiting a few days to see if it is processed on the other end? That's what I did and so far everthing has worked OK. Seems like a lot of people here are very impatient.

aegt123

I have paid my dad's gas and brother's water bill. It worked.

nwflyboy

Impatient or something else...

gardengirl

From the above posts it looks like even you, Dear Happy, needs some occasional hand holding.

Sure the Do's have an expense. But it is for far more than the classes. There is excitement of everything involved with being a community that is a bonus.

As I've been trying to say, but you haven't been listening very well, I'm all for learning. I've never complained that someone didn't answer my question. You're obviously not being thorough with your reading.

My problem is with the flaming for a simple ask of a question. If you don't want to answer someone, then keep quiet. There's an arrogance that says you are the only one with the proper difficulties and questions but others are mere trifles of common sense. Sounds like a case of the unmerciful servant IMO.

You are really confused in your last paragraph. If you go back and read your previous post you will see that you said I prefer the spoon feeding. Oh not so Dear Happy. I like to be led to the source of info so I can do my homework. Then if I need more clarification I'm not ashamed to say so. Supposedly, it never hurts to ask.

You are right, FT is an internet forum for the exchange of ideas and discussion. You are wrong that no hand holding is involved. You're even blind if you think your hand hasn't also been held. In my gardening business I do often explain I hold my clients hands to get them the space they're dreaming of. There's an enjoyment that comes with a compassionate desire to help others.

akp

Please take your back-and-forth off the thread out of courtesy to those of us who are interested in Bluebird developments.