Wal-Mart, Amex take on banks with Bluebird debit card
#2461
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 538
Looks like another blogger is posting pictures of VRs at CVS with step-by-step instructions on how to leverage 5x at OD for this. I note that his post is actually closed to comments.
*sigh*
*sigh*

#2462
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA 1MM Gold, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 1,488
Yes, at Walmart too!
Very weird though, a few minutes later now I just got an email saying the investigation is complete and my account is now active again immediately.
So.... Looks like my activity was pushing it. Will post more details as soon as I am out of a meeting at work.
Very weird though, a few minutes later now I just got an email saying the investigation is complete and my account is now active again immediately.
So.... Looks like my activity was pushing it. Will post more details as soon as I am out of a meeting at work.

#2463
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 538
Yes, at Walmart too!
Very weird though, a few minutes later now I just got an email saying the investigation is complete and my account is now active again immediately.
So.... Looks like my activity was pushing it. Will post more details as soon as I am out of a meeting at work.
Very weird though, a few minutes later now I just got an email saying the investigation is complete and my account is now active again immediately.
So.... Looks like my activity was pushing it. Will post more details as soon as I am out of a meeting at work.

#2464
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA 1MM Gold, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 1,488
I've taken a rather conservative approach with this to avoid any trouble. I deposit checks, use it for everyday purchase swipes, and I've even loaded some cash on the card at a Wal-Mart register a few times. I'm basically getting zero interest on my checking account, so why not leave my petty cash with BB to keep everyone nice and happy?

#2465
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA 1MM Gold, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 1,488
Ok, details.
Here is the suspend email:
During a recent review, we noticed unusual/irregular activity on your Bluebird Account.
For your security and protection, your Bluebird Account has been suspended while we conduct further investigation.
Please contact us immediately at 1-877-486-5962.
Thanks,
Bluebird
And the suspend lifted email 8 minutes later:
Your Bluebird Account was recently suspended due to unusual/irregular activity.
Thank you for your patience while we looked into this matter. We are happy to inform you that we have finished our investigation and the suspension on your Account has been lifted effective immediately. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Please call us at 1-877-486-5962 if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Bluebird
I think what caused this was that I returned something to a store and I believe I swiped my bluebird for the return on accident (too many cards... ugh) instead of my amex prepaid (which I originally used for the transaction) because i see this line in my account this morning:
"$290.72 disputed sale chargeback reversal"
The icon for this transaction in bluebird.com is the same as an ATM withdrawal or bill pay, so it's an outgoing transaction, meaning that the place I made a return to was sent the $ back. Looks like I will have to go back in and get them to return to the correct card because bluebird did not accept this.
So, beware whether done on accident or purpose.
Here is the suspend email:
During a recent review, we noticed unusual/irregular activity on your Bluebird Account.
For your security and protection, your Bluebird Account has been suspended while we conduct further investigation.
Please contact us immediately at 1-877-486-5962.
Thanks,
Bluebird
And the suspend lifted email 8 minutes later:
Your Bluebird Account was recently suspended due to unusual/irregular activity.
Thank you for your patience while we looked into this matter. We are happy to inform you that we have finished our investigation and the suspension on your Account has been lifted effective immediately. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Please call us at 1-877-486-5962 if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Bluebird
I think what caused this was that I returned something to a store and I believe I swiped my bluebird for the return on accident (too many cards... ugh) instead of my amex prepaid (which I originally used for the transaction) because i see this line in my account this morning:
"$290.72 disputed sale chargeback reversal"
The icon for this transaction in bluebird.com is the same as an ATM withdrawal or bill pay, so it's an outgoing transaction, meaning that the place I made a return to was sent the $ back. Looks like I will have to go back in and get them to return to the correct card because bluebird did not accept this.
So, beware whether done on accident or purpose.

#2466
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 16,528

That's why it seems to make more sense to me to pay your Ink bill through your regular checking account. But that becomes problematic if BB doesn't want you to send money to your bank account.
Is there any reason to think BB has "a problem" with folks depositing money to their own regular bank accounts?

#2467
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Florida
Programs: UA Premier Gold, TK Elite Card, AF Gold Medallion
Posts: 256
Ok, details.
Here is the suspend email:
During a recent review, we noticed unusual/irregular activity on your Bluebird Account.
For your security and protection, your Bluebird Account has been suspended while we conduct further investigation.
Please contact us immediately at 1-877-486-5962.
Thanks,
Bluebird
And the suspend lifted email 8 minutes later:
Your Bluebird Account was recently suspended due to unusual/irregular activity.
Thank you for your patience while we looked into this matter. We are happy to inform you that we have finished our investigation and the suspension on your Account has been lifted effective immediately. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Please call us at 1-877-486-5962 if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Bluebird
I think what caused this was that I returned something to a store and I believe I swiped my bluebird for the return on accident (too many cards... ugh) instead of my amex prepaid (which I originally used for the transaction) because i see this line in my account this morning:
"$290.72 disputed sale chargeback reversal"
The icon for this transaction in bluebird.com is the same as an ATM withdrawal or bill pay, so it's an outgoing transaction, meaning that the place I made a return to was sent the $ back. Looks like I will have to go back in and get them to return to the correct card because bluebird did not accept this.
So, beware whether done on accident or purpose.
Here is the suspend email:
During a recent review, we noticed unusual/irregular activity on your Bluebird Account.
For your security and protection, your Bluebird Account has been suspended while we conduct further investigation.
Please contact us immediately at 1-877-486-5962.
Thanks,
Bluebird
And the suspend lifted email 8 minutes later:
Your Bluebird Account was recently suspended due to unusual/irregular activity.
Thank you for your patience while we looked into this matter. We are happy to inform you that we have finished our investigation and the suspension on your Account has been lifted effective immediately. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Please call us at 1-877-486-5962 if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Bluebird
I think what caused this was that I returned something to a store and I believe I swiped my bluebird for the return on accident (too many cards... ugh) instead of my amex prepaid (which I originally used for the transaction) because i see this line in my account this morning:
"$290.72 disputed sale chargeback reversal"
The icon for this transaction in bluebird.com is the same as an ATM withdrawal or bill pay, so it's an outgoing transaction, meaning that the place I made a return to was sent the $ back. Looks like I will have to go back in and get them to return to the correct card because bluebird did not accept this.
So, beware whether done on accident or purpose.

#2468
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 538
Yeah, but let's face it: if Chase "cares," it's pretty obvious that EVERYONE paying an Ink card with BB is involved in "the game." Especially if they seem to mostly buy office supplies with their card. 
That's why it seems to make more sense to me to pay your Ink bill through your regular checking account. But that becomes problematic if BB doesn't want you to send money to your bank account.
Is there any reason to think BB has "a problem" with folks depositing money to their own regular bank accounts?

That's why it seems to make more sense to me to pay your Ink bill through your regular checking account. But that becomes problematic if BB doesn't want you to send money to your bank account.
Is there any reason to think BB has "a problem" with folks depositing money to their own regular bank accounts?
How many people with a bank account and substantial income and available credit are actually using BB by paying to reload with cash?

#2469
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,612
I mean if any of the involved companies care, it's easy to figure out whether you actually need BB or are just involved with "the game."
How many people with a bank account and substantial income and available credit are actually using BB by paying to reload with cash?
How many people with a bank account and substantial income and available credit are actually using BB by paying to reload with cash?
They know exactly what we are doing. They know all about the churning. The airlines know about the tricks. The mint knew about the mint, etc. We are a relatively small and fairly crazy bunch. The costs we "impose" on them are small compared to the overall size and magnitude of their businesses. I know it is heresy to say so, but FT is not that important in the scheme of things! Most people have never heard of it.
Banks (and all companies) don't give one whit about "the game". They care only about making a profit. When their bottom line suffers, they will take note, game or no game, churns or no churns. And conversely, if they are making a lot of money, they're happy to let a small minority of kind of maniacal people use their products to go nuts.

#2471
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 1,355
I did some billpays out of BB that I set up this weekend. They were all in the payment system, and said delivery by 11/14 (Today). Since everyone else had said the payments that are in their system process electronically, I assumed it might even go faster. Nothing has posted to my accounts yet, so I'm getting a little bit anxious. No usual confirmation e-mail, either. If I don't get some reassurance I will probably have to fight with them to make sure everything works out without a problem. Now I'm regretting not doing some quick "test" payments, but oh well.

#2473
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 8
The idea that we are somehow "pulling one over" on the banks is laughable.
They know exactly what we are doing. They know all about the churning. The airlines know about the tricks. The mint knew about the mint, etc. We are a relatively small and fairly crazy bunch. The costs we "impose" on them are small compared to the overall size and magnitude of their businesses. I know it is heresy to say so, but FT is not that important in the scheme of things! Most people have never heard of it.
Banks (and all companies) don't give one whit about "the game". They care only about making a profit. When their bottom line suffers, they will take note, game or no game, churns or no churns. And conversely, if they are making a lot of money, they're happy to let a small minority of kind of maniacal people use their products to go nuts.
They know exactly what we are doing. They know all about the churning. The airlines know about the tricks. The mint knew about the mint, etc. We are a relatively small and fairly crazy bunch. The costs we "impose" on them are small compared to the overall size and magnitude of their businesses. I know it is heresy to say so, but FT is not that important in the scheme of things! Most people have never heard of it.
Banks (and all companies) don't give one whit about "the game". They care only about making a profit. When their bottom line suffers, they will take note, game or no game, churns or no churns. And conversely, if they are making a lot of money, they're happy to let a small minority of kind of maniacal people use their products to go nuts.

#2474
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 314
I did some billpays out of BB that I set up this weekend. They were all in the payment system, and said delivery by 11/14 (Today). Since everyone else had said the payments that are in their system process electronically, I assumed it might even go faster. Nothing has posted to my accounts yet, so I'm getting a little bit anxious. No usual confirmation e-mail, either. If I don't get some reassurance I will probably have to fight with them to make sure everything works out without a problem. Now I'm regretting not doing some quick "test" payments, but oh well.

#2475
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 1,355
I put some electronic bill pays that the system said would be delivered by 11/13. I checked a number of times yesterday and nothing showed up. When I checked again this morning all the payments had gone through with a date of yesterday. Its nerve-wracking but be patient.
