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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 2:42 pm
  #8341  
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
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Originally Posted by aGeist
Wish I paid attention, Just loaded $1500 past 3 days with Boa Visa now I have $75 in CA fees. dammit.
ouch.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 2:53 pm
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Simon malll GC not working at FD

I need some help, yesterday I bought a $500 Simon Mall Visa gift card that is pin enabled. Today I went to load the $500 VGC to my serve account at Family Dollar. I walked in and looked for the Vanilla Reload card but they did not have one on the rack. I proceeded by telling the cashier that I would like to reload my Serve Card. She asked how much I would like to put on it and I told her $500. She scanned a card behind the register and then I swiped my Serve card. 10 or 15 seconds passed as the system processed it and then it was time to swipe my gift card. As soon as I got done swiping a red message showed up on the screen that said "Visa tender not allowed". I tried a few more times but to no avail. It didn't give me an option to put in a pin, it just denied it right away.

I went to a different location and the exact same thing happen. I called the Serve number on the back of the card but they were no help. I searched the internet but it doesn't seem like this is a common problem. On page 445 post number 6663 of this thread had the same problem as me but no one was able to give him an answer. If anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate the help.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by figgs
I called the Serve number on the back of the card but they were no help.
Seriously?
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
OK, 2 days later and still getting "technical difficulties" when trying to bill pay. If it matters, I'm using my wife's card to pay my credit card balance. But I've done this for over a year now, and I just used my mom's Serve to pay that same (mine) credit card without problems. Is it time for my wife to call? Oddly enough, I used her Serve to e-send my Redbird $10 and it went through without an issue.
Serve can get sick on bill pay, this is similar to what happened to BB in Spring.

The workaround might be to DELETE all your existing payees and then add it one by one - that worked to fix the affected BB accounts back then. You can try this mechanism. You could search the BB thread in the Feb to Apr time frame if I remember it correctly and can see numerous posts on this issue. It happened on my BB but the "technical difficulty" error eventually went away by itself After about a week. Others took the above workaround to start all over.

You can pay ANYBODY's bills from your Serve or BB account, it makes not a single iota difference.

If you want to get this looked at and hopefully fixed (good luck) without the above suggested workaround then yeah, the account owner needs to call and that is your wife, not you.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
Serve can get sick on bill pay, this is similar to what happened to BB in Spring.

The workaround might be to DELETE all your existing payees and then add it one by one - that worked to fix the affected BB accounts back then. You can try this mechanism. You could search the BB thread in the Feb to Apr time frame if I remember it correctly and can see numerous posts on this issue. It happened on my BB but the "technical difficulty" error eventually went away by itself After about a week. Others took the above workaround to start all over.

You can pay ANYBODY's bills from your Serve or BB account, it makes not a single iota difference.

If you want to get this looked at and hopefully fixed (good luck) without the above suggested workaround then yeah, the account owner needs to call and that is your wife, not you.
I hope it fixes itself later and I don't have to call in for my wife. Like I mentioned, I used another SErve account to pay that same credit card and it went through fine. I even tried adding new credit cards to pay using my wife's Serve, and all have "technical difficulties" doing so. FWIW, the first time I encountered this was when I attempted a BP a couple minutes after loading $200 online with credit card. Maybe AMEX didn't like that.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by figgs
I need some help, yesterday I bought a $500 Simon Mall Visa gift card that is pin enabled. Today I went to load the $500 VGC to my serve account at Family Dollar. I walked in and looked for the Vanilla Reload card but they did not have one on the rack. I proceeded by telling the cashier that I would like to reload my Serve Card. She asked how much I would like to put on it and I told her $500. She scanned a card behind the register and then I swiped my Serve card. 10 or 15 seconds passed as the system processed it and then it was time to swipe my gift card. As soon as I got done swiping a red message showed up on the screen that said "Visa tender not allowed". I tried a few more times but to no avail. It didn't give me an option to put in a pin, it just denied it right away.

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Had the same issue with Simon card and finally gave up. I think there was mention in the Simon thread about this but don't remember.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by figgs
I need some help, yesterday I bought a $500 Simon Mall Visa gift card that is pin enabled. <snip>
Had the same issue a couple of weeks ago. I searched and searched on this board, and eventually got caught in an infinite loop -- certain people on this thread said to read the Simon thread for info, and certain people on the Simon thread said to read this thread for info; no actual answer or resolution exists as far as I can tell. My best guess is that it's an intermittent issue that only some of us have had the misfortune of encountering. I ultimately liquidated my Simon GC at WM w/Kate.

As for Family Dollar, my local one turned me down today when I tried to load my Serve card. I loaded a Sunrise Bank-issued VGC (acquired at a Macerich mall, only a $3 load fee) at this same FD on Monday with no issues. Today when I tried the girl told me flatly that they "don't do 'Swerve' cards anymore". I showed her my Serve card, asked her to clarify that they no longer load money to these cards anymore, and she said yes. Part of me wanted to push the issue and see if they'd even load it with cash, but then if they said yes, I would have been obligated to actually load with cash, so I left, drove to another FD about 10 miles away (in a much, much lower income neighborhood) and had no issues loading with my Sunrise VGC.
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Old Dec 11, 2014, 7:53 pm
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Anyone know if discover IT is being treated as a cash advance or purchase?
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 5:49 am
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How to add Barclay card as payee?

Trying to add a Frontier airline Barclay credit card as a payee on my Serve account but can't find it. Found Chase, Citi etc but not Barclay. Thanks for any help.
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 7:03 am
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Originally Posted by shanna135
Trying to add a Frontier airline Barclay credit card as a payee on my Serve account but can't find it. Found Chase, Citi etc but not Barclay. Thanks for any help.
Look again. It's there under Barclays Bank Delaware...
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 7:25 am
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Serve - Another Paypal/Amazon Payments.

we got a new kate at local WM it does not have normal bluebird button last month. i was able to load serve using the walmart money card button. but since yesterday, after i inputed the load mount, the machine stuck at authorization processing and then it asked do you want to continue the purchase? if chosed yes, it asked the mount again and late it poped the same message again if chosed no, it started over. does this mean the kate has been reprogrammed to block serve load?
thanks
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by facehu
we got a new kate at local WM it does not have normal bluebird button last month. i was able to load serve using the walmart money card button. but since yesterday, after i inputed the load mount, the machine stuck at authorization processing and then it asked do you want to continue the purchase? if chosed yes, it asked the mount again and late it poped the same message again if chosed no, it started over. does this mean the kate has been reprogrammed to block serve load?
thanks
lol, no. Kate hiccups a lot, just come back another time.
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 9:02 am
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Southwest business visa declined on 12/12 with CA set limit at $0.
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by boulderlaw
Southwest business visa declined on 12/12 with CA set limit at $0.
Why are people still reporting this? Its going to decline on ANY card that has a cash advance limit set to $0. Its been this way for two whole months! It means absolutely nothing.
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Old Dec 12, 2014, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by tobyrocks
Had the same issue with Simon card and finally gave up. I think there was mention in the Simon thread about this but don't remember.
Yeah I just went to Walmart and waited in the long holiday shopping line but it was worth it as I loaded the Simon VGC no problem. I found this post too which seems relevant:

"I searched the web and couldn't find any useful info.
I tried loading my Serve at Family Dollar yesterday with a Simon Mall Visa gift card, immediately after I swiped my Simon Mall GC, the registered beeped and wouldn't let the transaction go through, it didn't even let me enter my pin number.
Then the cashier voided the transaction and I tried loading it with a regular Visa GC I bought from CVS, the transaction went through like normal.
Do Simon Mall GCs not work at Family Dollar? Am I missing something? "

It is weird that for some Simon VGC aren't working.
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