Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 9:37 am
  #6886  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Cannot load

Hi guys I have a problem with my serve card. I tried to load it at walmart and family dollar with a visa gift card and transactions were denied in both cases.
Today I called the customer care and the rep told me I cannot use my debit card to load serve, only cash.
Please help?

the error was " debit not approved call authorizer"
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by sean79
Hi guys I have a problem with my serve card. I tried to load it at walmart and family dollar with a visa gift card and transactions were denied in both cases.
Today I called the customer care and the rep told me I cannot use my debit card to load serve, only cash.
Please help?
Don't assume Serve CS knows more than you do. Are you sure you haven't med a load cap? 2500/day or 5000/month? What were the denial messages? Finally, are you sure your card is activated?
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by sean79
Hi guys I have a problem with my serve card. I tried to load it at walmart and family dollar with a visa gift card and transactions were denied in both cases.
Today I called the customer care and the rep told me I cannot use my debit card to load serve, only cash.
Please help?

the error was " debit not approved call authorizer"
Finally someone with my same problem. DEBIT NOT APPROVED!

The card is new, so no, I haven't met the limit. Too bad, I have 2 new Serve accounts that I'm unable to load.

I even tried loading $20 in CASH. Still, got the same DEBIT NOT APPROVED CALL AUTHORIZER crap.

Sean79, are you in the US mainland? My theory was that PR Walmarts were having an issue, since no one else seems to have this problem. But now I'm not alone. Sad, today is the last day of September. 10k in loads gone.

Please, someone, HELP
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by sean79
Hi guys I have a problem with my serve card. I tried to load it at walmart and family dollar with a visa gift card and transactions were denied in both cases.
Today I called the customer care and the rep told me I cannot use my debit card to load serve, only cash.
Please help?

the error was " debit not approved call authorizer"
You have to provide more information about the debit card itself. Is it activated? Are the funds still there? Did you max out your monthly limit (I know its lame to ask but I find it very surprising when people don't even keep track of how much they have loaded per card per month)?
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
You have to provide more information about the debit card itself. Is it activated? Are the funds still there? Did you max out your monthly limit (I know its lame to ask but I find it very surprising when people don't even keep track of how much they have loaded per card per month)?
Eric,

I've had Serve since 2012. I know all about it. I just decided to switch to Serve Isis. The card is new. It was activated. I even called the CSR and they said there's nothing wrong with the card. I did my September load on the regular Serve, closed the regurlar Serve, and opened the Serve ISIS (bad move on my part, since now I don't have a working Serve card).

You might argue that maybe Amex updated their systems, and I can't load again until October. But that would be wrong because I also have a new regular Serve (not Isis) that I opened for a family member. And that card also has the same error message! Can't load even with CASH.

Sean, are you having this issue in PR, or in the US mainland?
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 2:10 pm
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I had a similar issue in my 1st month. The limit just didn't seem to set correctly.

Wait until tomorrow and probably all will be well.


Originally Posted by andres17
Finally someone with my same problem. DEBIT NOT APPROVED!

The card is new, so no, I haven't met the limit. Too bad, I have 2 new Serve accounts that I'm unable to load.

I even tried loading $20 in CASH. Still, got the same DEBIT NOT APPROVED CALL AUTHORIZER crap.

Sean79, are you in the US mainland? My theory was that PR Walmarts were having an issue, since no one else seems to have this problem. But now I'm not alone. Sad, today is the last day of September. 10k in loads gone.

Please, someone, HELP
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 2:45 pm
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So if I buy a cashwrap case for an old iPhone 4/4S I can just borrow a friend's phone for a bit to set it up with no ill effect for them?
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by rdover1
I had a similar issue in my 1st month. The limit just didn't seem to set correctly.

Wait until tomorrow and probably all will be well.
I'm hoping it is just a 1st month thing. I can live with that. Still, 10k down the drain hurts
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by andres17
Finally someone with my same problem. DEBIT NOT APPROVED!

The card is new, so no, I haven't met the limit. Too bad, I have 2 new Serve accounts that I'm unable to load.

I even tried loading $20 in CASH. Still, got the same DEBIT NOT APPROVED CALL AUTHORIZER crap.

Sean79, are you in the US mainland? My theory was that PR Walmarts were having an issue, since no one else seems to have this problem. But now I'm not alone. Sad, today is the last day of September. 10k in loads gone.

Please, someone, HELP
Is it possible Amex has eliminated the double month's limit when opening a new account type? Would you be over the limit based on earlier activity in the month on your old account?
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by mrmandel
Is it possible Amex has eliminated the double month's limit when opening a new account type? Would you be over the limit based on earlier activity in the month on your old account?
I switched to serve (non-ISIS) this month and had no issues with double dipping.
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by mrmandel
Is it possible Amex has eliminated the double month's limit when opening a new account type? Would you be over the limit based on earlier activity in the month on your old account?
I also was able to land $1000 through credit card and then another $1500 after switching to Serve Softcard in the middle of the month.
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 7:39 pm
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Anybody know what time the month starts for October? I thought I had seen before on the wiki, but don't see it now. It is midnight eastern time?
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 10:20 pm
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Originally Posted by givingitatry
Anybody know what time the month starts for October? I thought I had seen before on the wiki, but don't see it now. It is midnight eastern time?
If I remember correctly, it should be midnight Eastern time.
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by geclub1
Almost correct. The initial $500 does not count against the 5k limit. The subsequent reloads do, even when loaded onto the temp card. Temp cards can be loaded up to $1500 if my memory does not fail me.
Thanks geclub1, updated the Wiki with your info
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Old Sep 30, 2014, 10:47 pm
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Originally Posted by andres17
If I remember correctly, it should be midnight Eastern time.
I was able to load a VR and MP at 11 pm Central time tonight. Will hit Wallyworld in the morning on the way to work to say hi to Kate.
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