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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by mrbru2
I was just got back from a Family Dollar and the cashier didn't know how to do it so the manager came over and wanted to make sure I was using a personal debit card. I showed my personal card and I managed to sneak my vanilla in to swipe, but I guess she saw and then she threatened to cancel the transaction after it completed. She said you can't use a credit card and I tried to explain it was a debit card to no avail. She went to call another manager and I waited for a few minutes for her to return but eventually just left. The cashier was concerned for me, but I checked my mail and the transaction already posted to my account and I see it already posted online now that I am back to my computer. Anyone had a load transaction voided/cancelled? I obviously won't be going back to that Family Dollar, but I guess I better hurry and load my other cards asap before they shut it down like everyone else.
I wouldn't freak out about this. Obviously be cognizant about this manager and hopefully doesn't work at the time you go to FD. Also hopefully the cashier knows how to load Serve now.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 1:29 pm
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Thanks, I was hoping this would be the case. I'll probably just avoid that FD for the time being anyway. I had no problems with the one near my house on Sunday so I'll probably just stick with that one.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by mrbru2
Thanks, I was hoping this would be the case. I'll probably just avoid that FD for the time being anyway. I had no problems with the one near my house on Sunday so I'll probably just stick with that one.
If you avoid that FD for the time being, the manager is not going to remember you next month. They are not going to automatically assume everyone who is loading Serve at FD is using GCs. We all tend to over analyze and think that the manager will suddenly pull all the stops on loading with debit just because of your single incident. That is not how it works.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 1:39 pm
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Timing for opening new Isis account. I've read Wiki and I'm unclear on just one thing. Going to use this for new CC that hasn't yet arrived but wanted to open Serve/Isis and get card. At this point, not really concerned about $25/$50/bonus.

Wiki says:
5.Launch Isis Mobile app again click add new
6.Activate card with Isis and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Isis!

As I understand it $5--"add new" refers to new CC, correct?the above happens new CC. I'm trying to avoid having 2 cards on this a/c and CSR calls but want to get Serve card on it's way. So would going as far as step 4 be advisable and then moving to step 5 as soon as new CC arrives work?

Thanks
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Nope. Having a new style and FD loading are not the same thing. It is possible that VRs may have a new style.
Sometimes I forget that there are places out there that still allow CC for VR... wish they were near me! Just assumed they were talking about the FD special coded VR.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by maxmnx
I signed up on Saturday: Serve/ISIS/AT&T, and only received $15 in my Serve account.

Update: Just added $200 via Citibank CC and now my Serve account has $230. Must have missed a T&C.
Yup, for AT&T you get $15 upon sign up and another $15 when you add money to your Serve account.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 1:55 pm
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Originally Posted by aceofcards
Yup, for AT&T you get $15 upon sign up and another $15 when you add money to your Serve account.
Thanks for the information!
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by annhedonia
Timing for opening new Isis account. I've read Wiki and I'm unclear on just one thing. Going to use this for new CC that hasn't yet arrived but wanted to open Serve/Isis and get card. At this point, not really concerned about $25/$50/bonus.

Wiki says:
5.Launch Isis Mobile app again click add new
6.Activate card with Isis and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Isis!

As I understand it #5--"add new" refers to new CC, correct?the above happens new CC. I'm trying to avoid having 2 cards on this a/c and CSR calls but want to get Serve card on it's way. So would going as far as step 4 be advisable and then moving to step 5 as soon as new CC arrives work?

Thanks
The "add new" in Isis terms means adding a card other than Wells Fargo/Chase/Amex. However the only way to add that card is via a Serve acct. Therefore, it takes you to sign-up/login into your Serve acct. However, you won't be required to actually add a credit card to your Serve acct at that time.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by smoothmunkey
Sometimes I forget that there are places out there that still allow CC for VR... wish they were near me! Just assumed they were talking about the FD special coded VR.
To be fair I think FD does, except since you're loading the Serve it won't let you use an AMEX card.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
The "add new" in Isis terms means adding a card other than Wells Fargo/Chase/Amex. However the only way to add that card is via a Serve acct. Therefore, it takes you to sign-up/login into your Serve acct. However, you won't be required to actually add a credit card to your Serve acct at that time.
Thanks-- when we "actually" assigned up for Serve through Isis the process became totally clear.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by smoothmunkey
Sometimes I forget that there are places out there that still allow CC for VR... wish they were near me! Just assumed they were talking about the FD special coded VR.
that's true. I always thought that VRs were hard coded not to accept CCs at all Walgreens. I was wrong because I found some that still take CCs as payment. Regardless of what I read online, I go ahead and explore.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 7:14 pm
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This afternoon i went to FD for the first time to load Serve. Gave cashier the special VR card to scan, then the screen said something that require manager override. No issue after manager did her thing and used $200 mastercard GC to load, twice.

Is it normal for manager to override then load?
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Clar
This afternoon i went to FD for the first time to load Serve. Gave cashier the special VR card to scan, then the screen said something that require manager override. No issue after manager did her thing and used $200 mastercard GC to load, twice.

Is it normal for manager to override then load?
Yes. Pretty much all of the FD stores required a supervisor override except for 1 that maybe didn't require a supervisor override or it did but was distracted and didn't notice. I noticed the supervisor needs to enter their employee ID and then a password to override the system.
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 8:14 pm
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manager override is required for each load? I doubt it, cause that seems unecessary and quite extreme from FD. I can understand for some $ threshold or perhaps multiple load attempts -- but the very first one?
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Old Jul 8, 2014, 8:35 pm
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[QUOTE=AveApostle;23160536]In signing up my second Serve account, I noticed the "backup funding source" option which had not been noticed (if even there) when I signed up for the first some months before, in which you were given the option to backup your Serve with your chosen CC (Settings > Bank & Cards)--either not at all, or to a set amount, or unlimited $ backup.

After seeing the person who couldn't load the $25 cash to his account because of already having maxed out, I'm wondering if the "backup funding option" has been tested--could s/he simply have zeroed out, spent the $25, and then the $25 would have gone straight to his backup card--still netting the $25 bonus on the Serve plus whatever benefits the backup card has? Or does that still count towards the $1k CC load/month? (It would seem not the latter option if you could choose to backup unlimited.) This might be a neat way to sync a non-Amex to in effect, get Amex offers, among other things.

(Or perhaps this is one of those posts that seems to make sense at the hour -- but in the morning, no.)


(Wow -- a Cole Porter ref?! Also been wondering if backup funding is a loophole in the load max. Anyone?
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