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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 9:07 pm
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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Serve - Another Paypal/Amazon Payments.

I have loaded $200 from a Chase credit card and $200 from a non-gift debit card on a new Serve twice so far this month at CVS with no problem. I didn't try to use a gift card or load more than $200 at a time because I read on here that the limits were $200/day $1000/mo and gift cards were not acceptable to Serve.
No request for documents was made, account seems to be working right. I have been withdrawing most of the deposits at a free ATM.
They do appear to post as cash deposits. I wonder if it would be safe to assume the $5k limit instead of $1k and to exceed $200/day?
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Old Dec 13, 2013, 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
Did you do the 3 smaller transactions all at once right after each other?

Did they ever look at your ID to match the Serve card? I don't want to give up my BB but I think I'll sign my wife up for Serve but she doesn't play this game so it would have to be me loading it for her.
Right after each other.

This time no on id, but they have in the past. That said, I've never had any trouble using a card with a different first name if the last name is the same.
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Old Dec 14, 2013, 2:30 pm
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With a big month of Amex Gift Cards rolling in, I figured I better use the Serve card in addition to Bluebird this month. I have had no problems using the Amex Gift Cards to buy VR's 2x$496.05 and then loading them to the Serve card. They do list Amex as someone to pay so I will be paying an amex bill or two, but not the whole amount with that payment to not look funky. I may have to load the old Vanilla Debit card too!! I could not turn down the 6%+ buying the Amex cards with BigCrumbs on special days and the Grandfathered Travelocity Amex card.

JudyJFLA
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Old Dec 15, 2013, 6:05 pm
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Note: Max load per transaction at CVS appears to be $500. Can do more in a day (limit is probably $1k), but must split it up into separate transactions.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 9:15 am
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Tried to load $200 onto Serve from Chase CC, got a message that I needed to call.....NOPE! Tried agian for $100 and it went through. Confusing as the limit terms state that $200 max from CC up to $1k month. Anyone else have this kind of issue?
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 9:17 am
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Note: Max load per transaction at CVS appears to be $500. Can do more in a day (limit is probably $1k), but must split it up into separate transactions.
Any issue with the cashier or just tell them you wanted to load? Have not tried to load at CVS yet but have been curious....
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by JudyJFLA
With a big month of Amex Gift Cards rolling in, I figured I better use the Serve card in addition to Bluebird this month….
You may find that Amex will eventually contact you to inform you that you can not have both a Bluebird and a Serve account. I had both for a while, but eventually they emailed me, informed me that they knew I had both, and I needed to pick one. I was given a brief chance to choose which one I wanted to keep and which I would close (and if I didn't choose, they would choose for me). I picked Bluebird.
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 5:14 pm
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Originally Posted by JudyJFLA
With a big month of Amex Gift Cards rolling in, I figured I better use the Serve card in addition to Bluebird this month. I have had no problems using the Amex Gift Cards to buy VR's 2x$496.05 and then loading them to the Serve card. They do list Amex as someone to pay so I will be paying an amex bill or two, but not the whole amount with that payment to not look funky. I may have to load the old Vanilla Debit card too!! I could not turn down the 6%+ buying the Amex cards with BigCrumbs on special days and the Grandfathered Travelocity Amex card.

JudyJFLA
Interesting to see that Amex Gift Cards can be used to purchase VR. Did it cost you any amount to load the VR into serve? Also did you purchase the VR at 7-11 or CVS?
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Old Dec 16, 2013, 9:57 pm
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Anyone know the daily ATM withdrawal limit? I could only find info on fees serve .com/help/#/fees-and-limits-0
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Old Dec 17, 2013, 1:09 am
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$500 per day and $2000 per month.
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Old Dec 17, 2013, 6:26 am
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Originally Posted by kenme1
Any issue with the cashier or just tell them you wanted to load? Have not tried to load at CVS yet but have been curious....
No issues. The friendly cashier did give me a puzzled look when I indicated that I wanted to reload the card (didn't seem like she had done it before). Then she looked around on her screen, seemed to find the right button(s), scanned my Serve card, and inputted the amount.
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Old Dec 17, 2013, 1:06 pm
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I just payed my discover bill using the Pay bill in serve. Works pretty well.
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Old Dec 17, 2013, 1:25 pm
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Quick search in the thread didn't turn up anything. Does anyone have a phone number available to expedite receiving the card? I know for credit card products there's usually a number to call where you can ask for express delivery. I jumped the gun and purchased some VR but don't have the card information to load the account.

I know, rookie mistake.
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Old Dec 17, 2013, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by mrbrad
Quick search in the thread didn't turn up anything. Does anyone have a phone number available to expedite receiving the card? I know for credit card products there's usually a number to call where you can ask for express delivery. I jumped the gun and purchased some VR but don't have the card information to load the account.

I know, rookie mistake.
I wouldn't hold out hope on this. I have an old-school Serve card (white, not blue, and doesn't have my name on it). I called a little while ago to see if I could get the newer card -- after a couple of transfers and being put on hold for a while, they told me that they could issue a new card, but the old one would become inactive immediately, and it would take about 2 weeks for the new card to arrive, with no way to speed up that timetable. I decided to keep my old-school card.
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Old Dec 18, 2013, 11:49 am
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data point: Just did a single $500 loading at my local CVS. The transaction showed as a cash load on my Serve account and a normal purchase on my Amex card. There was no question asked except for a simple ID check.
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