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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Nov 26, 2013, 2:00 pm
  #1066  
 
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Originally Posted by jonnydoe1234
Breaking news -- Serve website indicates that loading at CVS is possible. Used to say "coming soon" for CVS and 7-11, but now the "coming soon" language only precedes 7-11:

"FREE cash loading at over 7,500 CVS/pharmacy® stores and coming soon at participating 7‑ELEVEN® locations."

I will try in the next few days.
holy cow this could be good
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Old Nov 27, 2013, 2:38 am
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SERVE can be registered for the $10 credit for Small Business Saturday Nov 30th

https://www.americanexpress.com/us/s...ss/Shop-Small/

AFAIK, no other Amex Prepaid card can be registered (including BB).
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Old Nov 27, 2013, 4:42 am
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Email they sent reads, in part:

Add cash to your American Express Serve® Card at the register for FREE at any CVS/pharmacy store and soon at participating 7-ELEVEN locations nationwide. It's a fast and easy way to load your Card and have it ready for the everyday purchases you need to make.

Use your Card to pay bills, buy groceries, and shop virtually anywhere American Express® Cards are accepted. It's easy, safe and secure.

How it Works:
1. Visit a CVS/pharmacy store near you. Find the closest one on CVS.com.
2. Give your cash and Card to the cashier to add money.
3. Your money is added immediately and your funds are ready to use.
Convenient, as you can load cash ala BB @ WM, but I doesn't appear to be beneficial to the points/miles game directly. Or am I missing something?
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Old Nov 27, 2013, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by mooper
Email they sent reads, in part:



Convenient, as you can load cash ala BB @ WM, but I doesn't appear to be beneficial to the points/miles game directly. Or am I missing something?
Again, this is only worth a switch from BB to Serve if CVS takes debit-pin-enabled gift cards, otherwise CASH doesn't do anything for me.

Who has a serve account that can test this out?
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Old Nov 28, 2013, 5:07 pm
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Serve - Another Paypal/Amazon Payments.

I loaded $500 on a new temporary Serve at CVS this week with my Chase Hyatt Visa card.
I hope I can repeat this with the permanent card they are sending me. I am not sure what the limits are - anybody know?
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Old Nov 28, 2013, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by taildragger
I loaded $500 on a new temporary Serve at CVS this week with my Chase Hyatt Visa card.
I hope I can repeat this with the permanent card they are sending me. I am not sure what the limits are - anybody know?
I'd say that you've rather bought the temp card, like One Vanilla or a gift card.
And use of CC is rather normal at the store for that.

The load operation would be different to my mind.
We yet to hear any report on that part.
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Old Nov 30, 2013, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by jonnydoe1234
Yes, it is doable, but it will get your Serve account shut down. Serve doesn't like it when people load their accounts using prepaid cards; they only want you using true debit cards.
Can purchase VR w/ CC > Load to permanent MVD as linked debit > Load to Serve > Transfer to bank account. Allows another $1K/month free on top of $1K/month CC loads and $5K/month cash (VR without the intermediary step) = $7K/month. Correct?
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Old Nov 30, 2013, 11:26 pm
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Dammit. Now Amex is allowing everyone to Sync their Serve cards. Is there any reason I should be sticking with Bluebird?
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Old Nov 30, 2013, 11:45 pm
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So I know that it is a no-no to use gift cards as debit cards on Serve. However, is it safe to use re-loadable prepaid cards like the Nationwide Buxx card? (This way I will only have one debit card on my Serve account and can load with a different CC/GC onto my Buxx card.)

Is this frowned upon by Serve? Will this trigger an account review or flag my account?
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by rambro
Dammit. Now Amex is allowing everyone to Sync their Serve cards. Is there any reason I should be sticking with Bluebird?
I'm thinking the same... time to switch to Serve
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by mooper
Can purchase VR w/ CC > Load to permanent MVD as linked debit > Load to Serve > Transfer to bank account. Allows another $1K/month free on top of $1K/month CC loads and $5K/month cash (VR without the intermediary step) = $7K/month. Correct?
Originally Posted by msnut1
So I know that it is a no-no to use gift cards as debit cards on Serve. However, is it safe to use re-loadable prepaid cards like the Nationwide Buxx card? (This way I will only have one debit card on my Serve account and can load with a different CC/GC onto my Buxx card.)

Is this frowned upon by Serve? Will this trigger an account review or flag my account?
I think permanent debit/reloadable prepaid cards are fine (I think someone earlier reported using the paypal reloadable without problems). I think the key is to have a funding method that won't need to be switched out (or at least to have any switching be very occasional), and it seems like the reloadables meet that test.
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 2:26 pm
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So from reading, it seems the Serve has the same billpay features as Bluebird, can be loaded by debit card up to $1000 per month (limit $100 per day), and can be loaded via Vanilla Reload up to $5000 per month (limit $1000 per day). Is there anything else I'm missing? Because, if so, then that's all I use my Bluebird for anyway and I'm going to switch over.
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 3:00 pm
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No safe way to load with GC. Can load up to $1k per month with credit card. (Chase card did not incur a CA fee). Still waiting on someone test loading with CVS register for no fee. I've been down with the flu and haven't been out to test. I have Serve, hubby has BB. Best of both worlds. Will be signing up family members as they tap me for free flights and I need to replenish.
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Old Dec 1, 2013, 6:45 pm
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Does discover treat the backup funding option as a point of sale, opposed to a cash advance?
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Old Dec 2, 2013, 3:14 pm
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Is Withdrawing money to your own account a Big No No ? For couple of days it did show processing but now the transaction is no where to be seen ? Also no money in my bank account
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