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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Dec 19, 2014, 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Iridium7777
How is that going to work when the "reload card", ie VNR & moneypack don't 'exist' anymore? are all the retailers that used to get VNR & MoneyPacks getting sent some generic barcodes specifically for this transation?
Yes. The PIN cards will be gone. All Vanilla cards will be the same and have a generic barcode.

Originally Posted by Iridium7777
I've been reading on Vanilla reload website and it almost seems like now they're claiming that you bring your Serve card to the register and it gets swiped and then loaded with some method (hopefully CC method). in that case, how are the fees applied? How does the clerk know to tack on 3.95$ to the load, or for that matter 4.95$ for MoneyPak?
How does the register know a can of beans costs $0.78? How does the cashier add $0.78 to your order?

The cashier scans a barcode. The system automatically applies the price.

Originally Posted by Iridium7777
can i just argue with the clerk and say "you should actually load it as a vanila reload and not a moneypack so i can save myself $1?"
Why not? You can pick and choose what you want to buy. Just pickup the Vanilla card on the gift card rack instead of the MoneyPak card.
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Old Dec 20, 2014, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by XP1
Originally Posted by hitman1420
I don't see this in the wiki. I was charged CA fees using a Bank of America (BOA) Alaska Airlines Visa Signature card to load serve
Isn't that included as "Bank of America (FIA) Visa", which was already on the list?
Yep. Fail.

He even added it to the wiki right above that. So sad.
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Old Dec 20, 2014, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by weezl
Targeted. Here's my email:

Cheers to holiday savings! For a limited time, you can get a $1 Account credit for every purchase of $5 or more each using your American Express Serve® Card, up to $50 between December 1 and December 31. No registration needed — just use your Card, and the credit will be added to your Account. Start using your Card today!

Exp Dec 31, 2014
This is a Serve promo.

The $1-off a $1 is a Serve/Softcard promo that requires using Softcard to pay with Serve.
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Old Dec 21, 2014, 11:47 am
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Can someone PM me a referral for Softcard Serve?

Also can someone share their experience on how long it would take to get the physical card once I sign up for Softcard Serve? I am trying to decide whether to get it this month or wait and sign up next month after completing my normal Serve loads for next month.

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Old Dec 21, 2014, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by jaiice
Can someone PM me a referral for Softcard Serve?

Also can someone share their experience on how long it would take to get the physical card once I sign up for Softcard Serve? I am trying to decide whether to get it this month or wait and sign up next month after completing my normal Serve loads for next month.
due to the holidays, mail is quite slow so there's no guarantees you'll receive card in 5 to 7 business days so might be best to fill your loads for this month and then close with zero balance. Then re register a few days before New Year so you get first week of the year.
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Old Dec 22, 2014, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by Mamibear
due to the holidays, mail is quite slow so there's no guarantees you'll receive card in 5 to 7 business days so might be best to fill your loads for this month and then close with zero balance. Then re register a few days before New Year so you get first week of the year.
Thanks for your suggestion. I was also thinking about waiting until next month.

Also, I have received a referral. Thanks!
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Old Dec 22, 2014, 4:11 am
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Originally Posted by sechs
This is a Serve promo.

The $1-off a $1 is a Serve/Softcard promo that requires using Softcard to pay with Serve.
This is not just for purchases! I've been paying my internet and cell phone bill using serve $5 at a time. I got almost all the $50 in Nov and Dec using this method. Just add a penny each time $5, $5.01, etc... If you try to do the same amount on the same day serve declines as a duplicate. I did limit to 5 payments per bill each day. But I have no idea if that was really necessary. I made a few purchases to get the rest of the $50.
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Old Dec 22, 2014, 10:23 am
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EDIT: thanks for my referral SC link

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Old Dec 22, 2014, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by bamacbat
This is not just for purchases! I've been paying my internet and cell phone bill using serve $5 at a time. I got almost all the $50 in Nov and Dec using this method. Just add a penny each time $5, $5.01, etc... If you try to do the same amount on the same day serve declines as a duplicate. I did limit to 5 payments per bill each day. But I have no idea if that was really necessary. I made a few purchases to get the rest of the $50.
you are still tapping to pay right?
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Old Dec 22, 2014, 9:56 pm
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Newbie that has read a lot here, but before I pay my CC with my serve acct, I want to be absolutely sure that I can load serve and unload serve with the exact same CC acct? I've seen it said on here: pay CC with serve, but I can't remember it specifically saying that the load CC and pay CC can be the same. It seems CC issuer would know that I loaded serve with their CC and then I paid them with the same funds.

Or should I send serve funds to linked bank account and then pay CC? It seems this would be the way to go, however surely would be easier to use same CC acct to load and unload serve.
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Old Dec 22, 2014, 10:17 pm
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Originally Posted by dedixon
Newbie that has read a lot here, but before I pay my CC with my serve acct, I want to be absolutely sure that I can load serve and unload serve with the exact same CC acct? I've seen it said on here: pay CC with serve, but I can't remember it specifically saying that the load CC and pay CC can be the same. It seems CC issuer would know that I loaded serve with their CC and then I paid them with the same funds.

Or should I send serve funds to linked bank account and then pay CC? It seems this would be the way to go, however surely would be easier to use same CC acct to load and unload serve.
Do NOT use the Serve bill-pay to pay the exact same CC that you use to load Serve. Amex (Serve) will shut you down. Pay a different credit card, or just transfer from Serve to your bank account.
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Old Dec 23, 2014, 1:15 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
Do NOT use the Serve bill-pay to pay the exact same CC that you use to load Serve. Amex (Serve) will shut you down. Pay a different credit card, or just transfer from Serve to your bank account.
Paid same cc for at least one year and a half since BB. No issue at all.
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Old Dec 23, 2014, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
Do NOT use the Serve bill-pay to pay the exact same CC that you use to load Serve. Amex (Serve) will shut you down. Pay a different credit card, or just transfer from Serve to your bank account.
Totally incorrect. Nobody ever reports being shut down because of this but that does not prevent some being paranoid and make believe of something that is only in their imagination and is totally false.

Originally Posted by ericliujian
Paid same cc for at least one year and a half since BB. No issue at all.
Yup.
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Old Dec 23, 2014, 5:38 am
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When you use bill pay, does AMEX put your name anywhere on the check?

If I send a bill payment to one of my CCs from my S.O.'s Serve account, will it have her name on it anywhere? Anyone have experience with this (have you done bill pay to yourself, or someone you know as an individual and looked at the check that arrived)
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Old Dec 23, 2014, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Ritley572
When you use bill pay, does AMEX put your name anywhere on the check?

If I send a bill payment to one of my CCs from my S.O.'s Serve account, will it have her name on it anywhere? Anyone have experience with this (have you done bill pay to yourself, or someone you know as an individual and looked at the check that arrived)
The recipient does NOT see ANYTHING, except the account number that the money is sent to. It is all done automatically electronically via ACH. They are not paper checks, not even electronic checks, but ACH.

You can pay ANYONE's bill from your account. It does not make an iota difference.

In any case, even if you pay your CC bill the old fashion way by writing a paper check, the check can be from ANYONE.
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