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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 1:07 pm
  #7966  
 
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Originally Posted by huggin
My FIA Amex transaction was treated as Cash Advance on 11/10
are you sure? here is what I had on 11/11 on FIA AX card:


Transaction date:11/11/2014
Card type:American Express
Transaction type:Purchases
Merchant description:MISC/SPECIALTY RETAIL (FIREWRKS, TROPHIES, GRAVESTONES)
Merchant information:ST PETERSBURG, FLOffer ID:XXXXXX
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by dingo
So I now have:
- IPhone 5 from ATT
- cashwrap mobile wallet case for ATT iphone5
- cancelled my wife's BB account
- downloaded the mobile wallet app from iTunes

I have not yet put the case on; the phone is traveling w/ its owner.

Can anyone talk me through what I need to do to order the Serve card for my wife who formerly had a BB?

PM is fine w/ me!
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by rgAAFT
Maybe it's triggered by multiple card switches within a short amount of time?
I had to do the verification when I added my FIRST and the ONLY CC A+ - it stopped working on 2nd load and I had to go thru the drill. I was promised they could conference barclays to take care of it but they failed to get it done claiming barclays would not release info, so I had the rep on the phone and uploaded the needed docs (passport copy and statement copy) and the card was cleared immediately.

I think it is a highly YMMV situation - if you dont need to, thank your lucky star. If you have to, just do it and dont wonder why some do not need to do it. simple as that.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by dingo
So I now have:
- IPhone 5 from ATT
- cashwrap mobile wallet case for ATT iphone5
- cancelled my wife's BB account
- downloaded the mobile wallet app from iTunes

I have not yet put the case on; the phone is traveling w/ its owner.

Can anyone talk me through what I need to do to order the Serve card for my wife who formerly had a BB?

PM is fine w/ me!
You got it all. Just put the wrap case on and open ISIS/Softcard wallet app. You will need to register for ISIS account (different from Serve acct) and it will ask you if you want to apply for Serve. You might need to use SSN trick if applying with your real SSN is not working.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 2:02 pm
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Please read the wiki before posting.

Especially if you're considering adding "data point" to your post.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by huggin
My FIA Amex transaction was treated as Cash Advance on 11/10
I made a $200 load with Fido this morning and everything looks normal. Cash credit line is untouched - amount has been deducted from the regular CL.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 4:25 pm
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I had Serve card and Isis serve, soft card app on my smart phone. Used to pay with NFC in stores.

I cancelled the Serve card in order to sign up for Redbird, I can no longer use the soft card app? Can no longer do wireless NFC payment in store?

If I can still use this feature, do I get exact points/miles the card offers? Like if I link my chase SP on my soft card app and pay with phone, do I still get 2 points in restaurants?
Thanks
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 6:10 pm
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Only One Credit Card at a Time?

Originally Posted by DziVang
Read wiki again and again. You will need to call Serve to identify your identity after your first load with any new credit cards.
The wiki is silent on whether you can have more than one CC linked to your Serve account, but that looks to be the case. So to add a CC you first have to delete the existing one?
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 6:19 pm
  #7974  
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Originally Posted by Middle_Seat
The wiki is silent on whether you can have more than one CC linked to your Serve account, but that looks to be the case.
You don't need the wiki to tell you this.

When you want to add a card to Serve, the webpage tells you:

"Linking allows you to add money into your American Express Serve® Account right from your bank account, debit or credit card. You may link one bank account, debit card, and credit card. See Transaction Limits for your Account."

Source:
https://secure.serve.com/Profile/FundingSources

Originally Posted by Middle_Seat
So to add a CC you first have to delete the existing one?
Yes.

You can only have one credit card at a time.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by XP1
You can only have one credit card at a time.
Thank you for the confirmation, XP1. I've added it to the wiki.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Julian Brennan
I made a $200 load with Fido this morning and everything looks normal. Cash credit line is untouched - amount has been deducted from the regular CL.
+1 Loaded with FIA Amex on 11/14 - coded as purchase.
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Old Nov 15, 2014, 8:50 pm
  #7977  
 
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Originally Posted by kmhills22
Seems like loading Serve at Family Dollar is dead/dying in NYC. I was able to load at various Family Dollar's in October, but was denied this past weekend. I went to 6 different locations and was told it was cash only. Apparently there was fraud recently that caused them to shut it down. I will continue to try other stores outside of Brooklyn to see if its truly shut down, but as of now, its looking that way.
Was in Richmond earlier this week (not my usual stomping ground) and FD there was also cash only.
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 3:09 am
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Is there a way to activate my sub-account/authorized user Serve card without calling in? I added myself as a sub-account to my wife's Serve card to take advantage of SBS. The new card has a sticker saying to call the service phone number or go to serve.com/activate. I went to the website and typed in the card number and my name, but it says it does not recognize the number. Is this typical? Am I forced to call?
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 5:02 am
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Loading at Dollar General

Has anyone used a VGC to load their Serve account at a Dollar General store. Thanks for any help.
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Old Nov 16, 2014, 6:48 am
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Originally Posted by shanna135
Has anyone used a VGC to load their Serve account at a Dollar General store. Thanks for any help.
@ Family Dollar, yes; afaik, DG doesn't load Serve. It would be convinient if DG can load Serve, too. More stores to load them, the better.
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