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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 3:44 pm
  #7906  
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Has anyone experienced this before?

Attempt to load $200 VGC to serve using Kate, and get "fatal error" "see store associate". Proceed to leave wm without seeking assistance, and later on in the evening head to a different wm. Attempt to load serve using same VGC at money center (with wm employee). Load successful, but later on that night, serve account shows two different successful $200 loads at wm from that day...

As in, some kind of glitch that enabled one $200 VGC to do two different $200 loads.....

???

Anyone had that experience before?

(NOT saying I have................................)
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Auerbach
Tried to load funds to Serve at Family Dollar for the first time this evening using a VR (the one that stays in the store). The cashier said that it kept saying "Visa Tender Not Allowed." I tried using both my Marriott Rewards Visa and my Chase Sapphire preferred Visa. Same issue with both. At no point was I prompted for my PIN. Is there a step I'm missing?
So I didn't quite understand the process in my post quoted above. I spent some time this morning educating myself and was able to load successfully at FD this evening. I bought a US Bank-issued Visa GC from a grocery store chain (using my Amex Blue Pref which got me the 6% cash reward to offset the GC fee). I then called the phone # in the wiki to set my PIN, went down the street to FD, and went to the GC rack. I was surprised to find the rack completely empty, but no worries since the clerk had the in-store VRC behind the counter. I told her I wanted to load some funds onto my Serve. She asked if I used VRC to do it, and I said yes. She had to have the manager come over to type in a code, then she scanned the VRC, told me to scan my Serve card, and asked me how much I wanted to add. I told her $100 from my debit card. She said OK and told me to swipe my debit card (which was really my Visa GC), the I was prompted for my GC PIN, which I entered. I immediately felt my phone buzz with an email telling me that funds had been added to my Serve card. The clerk then handed me my receipt.

Hopefully this play-by-play is helpful to other noobs like me, or for anyone who likes having the most up-to-date info on the process (which I understand can change without notice).
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 5:55 pm
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Couldn't load visa/MC gift cards from giftcardmall/Safeway at Walmart. Any ideas on how to load these to serve?
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 6:39 pm
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Originally Posted by kmhills22
Worked for me 2 weeks ago but was told cash only at 6 FD's this past weekend. Looks like the jig is up
I loaded successfully today at 1 of the FDs I go to. I'll try the other one tomorrow.
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by rarar
Couldn't load visa/MC gift cards from giftcardmall/Safeway at Walmart. Any ideas on how to load these to serve?
Do you not know how to load them or are you saying that it no longer works?
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Old Nov 11, 2014, 7:45 pm
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I am trying to sign up for Isis Serve using my sister's line.How do I sign up for Isis serve on my sister's Tmobile line?
Her phone that she uses and likes is not compatible with NFC.
I have an extra phone NFC capable phone and I have the soft card Sim too. Does the sim have to be registered to her number when signing up for Isis Serve? The sim she has in her phone will be Invalid if I sign up for Isis serve on my phone? can I sign up for Isis serve for her without touching or replacing her sim?
Thanks

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Old Nov 11, 2014, 8:29 pm
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Originally Posted by HGF
Do you not know how to load them or are you saying that it no longer works?
The cashier didn't want me to use the gift card. I tried anyway, the transaction didn't go through and he warned me against doing so.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 12:26 am
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 1:55 am
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BIG WARNING: As stated in the wiki: "Citi Visa - Posts as a Cash Advance!!"

I switched cards and started using the citi visa I had, instead of the MC... and boom. Citi was going to hit me with $40 in fees plus interest. Luckily they spoke with me and agreed to post a courtesy credit to erase all of that. Thank. Gooodness.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 6:17 am
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Originally Posted by Preacher7
So the Barclays Arrival Plus card isn't treating online credit card loads as cash advances, and you're getting points for the transactions? The wiki seems to indicate that, but I just wanted to make sure...
I have done all 5 of my $200 loads with Arrival MC this month and got points. You are fine.

Originally Posted by rxgeek
I was at multiple FD's this week where the clerks would not load my Serve card with Visa GC's. They said the policy is cash only. Is this regional or spreading across the country?
I just loaded yesterday at FD with OV GC from a drugstore no issues.

Try again with a different clerk or different store.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 6:18 am
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Originally Posted by fotoflyer88
BIG WARNING: As stated in the wiki: "Citi Visa - Posts as a Cash Advance!!"

I switched cards and started using the citi visa I had, instead of the MC... and boom. Citi was going to hit me with $40 in fees plus interest. Luckily they spoke with me and agreed to post a courtesy credit to erase all of that. Thank. Gooodness.
/facepalm
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 9:12 am
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when I registered softcard account on my phone, I entered my email and new password, then the PIN, then I got the error: "The request contains one or more parameters that are invalid"
it did not ask me if i want to open a serve account (yet).

Did anyone have the issue before?
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by rxgeek
I was at multiple FD's this week where the clerks would not load my Serve card with Visa GC's. They said the policy is cash only. Is this regional or spreading across the country?
I was told the same thing at one FD where I usually go this Sunday. (NY area). Tried a different one today and reload worked fine. Looks like some stores are stopping it, but the system still accepts it.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by hamokmonky
/facepalm
Yupp.. My mistake, i changed the card without thinking to check on wiki (cause of a promo), etc.. luckily i have a lot of business with Citi and their reps are awesome at taking care of me, I don't do MS except for serve, don't think I'll continue after this headache.
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Old Nov 12, 2014, 10:09 am
  #7920  
 
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Got a "decline" message today at FD using a OV and sprinted here to see if anyone had seen this recently.

I do between 10-20 OVs per month at FD and never run into this issue. Occasional manager who says "cash only" but never a system that rejected me.

Will try two more local FDs after work and report back. Been Dreading the end of the OV loads
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