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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 10:50 am
  #6721  
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: New York
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Choose "Send Money" and use the BB acct email address. No different than sending between Serve accts.
Oh, for the love of MS, I should have just kept it simple! Good call ^
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 10:52 am
  #6722  
 
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I'm going to try my first FD load this week (not too many nearby). Do they check ID to load? I still have a BB but I carry my wife's old Serve (diff last name). Will they let me load that?
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 10:57 am
  #6723  
 
Join Date: May 2014
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Originally Posted by EightBall
So I had the problem back in July where my Serve load at FD was rejected (someone must have been at the store earlier than me). I did not get the funds immediately restored to my debit card. Store manager has been in contact with corporate and I have been told multiple times I'll receive a refund to the card, but nearly two months later this has still not happened. I'm about to file a small claims lawsuit, but was hoping someone here might have a contact number for someone in corporate who could still get this fixed the easy way and save all of us the trouble of a lawsuit. Anyone? Thanks.
You could also reach out through social media: Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.

If you go the SCC route, make sure you understand your jurisdiction's SCC standard, and the rules pertaining to hearsay in SCC.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 11:29 am
  #6724  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
I'm going to try my first FD load this week (not too many nearby). Do they check ID to load? I still have a BB but I carry my wife's old Serve (diff last name). Will they let me load that?
YMMV. Most of mine don't. The ones who won't take debit are up front about it so you should ask.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 11:43 am
  #6725  
 
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Originally Posted by EightBall
So I had the problem back in July where my Serve load at FD was rejected (someone must have been at the store earlier than me). I did not get the funds immediately restored to my debit card. Store manager has been in contact with corporate and I have been told multiple times I'll receive a refund to the card, but nearly two months later this has still not happened. I'm about to file a small claims lawsuit, but was hoping someone here might have a contact number for someone in corporate who could still get this fixed the easy way and save all of us the trouble of a lawsuit. Anyone? Thanks.
I called corporate directly at this number 866-377-6420. I described my problem and was transferred to someone who was extremely helpful. She said she had to get a supervisor to reverse it and when that was approved she would call me back. A few hours later she called and told me it was taken care of and that it could take a many as 30 days to receive the funds back on my card. It actually took about 6 days. Hope it helps
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 11:59 am
  #6726  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Have Serve Card, Have ISIS/Softcard App, but don't have 1500 Limit - HELP!

I truly apologize up front, as this is such a long thread and I read about 20 different pages to try and find the answer, but couldn't read all the pages - SORRY IN ADVANCE - Probably this question has been answered already, but here goes anyway - If someone can point me to a place that this is clearly explained, I would be VERY grateful.

So, here’s my situation.

I already had the ISIS app installed on my phone. So the instructions about getting the option to sign up for Serve (when you first install ISIS), was not an option for me, as I was not installing it for the first time. I looked, but couldn’t see anything about signing up for Serve on my ISIS app.

So, I applied for a Serve card from Amex (having closed my Bluebird card first) and then added the Serve card to my mobile wallet on ISIS.

Then I went to Serve to try and load the $500 daily limit to my account from a credit card, and was only able to add $200.

I called Serve / American Express and they directed me to Softcard. Softcard told me that the issue was with Serve/American Express and transferred me back. Then I got the shock of my life when I spoke to Serve/Amex and they told me that if I wanted a Serve account through Softcard, that I would have to close my Serve account with Amex and open up one with Softcard. I had assumed it was all the same thing.

So, my issue is how to get a Serve account linked with ISIS (to get the $500 daily limit) if you ALREADY have a Serve account from Amex and you ALREADY have a Softcard account setup on your phone?

I tried uninstalling the softcard app on my phone, but it won’t uninstall all the way. I was hoping by reinstalling it, it would ask me to setup an account and let me go through the Serve signup process.

Does anyone know what to do? I would be really grateful for some constructive advice. Thank you and sorry again if this has been talked about already.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 12:04 pm
  #6727  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,012
Originally Posted by azcoyote
Verizon updated their ISIS-Softcard FAQ's today with the following language related to iPhones:

"For iPhones®: The name of the app for iPhone will continue to be Isis Mobile Wallet. Existing customers with an iPhone 4, 4s, 5 and 5s and a compatible case can continue to use the existing downloaded version of Isis Mobile Wallet. New customers will not be able to use the Isis Wallet."

http://www.verizonwireless.com/suppo.../softcard.html
So it's being phased out, I guess?
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 12:15 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2014
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Originally Posted by MarkSilver
I truly apologize up front, as this is such a long thread and I read about 20 different pages to try and find the answer, but couldn't read all the pages - SORRY IN ADVANCE - Probably this question has been answered already, but here goes anyway - If someone can point me to a place that this is clearly explained, I would be VERY grateful.

So, here’s my situation.

I already had the ISIS app installed on my phone. So the instructions about getting the option to sign up for Serve (when you first install ISIS), was not an option for me, as I was not installing it for the first time. I looked, but couldn’t see anything about signing up for Serve on my ISIS app.

So, I applied for a Serve card from Amex (having closed my Bluebird card first) and then added the Serve card to my mobile wallet on ISIS.

Then I went to Serve to try and load the $500 daily limit to my account from a credit card, and was only able to add $200.

I called Serve / American Express and they directed me to Softcard. Softcard told me that the issue was with Serve/American Express and transferred me back. Then I got the shock of my life when I spoke to Serve/Amex and they told me that if I wanted a Serve account through Softcard, that I would have to close my Serve account with Amex and open up one with Softcard. I had assumed it was all the same thing.

So, my issue is how to get a Serve account linked with ISIS (to get the $500 daily limit) if you ALREADY have a Serve account from Amex and you ALREADY have a Softcard account setup on your phone?

I tried uninstalling the softcard app on my phone, but it won’t uninstall all the way. I was hoping by reinstalling it, it would ask me to setup an account and let me go through the Serve signup process.

Does anyone know what to do? I would be really grateful for some constructive advice. Thank you and sorry again if this has been talked about already.
Cancel serve, wait, start over through Isis. I'm not sure how long you must wait to switch from Serve to Isis/Serve. I applied for serve through "add a card" in the app, I think. I had to search around in the app before I found it though.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 12:26 pm
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Join Date: Jul 2014
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Originally Posted by MarkSilver
I truly apologize up front, as this is such a long thread and I read about 20 different pages to try and find the answer, but couldn't read all the pages - SORRY IN ADVANCE - Probably this question has been answered already, but here goes anyway - If someone can point me to a place that this is clearly explained, I would be VERY grateful.

So, here’s my situation.

I already had the ISIS app installed on my phone. So the instructions about getting the option to sign up for Serve (when you first install ISIS), was not an option for me, as I was not installing it for the first time. I looked, but couldn’t see anything about signing up for Serve on my ISIS app.

So, I applied for a Serve card from Amex (having closed my Bluebird card first) and then added the Serve card to my mobile wallet on ISIS.

Then I went to Serve to try and load the $500 daily limit to my account from a credit card, and was only able to add $200.

I called Serve / American Express and they directed me to Softcard. Softcard told me that the issue was with Serve/American Express and transferred me back. Then I got the shock of my life when I spoke to Serve/Amex and they told me that if I wanted a Serve account through Softcard, that I would have to close my Serve account with Amex and open up one with Softcard. I had assumed it was all the same thing.

So, my issue is how to get a Serve account linked with ISIS (to get the $500 daily limit) if you ALREADY have a Serve account from Amex and you ALREADY have a Softcard account setup on your phone?

I tried uninstalling the softcard app on my phone, but it won’t uninstall all the way. I was hoping by reinstalling it, it would ask me to setup an account and let me go through the Serve signup process.

Does anyone know what to do? I would be really grateful for some constructive advice. Thank you and sorry again if this has been talked about already.
first tell me if I understood it correctly,

you just registered for Serve-SC and was able to load $200 immediately, is that correct?

If yes and you're still waiting on your physical card, then that is the usual process and there's nothing wrong with your account. But if you already have your physical card and activated it and still not able to load $500 daily max of $1500 a month, that is when you call them for assistance.

Even if you see your card in your Softcard account, you still need your physical card activated for you to be able to use functions like B/P or send money and the like.

If I misunderstood, I apologize in advance.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 12:50 pm
  #6730  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Originally Posted by compddd
Thanks guys, worked perfectly
How long does it take for the fonds to get transferred from Serve to BB?
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 12:53 pm
  #6731  
 
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Originally Posted by carlitos
How long does it take for the fonds to get transferred from Serve to BB?
immediately
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 12:56 pm
  #6732  
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
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Originally Posted by MarkSilver
So, my issue is how to get a Serve account linked with ISIS (to get the $500 daily limit) if you ALREADY have a Serve account from Amex and you ALREADY have a Softcard account setup on your phone?
Cancel you current Serve acct. Then apply for the new one. When I did it several months back, I did both the same day. I believe you still can. When you apply for the new one, go into Softcard and choose "Add a new card" or something like that. Choose to add a card that is currently NOT listed in the options (i.e. Amex, Wells Fargo). It should take you to the webpage to either sign up for Serve or login existing acct. You obviously want to sign up.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 1:05 pm
  #6733  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 747
Originally Posted by Mamibear
first tell me if I understood it correctly,

you just registered for Serve-SC and was able to load $200 immediately, is that correct?

If yes and you're still waiting on your physical card, then that is the usual process and there's nothing wrong with your account. But if you already have your physical card and activated it and still not able to load $500 daily max of $1500 a month, that is when you call them for assistance.

Even if you see your card in your Softcard account, you still need your physical card activated for you to be able to use functions like B/P or send money and the like.

If I misunderstood, I apologize in advance.

Any idea how long after activation it takes to update for the $500/$1500? Received my card today and activated, added a CC for funding source however still only seeing $200 option.

***Edit*** - Nevermind, took about 15 minutes to update. Successfully loaded $500 and received the additional $15 AT&T credit
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 3:16 pm
  #6734  
 
Join Date: May 2014
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Programs: BA, AA, SPG, HLTN, ETC
Posts: 365
The way the post before mine was written I think I have my answer, but I just wanted to make sure. I am currently in the process of waiting for my physical card for ISIS. I signed up through the app and everything seems to be set up correctly. When I activate my physical card on the Serve website will my limits change at that point or do I need to do anything else inside the ISIS app? I am hoping to trade in my 5S for the new iPhone this weekend and my physical card may not be here till the beginning of next week...so just wondering if I need the app anymore once I've signed up.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 4:24 pm
  #6735  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,504
Originally Posted by air360
The way the post before mine was written I think I have my answer, but I just wanted to make sure. I am currently in the process of waiting for my physical card for ISIS. I signed up through the app and everything seems to be set up correctly. When I activate my physical card on the Serve website will my limits change at that point or do I need to do anything else inside the ISIS app? I am hoping to trade in my 5S for the new iPhone this weekend and my physical card may not be here till the beginning of next week...so just wondering if I need the app anymore once I've signed up.
Do you plan to use the NFC purchases via the Serve card? If not then you don't need the app anymore. Everything from here on out you do via the Serve website.
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