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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by mintcilantro
I can tell you what worked for me. I got a t mo galaxy light with isis SIM. I signed up for the serve a/c myself. Then a couple of days later, I reset the phone to factory settings and inserted another ISIS enabled sim card and signed up my wife. I got the $50 bonus on both accounts and $1500/mo CC load limits.

I bought this phone for $100 so it worked out great. I also got the $50 direct deposit bonuses again.

I don't care about making real purchases with ISIS app so I don't know much about that.
what happens to my isis account if I sign up for my other line using my own cell number? How do I do this? BTW< the other line i was talking about ha galaxy s2 which only takes the big sim card not isis sim.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by payeco
It's always been $500 per store for some length of time less than 24 hours and more than a few hours. Someone on here a while back reported loading in the same store early in the morning and again late in the evening.

I thought I was the only one doing loads at FDs in my area until it was declined at one store and manager told me someone had already come in earlier and done a large load. Luckily I knew I had to wait and swipe again to reload the funds back to the OV. The employees, including the manager, did not know that.
Yes, even though Ive been going there at least weekly for around a month, they still don't really know what they're doing. The first load I told the woman how to do it. Since then Ive gotten all kinds of random things from the employees. ID over 100$, debit only no credit-asked to see card/id, one load per 48hr. Time to start using the other location.
Forgot to mention, today, after the 48hr rule was stated he said ok well see what happens. After swiping my VGC he asked to see the card. I usually present a CSB debit card that looks very similar to the VGC, but he watched my swipe. He glanced at the card that clearly read gift, and handed it right back.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 6:34 pm
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Originally Posted by fishll
Yes, even though Ive been going there at least weekly for around a month, they still don't really know what they're doing. The first load I told the woman how to do it. Since then Ive gotten all kinds of random things from the employees. ID over 100$, debit only no credit-asked to see card/id, one load per 48hr. Time to start using the other location.
Forgot to mention, today, after the 48hr rule was stated he said ok well see what happens. After swiping my VGC he asked to see the card. I usually present a CSB debit card that looks very similar to the VGC, but he watched my swipe. He glanced at the card that clearly read gift, and handed it right back.
My main one that no one else seems to go to I visit 4 or 5 times a week. As long as you make a little chit chat the ladies don't seem to care. One asked me if I was a secret millionaire in a playful way and I just laughed and told her I just have a lot of bills to pay. Today, one even gave me a Vanilla Reload to keep because the store is getting low (don't know why, they're supposed to reuse them). I pretty much use only OVs there. Even though no one has ever asked to see it, they could pass a real debit more than any other GC with the metallic finish, embossed numbers and the word "gift" is nowhere to be found on it.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by payeco
My main one that no one else seems to go to I visit 4 or 5 times a week. As long as you make a little chit chat the ladies don't seem to care. One asked me if I was a secret millionaire in a playful way and I just laughed and told her I just have a lot of bills to pay. Today, one even gave me a Vanilla Reload to keep because the store is getting low (don't know why, they're supposed to reuse them). I pretty much use only OVs there. Even though no one has ever asked to see it, they could pass a real debit more than any other GC with the metallic finish, embossed numbers and the word "gift" is nowhere to be found on it.
Where do you buy your OVs?
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by googs185
Where do you buy your OVs?
Drug stores. The three big chains all sell them. Some allow more to be purchased at once than others.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by payeco
Drug stores. The three big chains all sell them. Some allow more to be purchased at once than others.
Oh, ok. What is the fee on each card? Do any credit cards offer extra point multipliers at drug stores? And I thought you couldn't buy gift cards on CC at CVS?
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 10:09 pm
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Question: my Serve balance is nearly zero, having used up my online credit card loads for the month already and spent all of it in bill pay. If I go shopping with ISIS Wallet, will it just charge my backup credit card when balance goes past $0? Is there a limit on this?
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by msp3
Question: my Serve balance is nearly zero, having used up my online credit card loads for the month already and spent all of it in bill pay. If I go shopping with ISIS Wallet, will it just charge my backup credit card when balance goes past $0? Is there a limit on this?
$2500 per month in CC backup funding when your Serve balance is $0.
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Old Sep 9, 2014, 12:35 am
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I been searching this thread to loading my Serve card at WM but is it true?

1) OV - i can no longer load OV at WM POS now. Kate still works.

2) Greendot MoneyPack - I can load at WM POS. No problems.

3) Netspend - I can't find any info. Can I load at WM POS?

4) Paypal Prepad MC - Can I also load at WM POS?

Thanks

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Old Sep 9, 2014, 1:13 am
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Originally Posted by payeco
$2500 per month in CC backup funding when your Serve balance is $0.
Thank you!
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Old Sep 9, 2014, 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by stark4
I been searching this thread to loading my Serve card at WM but is it true?

1) OV - i can no longer load OV at WM POS now. Kate still works.
==Kate takes OVs, VGCs, Sunrise etc with no problems. As of Sept 7, OVs still work at regular registers at SOME WMs. AS ALWAYS, YMMV depending on your location.

2) Greendot MoneyPack - I can load at WM POS. No problems.
==You don't need WM to load MPs to a loadable prepaid. This is just like VRs, RLs, you can load anywhere at your convinience.

3) Netspend - I can't find any info. Can I load at WM POS?
==Can't buy this with CC at most drugstores (YMMV) and these are like VRs,RLs, MPs. NO WM needed to transfer funds from this to reloadable prepaids.

4) Paypal Prepad MC - Can I also load at WM POS?
==You don't need WM for this as well. You load this to your PP account at anytime at your convinience not to exceed $4K/month.

Thanks
for more details, read threads discussing those.
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Old Sep 9, 2014, 7:11 am
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For ISIS, is the approved phone list an exclusive list? I have an old phone (Samsung Captivate Glide) that has NFC that isn't on the list for any of the providers. I was thinking I'd try to get a pre-paid account with ATT or Tmo and try to enroll. My wife has a Samsung S4 with ATT, so maybe a sim card swap would work there? The goal is to get two accounts up and running.
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Old Sep 9, 2014, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by payeco
$2500 per month in CC backup funding when your Serve balance is $0.
any advice for activating isis/softcard please?
-downloaded isis app
-app says "enhanced SIM" required
-tried ordering enhanced SIM.. "device to supported"
-how do you actually get isis to work please?
thanks
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Old Sep 9, 2014, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by dcpilgrim
For ISIS, is the approved phone list an exclusive list? I have an old phone (Samsung Captivate Glide) that has NFC that isn't on the list for any of the providers. I was thinking I'd try to get a pre-paid account with ATT or Tmo and try to enroll. My wife has a Samsung S4 with ATT, so maybe a sim card swap would work there? The goal is to get two accounts up and running.
Please report back on your findings.
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Old Sep 9, 2014, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by payeco
My main one that no one else seems to go to I visit 4 or 5 times a week. As long as you make a little chit chat the ladies don't seem to care. One asked me if I was a secret millionaire in a playful way and I just laughed and told her I just have a lot of bills to pay. Today, one even gave me a Vanilla Reload to keep because the store is getting low (don't know why, they're supposed to reuse them). I pretty much use only OVs there. Even though no one has ever asked to see it, they could pass a real debit more than any other GC with the metallic finish, embossed numbers and the word "gift" is nowhere to be found on it.
Is it still fee free to load at FD? The last time I went they wanted 3.95, said it had never been free at their store. I was only loading 100 balance on a card and didn't want to spend the cash. If no answers I can try myself on way home.

Just got the Old blue card and need to spend 6500 quickly.
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