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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Sep 5, 2014, 8:53 pm
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Originally Posted by woow14610
So I went to the W today and tried to use the MC attendant to load my ISIS serve. I had one OV. She asked me to swipe the ISIS card did so. and asked for the amount and prompted me to accept. I did so and then I swiped my OV card and it got rejected. She said only debit or cash is allowed and I worked out acting dumb. So does this means that she thought I am loading a blue bird card? Is the following sequence a must even at the MC. Is this the normal sequence to add any debit card regardless of being OV or not. Or is this a some kind of a trick.

70 -> Action Code -> Then press the key for "Load" (I think it's 1)

Thanks.
you might instead want to check out the OV thread and see the problems people are having with it at W.
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Old Sep 5, 2014, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by woow14610
So I went to the W today and tried to use the MC attendant to load my ISIS serve. I had one OV. She asked me to swipe the ISIS card did so. and asked for the amount and prompted me to accept. I did so and then I swiped my OV card and it got rejected. She said only debit or cash is allowed and I worked out acting dumb. So does this means that she thought I am loading a blue bird card? Is the following sequence a must even at the MC. Is this the normal sequence to add any debit card regardless of being OV or not. Or is this a some kind of a trick.

70 -> Action Code -> Then press the key for "Load" (I think it's 1)

Thanks.
If OV you mean OneVanilla, then obviously you have A Lot to read because you not just act dumb... you are literally clueless.

Please read the Wiki on all related threads, especially this one:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...ing-ov-wm.html

Furthermore, it does not matter whether you are loading ISIS Serve, regular Serve, BB, or buying MO, or Bill Pay, the process of payment is IDENTICAL.

The rejection of OV has nothing to do with what you are loading, Serve or BB, does not matter an iota.

Information are scattered around on all related threads, BB, Serve, MO, Bill Pay, etc etc because they are all the functions people perform at WMT. You have a lot of reading to do, start with the Wiki of each thread. The answers to your questions and more are all there.

Finally, get other GCs than Vanilla varieties to make your learning curve less steep.
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Old Sep 5, 2014, 10:02 pm
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I am convinced this guy is a troll. Look at his post history and see for yourself.
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 12:35 am
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Originally Posted by Sinurgy
When adding a Payee I did a search for an existing business and it correctly found "Great Lakes Higher Education", I selected it and on the following screen added my account number and zip code of the payee but when I submit I get an error saying either the account number or the zip code is incorrect. At this point I've quadruple checked and I'm positive they are both right so I'm at a loss on what to do.

Anyone else encountered this issue? I tried to call Serve tech support but my god what a nightmare. Nice people but they're close to useless!

Encounter this same problem several times already.
Last time I tried to pay my NYC water-sewer utility bill I got errors no matter what I tried. I typed in NYC water board and it accepted this, then ask for acct. and zip code. Enter acct number with no problems but unable to enter zip code. Won't accept after many tries. Finally gave up and took out my checkbook and mailed it out.
Tried to get the system to use as bill pay by having them sending out a check but couldn't figure out how to do so. Any ideas?
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by andres17
Went today to load my second $2,500 at WallyW. The cashier at the MC said that the max was 2k per day. Said the computer told her that. Is this a new policy? I was able to do my first $2,500 just two days ago without any problems. This would suck, an extra visit
My understanding of this is AMEX limits loads to $2,500 per day but WALMART limits load to either $1,999 or $2,000 at a given register or Kate for certain period of time (aka "velocity limit").

If you want to load the full $2,500 in one visit to WallyWorld, you can load $1,999 at one register/Kate and then either (1) go to another register/Kate and load $501 (2) walk around for 10-15 minutes and try the same register/Kate again.

I just loaded $2,400+ yesterday by using a register for $900 and then immediately going to Kate for the rest.
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 10:34 am
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Does UFB debit still earn miles for Serve / BB on-line loads?
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 11:54 am
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I'm trying to add a new credit card to my Serve account, and I'm getting the following error, when adding a card:

You have the following errors. We're sorry, something went wrong! Please try again.

What could it be? I've never seen that one before. The card is a Priceline 2x from Barclays.
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by yugi
I'm trying to add a new credit card to my Serve account, and I'm getting the following error, when adding a card:

You have the following errors. We're sorry, something went wrong! Please try again.

What could it be? I've never seen that one before. The card is a Priceline 2x from Barclays.
The two times I received that message it was to confirm identity and or the credit card but I was trying to add to Serve. Once I uploaded copies of the required documents, I was able to add funds to my Serve account.
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by yugi
I'm trying to add a new credit card to my Serve account, and I'm getting the following error, when adding a card:

You have the following errors. We're sorry, something went wrong! Please try again.

What could it be? I've never seen that one before. The card is a Priceline 2x from Barclays.
I got that message on my third load of my Chase Freedom (the first two $500 loads went fine). I called Serve and the rep found that I need to check with Chase since they didn't need to approve anything on their end. I called Chase and immediately got prompts to verify my load attempts. Once I verified them, I successfully performed the third load. So you may want to also want to see if you have a fraud alert on your card.
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by swazzie
I got that message on my third load of my Chase Freedom (the first two $500 loads went fine). I called Serve and the rep found that I need to check with Chase since they didn't need to approve anything on their end. I called Chase and immediately got prompts to verify my load attempts. Once I verified them, I successfully performed the third load. So you may want to also want to see if you have a fraud alert on your card.
I'm not trying to load anything yet. I'm trying to add the card to my Serve, and getting this message.
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 3:36 pm
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Just a note with RL. They are not officially setup to load with Serve, and I've already had to call Customer Service with an issue, so load at your own risk.

It may work most of the time, but if you have a problem they will tell you it is not officially ready as they are not a partner on the RL site yet (They were there and taken down).

Took a long time to correct the issue.
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Old Sep 6, 2014, 11:15 pm
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Today add money with CC online have this new warning:"Cash advance fees for credit card loads may apply; please check with your credit card issuer for details." Anyone saw that? Were it there before?

Last edited by milemission; Sep 6, 2014 at 11:23 pm
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 1:20 am
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Originally Posted by milemission
Today add money with CC online have this new warning:"Cash advance fees for credit card loads may apply; please check with your credit card issuer for details." Anyone saw that? Were it there before?

Could be new as I never saw this on any of my previous loads. Out of curiosity, I called Citicards and asked if loading onto Serve wil be treated as CA. The rep said no way of telling on their end until I tried it and it either shows as a CA or not on my statement. Funny guy.
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 4:36 am
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Originally Posted by yugi
I'm trying to add a new credit card to my Serve account, and I'm getting the following error, when adding a card:

You have the following errors. We're sorry, something went wrong! Please try again.

What could it be? I've never seen that one before. The card is a Priceline 2x from Barclays.
Happened to me recently, and it was after I had uploaded the (a) verification for identity, and (b) credit card bill and Amex removed the initial hold.

Then after couple of CC loads started to get the exact message above. It turned out be an alert from the CC side, and a three way call with AMEX and CC fraud alert resolved that issue. It has been quite a case of growing pains and phone calls go get it all set up.
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Old Sep 7, 2014, 5:30 am
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Originally Posted by milemission
Today add money with CC online have this new warning:"Cash advance fees for credit card loads may apply; please check with your credit card issuer for details." Anyone saw that? Were it there before?
It's new. But doesn't matter as long as you have your CA set to $0.
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