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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 1:12 pm
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will serve works the same way as BB for loading GC at walmart kiosk or with an agent?
Thanks
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 4:38 pm
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Looks like the ISIS rebranding decision is complete and they are changing their name to softcard.

http://gosoftcard.com/
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Blueskyheaven
will serve works the same way as BB for loading GC at walmart kiosk or with an agent?
Thanks
Yes, press the Bluebird button and load your Serve card and it should transfer funds from your VGCs.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 4:51 pm
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Trying to add a payee and I keep getting this error:

You have the following errors.
Phone number is not a number
No matter what I put in that field, it doesn't accept it. Any ideas? Did a search in the thread and found nothing.

EDIT: Putting in the full 9 digit zip code got me past this error. Doesn't make sense but oh well.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by tys90
Trying to add a payee and I keep getting this error:



No matter what I put in that field, it doesn't accept it. Any ideas? Did a search in the thread and found nothing.

EDIT: Putting in the full 9 digit zip code got me past this error. Doesn't make sense but oh well.
don't add 1
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by tys90
Trying to add a payee and I keep getting this error:



No matter what I put in that field, it doesn't accept it. Any ideas? Did a search in the thread and found nothing.

EDIT: Putting in the full 9 digit zip code got me past this error. Doesn't make sense but oh well.
I have the same problem adding a payee each time. What I do is put in phone number first and then input 9 digit zipcode, which is the one that gets rejected and soon as I remove the last 4 digits, the rest will go through. It can be so frustrating because it doesn't want to accept any phone number even if it's not a toll free number.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 6:27 pm
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When I got the "phone number is not a number" message it was eventually solved by restricting the payee to 29 characters. In conjunction with other info, above, all we can say for sure is that this is a non-specific message that may indicate any number of other sins in other entry points.
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 6:27 pm
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I went into a Verizon store today and asked for the iPhone 4s isis (softcase). I was told they got pulled and are also not available online. They could not order me one.

Anyone know if it's related to the rebranding, the new iPhone release on Sep 9th, or something else?

I wanted to clear out my BB early this month and convert back to Serve.

thanks

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Old Sep 4, 2014, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by azcoyote
I went into a Verizon store today and asked for the iPhone 4s isis (softcase). I was told they got pulled and are also not available online. They could not order me one.

Anyone know if it's related to the rebranding, the new iPhone release on Sep 9th, or something else?

I wanted to clear out my BB early this month and convert back to Serve.

thanks
My case stopped working with my Iphone, and I got told the same thing at a local store. Trying to get a replacement through Incipio.
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 8:55 am
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when did they change the policy of not being able to ach out ? I was able to ach out to make payment last month.....untill i reread the wiki..
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 9:15 am
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Loading Serve at Family Dollar

I tried this today and successfully loaded a $200 VGC. I understand from the wiki and elsewhere that the limit is $500 per store (not account or person). I've also heard that loading more than one card can cause the funds to freeze and not load on the serve (eventually they go back to the gc).

My noobie question is whether anyone has successfully loaded 2 $200 vcg onto serve at a Family Dollar store (assuming you were the first one there that day). Not eager to try it out myself and risk having funds frozen.
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by Furyleader
when did they change the policy of not being able to ach out ? I was able to ach out to make payment last month.....untill i reread the wiki..
The wiki is misleading. You cannot use the direct deposit information to do an ACH pull from a different bank (which is what I assume they refer to) but you can still do the withdraw to bank acct or pay a bill from the Serve website. Not the same thing.
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 10:02 am
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Disturbing data point from this morning. Went to my usual FD here in NYC and the clerk told me they were no longer allowing GCs to be loaded to serve, only cash. She told me it was because "American Express told them not to because people was pullin' scams." Last load at this location was about a week ago. Is this becoming like buying GCs at CVS, where each individual cashier seems to set their own policy? Has anyone else encountered this difficulty?
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by johnkphotography
Disturbing data point from this morning. Went to my usual FD here in NYC and the clerk told me they were no longer allowing GCs to be loaded to serve, only cash. She told me it was because "American Express told them not to because people was pullin' scams." Last load at this location was about a week ago. Is this becoming like buying GCs at CVS, where each individual cashier seems to set their own policy? Has anyone else encountered this difficulty?
I reported something like this about a FD 3-4 weeks ago. However my other FDs continue to accept debit cards and gift cards with PIN.
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 11:20 am
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My FD location has changed to require manager override for any non-cash loads. I've been told by a cashier that it's cash only once, but since I was aware of the new policy, I politely asked if she could just check with the manager.

That said, you should still always avoid showing them that you're using a gift card.
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