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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 5:15 am
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AU's with Different card #

Originally Posted by Pecan Pie
which credits cards have AUs with different card numbers? I know amex AUs have different card number but using amex to load serve doesn't earn points... from what I read in this thread, both citi and fia AUs have same number..so that leaves chase?
AMEX
PayPal Business [Prepaid Debit] MasterCard
Barclay [Upromise]


AFAIK [based on what I have] with probably some exceptions, the following card issuers have AU # same as primary:
Bank of America
Chase
Citibank
FIA
GM card, Target Red card
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 5:53 am
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Originally Posted by Bryant Leeds
AMEX
PayPal Business [Prepaid Debit] MasterCard
Barclay [Upromise]


AFAIK [based on what I have] with probably some exceptions, the following card issuers have AU # same as primary:
Bank of America
Chase
Citibank
FIA
GM card, Target Red card
Wells Fargo same AU#
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by Bryant Leeds
AMEX
PayPal Business [Prepaid Debit] MasterCard
Barclay [Upromise]


AFAIK [based on what I have] with probably some exceptions, the following card issuers have AU # same as primary:
Bank of America
Chase
Citibank
FIA
GM card, Target Red card

thanks. I didn't know you can add AUs to paypal biz debit card..
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 8:15 am
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Chase uses the same # for AUs for personal cards, but if you add an AU to a business card they're issued a different number.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by dboston1
Chase uses the same # for AUs for personal cards, but if you add an AU to a business card they're issued a different number.
super! thank you!
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 9:04 am
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I closed my BB yesterday evening. This morning I enrolled in Serve w/ ISIS via app. I completed the email verification and was given a $25 credit in my Serve account and my Serve card should be here in a few days I suspect (everything seems like it has gone as it should).

However, when I go to add a credit card funding source it keeps telling me that there was an error and to try again later (undefined error). I realize that the name on the credit card has to match the name on the Serve account.

My Serve account does not contain my middle initial but my credit card does...could this be the issue? There is no middle initial box on the Serve application hence why I didn't add it. I also tried adding it into the box for my first name with the same results.

Or do I have to wait for/activate my physical Serve card prior to adding a credit card funding source?

Or do I have to add a bank account funding source prior to adding a credit card funding source?

Other than those 3 possible explanations, I can't come up with any other reason why I shouldn't be able to add my Arrival card. If this has been discussed you're free to say so and I will scour through all 300+ pages of this thread (I only looked at the Wiki and the last 100ish posts).

FT FTW!
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 9:16 am
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I would be immensely happy if anyone would like to share their thoughts via PM or otherwise on the following subject.

Has anyone figured out a way to MS/maximize the $1 back on ISIS purchases promotion? The only local businesses that accept ISIS payments are Walgreens, Office Depot, Champs sporting goods, Foot Locker, ToysRUS, McDonalds and a ....-ton of Coca-cola/vending machines. Also, Verizon stores.

I've thought about/will try buying $1 store gift cards but I'm not sure how compliant these stores will be or if they even allow such small denomination gift cards. ToysRUs sells Amazon GCs, but I believe the smallest denomination is $20.

I've also thought about going to Verizon and paying my bill $1 at a time (x50/month). For some reason I don't think they will like this though

The other, less kosher idea I had was to buy a bunch of $1 items at OD/Walgreens (shouldn't be hard to find some crap there) and then return it at a later date. If I could get store credit that would be fine. This is definitely bumping up against/crossing my ethical line though.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by MilesGator
I would be immensely happy if anyone would like to share their thoughts via PM or otherwise on the following subject.

Has anyone figured out a way to MS/maximize the $1 back on ISIS purchases promotion? The only local businesses that accept ISIS payments are Walgreens, Office Depot, Champs sporting goods, Foot Locker, ToysRUS, McDonalds and a ....-ton of Coca-cola/vending machines. Also, Verizon stores.

I've thought about/will try buying $1 store gift cards but I'm not sure how compliant these stores will be or if they even allow such small denomination gift cards. ToysRUs sells Amazon GCs, but I believe the smallest denomination is $20.

I've also thought about going to Verizon and paying my bill $1 at a time (x50/month). For some reason I don't think they will like this though

The other, less kosher idea I had was to buy a bunch of $1 items at OD/Walgreens (shouldn't be hard to find some crap there) and then return it at a later date. If I could get store credit that would be fine. This is definitely bumping up against/crossing my ethical line though.
McD has $1 any size sodas. Free buckets of soda every day until 12/31/14!

YAY MURICA
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by roki
McD has $1 any size sodas. Free buckets of soda every day until 12/31/14!

YAY MURICA
Sweet, and with Obamacare I don't even have to worry about my eventual diabetus!
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 9:41 am
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Whenever I tried using this Isis NFC thing at cvs or RA, it won't work. I thought I don't need to be using mobile or wifi data to enable it at pos. correct? Just enable NFC and tap it against the pos.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 9:44 am
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I just saw that where my parents live, BP is an ISIS merchant. Maybe I'll try filling up my tank $1 at a time next time I'm down there.

Anyone know if BP has the NFC payment system at the pump or inside?
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 9:45 am
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Another question, I have waited almost 24 hours but there is no email from serve about why my credit card funding is not going thru. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread, that they will send a Link to upload scan of credit card and photo Id to the secure site after a failed attempt. Now I am tempted to call but need some data points, are they gonna verify it issuing bank while I am on phone or just send me the link to upload reqd. docs. I am calling in behalf of one of my family members who is AU on my card with different numbers.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by MilesGator
I would be immensely happy if anyone would like to share their thoughts via PM or otherwise on the following subject.

Has anyone figured out a way to MS/maximize the $1 back on ISIS purchases promotion? The only local businesses that accept ISIS payments are Walgreens, Office Depot, Champs sporting goods, Foot Locker, ToysRUS, McDonalds and a ....-ton of Coca-cola/vending machines. Also, Verizon stores..
Let's say you care about your health and don't want to put crap in your body. I would get McD for $1 coffee or a side salad, drugstore for $1 off a food item like a salad. There's almost no such thing as a $1-$2 food item that's healthy. If you are going to buy from drugstores, join their frequent shopper program ASAP since that's needed to get some of the discounts. Gas stations are no good because the stuff is way overpriced and it's a PITA to get $2 in gas. $1 items at gas stations are going to be really tiny, unhealthy, expensive, and not worthwhile like noodles. Finally, I would make note of nearby eligible vending machines just in case you need a free to 50 cent cold drink this summer.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by nadir576
Another question, I have waited almost 24 hours but there is no email from serve about why my credit card funding is not going thru. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread, that they will send a Link to upload scan of credit card and photo Id to the secure site after a failed attempt. Now I am tempted to call but need some data points, are they gonna verify it issuing bank while I am on phone or just send me the link to upload reqd. docs. I am calling in behalf of one of my family members who is AU on my card with different numbers.
When I linked my CC (I am the primary user) the first time, I had to call to verify my CC info. The CSR was very polite and simply asked me to upload copy of my DL and CC (front only) using the link she emailed me. Once I uploaded the docs, I called back and the CSR checked the docs and activated my CC. They did not ask me detail questions. They just wanted to match the CC, DL info with the serve account.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 11:11 am
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For all you ISIS experts out there....just would like to see if this would work?

I have a droid laying around that i believe would be compatable with isis (will verify) but it is not active on any line right now.

On verizon website you can easily switch what phone is attached to numbers via their website in about 5minutes by simply changing the MEID.

Could I switch my number from my iphone to this compatible droid....sign up for serve with isis, and then switch the number right back over to my iphone?

If i needed to activate something a few days later once the actual card came i could just just switch the droid phone back to my number again for an afternoon.

Just looking to get the limit increase.
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