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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 5:15 pm
  #4741  
 
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Originally Posted by Quarantine
Does anyone know if a Straight Talk SIM card with AT&T support ISIS? This was asked a few weeks ago but there wasn't any concrete answer.
I did a few weeks ago....although until 6 months ago my number used to be with AT&T as a regular postpaid account...so maybe that helped.

On a related note, has anyone had success signing up for ISIS using an AT&T Go Phone SIM/account? I get all the way to where it send the verifying text message, I click on the text, it says it is processing and then it errors out and says "Error 7007" blah blah blah...call customer service/tech support for help.

I read somewhere that ISIS doesn't work with Prepaid wireless accounts but Straight Talk is definitely prepaid and it worked for me so wondering if anyone has any tips on getting a Go Phone to work? I'm using an iPhone 4 with an iPhone 4 AT&T ISIS case. TIA.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by AveApostle
Did you miss every one of a half-dozen threads about everyone having trouble with certain GCs at WM?
That is so helpful. Thank you for your contribution. I'm sorry you don't have anything better to do on a Saturday afternoon.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 7:58 pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisFlyer66
I've had some failures with US Bank gift cards, even though most work. I think you'll just have to use that particular card somewhere else. If you can get metabank visa cards, those still seem to always work.
Thanks. I appreciate your help. Reminds me that FT used to be a place where we helped one another.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 8:56 pm
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How do I fill out the back up funding source.. Do I input $500?

This is so damn confusing had to call Isis 4 times and verizon twice spent almost 5 hours of my saturday
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by metoo
How do I fill out the back up funding source..

This is so damn confusing
When you add a card/account it asks you.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by f0xx
When you add a card/account it asks you.
Which should I check off?
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 9:51 pm
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Originally Posted by metoo
Which should I check off?
Whichever option you'd prefer...?
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 10:11 pm
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Originally Posted by payeco
Whichever option you'd prefer...?

Am I supposed to input $500 in the box. I am using the US Bank Club Carlson card so it falls under debit and other credit card from the isis wallet after I click on "add funds" . This then takes me to a webpage for serve. So does this mean I can only load $200 per day for total of 1k per month? And if I use the recommended AMEX. Chase and Well fargo, I can load up to $500 per day for total of $1500 per month.

What is so damn confusing it that there is Isis app and there is the webpage Serve which I was routed to and a Serve card will be mailed to me as it asked for my SS#, address , password email address (same procedure as BB) Does this mean I am not registered to Isis or am I registered to both the AMEX serve card and Serve Isis?

If I had known it would be this frustrating and difficult, I wouldn't have started this process
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by metoo
Am I supposed to input $500 in the box. I am using the US Bank Club Carlson card so it falls under debit and other credit card from the isis wallet after I click on "add funds" . This then takes me to a webpage for serve. So does this mean I can only load $200 per day for total of 1k per month? And if I use the recommended AMEX. Chase and Well fargo, I can load up to $500 per day for total of $1500 per month.

What is so damn confusing it that there is Isis app and there is the webpage Serve which I was routed to and a Serve card will be mailed to me as it asked for my SS#, address , password email address (same procedure as BB) Does this mean I am not registered to Isis or am I registered to both the AMEX serve card and Serve Isis?

If I had known it would be this frustrating and difficult, I wouldn't have started this process
I don't understand how this can be so confusing to people.

Step 1. Get Isis case/Isis SIM
Step 2. Download Isis app.
Step 3. Create Isis account.
Step 4. Follow prompts that take you to Serve site to sign up for a Serve card. Sign up and let it redirect you back to the Isis app to load the Serve card to your wallet.
Step 5. (optional) Delete the Isis app as it is no longer needed from this point on for anything to do with loading your Serve card.
Step 6. Link your CC/debit to your Serve account from the Serve website/mobile app to load funds with a CC/debit.

Why are you adding it to your Isis wallet? I already mentioned earlier today in this thread that you add the CC directly in your Serve account. Not the Isis wallet. Once you've used Isis to create your Isis Serve card you might as well delete the Isis app because it is no longer needed for anything to do with your Serve. Debit and CC loads to your Serve card are done directly in your Serve account on the Serve website/app.

This really is not that hard people.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 10:41 pm
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Thank you Payeco. I am almost 90 % there.

On Serve mobile, when I click on "debit and other credit card" rather than Chase, Well Fargo, Amex, I go to the page for credit card info, then Backup funding source.

1. Authorize this card to be used as an unlimited back up funding source for POS transaction
2. Authorize this card to be used as a back up funding source for point of sale up to ?????( what to add in box)
3. I do not wish this card to be used as backup funding source. I understand that any POS transactions that exceed my available serve balance will be declined.

When I choose number 3 it doesn't work. Which is the best one to choose? Afterward, how do I add $500 fund from my Club Carlson card to serve account? And do I need to have my physical serve card mailed to me? Can I do bill pay back to Club Carlson or best to withdraw from ATM or money order?

Going onto 7 hours of frustration for a measly 1000 to 1500 MS per month!!!!
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 10:50 pm
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Originally Posted by metoo
Thank you Payeco. I am almost 90 % there.

On Serve mobile, when I click on "debit and other credit card" rather than Chase, Well Fargo, Amex, I go to the page for credit card info, then Backup funding source.

1. Authorize this card to be used as an unlimited back up funding source for POS transaction
2. Authorize this card to be used as a back up funding source for point of sale up to ?????( what to add in box)
3. I do not wish this card to be used as backup funding source. I understand that any POS transactions that exceed my available serve balance will be declined.

When I choose number 3 it doesn't work. Which is the best one to choose? Afterward, how do I add $500 fund from my Club Carlson card to serve account? And do I need to have my physical serve card mailed to me? Can I do bill pay back to Club Carlson or best to withdraw from ATM or money order?

Going onto 7 hours of frustration for a measly 1000 to 1500 MS per month!!!!
You always choose option 3 and please don't do this on mobile. Just wait until you get home and add the CC/DC via the website. Its so much easier.
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 10:57 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
You always choose option 3 and please don't do this on mobile. Just wait until you get home and add the CC/DC via the website. Its so much easier.
Yes much easier on the desk computer. I rarely text so always punching in wrong letter/number on smartphone.

On serve website without using the isis mobile wallet, it states only $200 per day for max of 1k. I would like to add $500 . Don't i need to open isis ap and do this?
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Old Jun 28, 2014, 11:57 pm
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Originally Posted by metoo
Originally Posted by ericdabbs
You always choose option 3 and please don't do this on mobile. Just wait until you get home and add the CC/DC via the website. Its so much easier.
Yes much easier on the desk computer. I rarely text so always punching in wrong letter/number on smartphone.

On serve website without using the isis mobile wallet, it states only $200 per day for max of 1k. I would like to add $500 . Don't i need to open isis ap and do this?
I am not sure since I dont have isis. Someone else can chime in
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 12:26 am
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Originally Posted by metoo
Yes much easier on the desk computer. I rarely text so always punching in wrong letter/number on smartphone.

On serve website without using the isis mobile wallet, it states only $200 per day for max of 1k. I would like to add $500 . Don't i need to open isis ap and do this?
No. Just do $500.
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Old Jun 29, 2014, 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by payeco
Come on dude, how many times do I have to say it? I said the same thing in the PM you sent me too. You're beginning to sound like a god damn newb.

Once you create the Isis Serve you don't do anything in the Isis app. Delete the fukking Isis app from your phone. You don't need it anymore. Everything from that point on is done either on the Amex Serve mobile app or from the Amex Serve website.

If you would read the thread/wiki you would know that even though it still says the limit is $200/$1000 it is really $500/$1500. Is this clear enough or do you need some circles and arrows for every god damn step of the process?
OH boy....good one!! I hope to God that the OP finally gets it.

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