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Old Oct 25, 2013, 11:21 am
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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by evthu
I had a quick question I have not been able to find the answer to.

I know AMEX cards don't get points when using Serve. However, does the spend count towards minimum spend?

Thank you!
Yes
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
Yes
Great. Thank you for the quick reply. Can you possibly link me to a source sating you get credit towards your min spend when using an AMEX on Serve?
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 12:36 pm
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I'm new to this, with just a clarification question.

If I am able to find a CVS that will let me purchase OV (OneVanilla) cards with my AMEX credit card, up to the daily limit..whatever. I can then take those to Wal-Mart and have them load the OV cards to my Serve account?

Then use the Serve account to pay for services via bill pay that wouldn't normally accept CCs...

Looking at the Serve website limits, I'm assuming that these OV cards are treated as "Cash", thus everyone's ability to load $5,000/month, correct? ($1,000/day)

TIA
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by evthu
Great. Thank you for the quick reply. Can you possibly link me to a source sating you get credit towards your min spend when using an AMEX on Serve?
Are you kidding???
No! Trust us or don't. We don't care.
I mean, really! Do your own research.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:12 pm
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Originally Posted by jtrue28
I'm new to this, with just a clarification question.

If I am able to find a CVS that will let me purchase OV (OneVanilla) cards with my AMEX credit card, up to the daily limit..whatever. I can then take those to Wal-Mart and have them load the OV cards to my Serve account?

Then use the Serve account to pay for services via bill pay that wouldn't normally accept CCs...

Looking at the Serve website limits, I'm assuming that these OV cards are treated as "Cash", thus everyone's ability to load $5,000/month, correct? ($1,000/day)

TIA
You are correct on all accounts. Alternatively, you can also transfer from Serve right into a bank account or get cash back from the ATM if you don't have that many bills to pay.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by evthu
Great. Thank you for the quick reply. Can you possibly link me to a source sating you get credit towards your min spend when using an AMEX on Serve?
If it doesn't go towards min spend there where does it go? I don't have a source for this. The terms and conditions say that you have to "spend" $6.5K. It doesn't state limitations on how you spend it.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by bmrisko
You are correct on all accounts. Alternatively, you can also transfer from Serve right into a bank account or get cash back from the ATM if you don't have that many bills to pay.
There is no way you CAN'T have enough bills to pay since you are using a credit card to buy the GCs to fund it. You will always have that credit card bill to pay off.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
If it doesn't go towards min spend there where does it go? I don't have a source for this. The terms and conditions say that you have to "spend" $6.5K. It doesn't state limitations on how you spend it.
Eligible purchases do NOT include fees or interest charges, balance transfers, cash advances, purchases of travelers checks, purchases or reloading of prepaid cards, or purchases of other cash equivalents.

Not sure if it applies but it does say it.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:45 pm
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And stuff like that is why you start out slow and test the waters...
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
There is no way you CAN'T have enough bills to pay since you are using a credit card to buy the GCs to fund it. You will always have that credit card bill to pay off.
Is there any risk to getting banned from Serve for paying only credit cards with it? Maybe pay a different card than the one you loaded with?
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 2:06 pm
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Originally Posted by kpd905
Is there any risk to getting banned from Serve for paying only credit cards with it? Maybe pay a different card than the one you loaded with?
Please read the thread. This has already been asked and answered.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 2:23 pm
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The $1,000/month limitation ruins using a CC online to fund Serve, IMO.

$60,000 > $12,000

Although 0 trips to Wal-Mart(s) > 60 trips /sickface
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
There is no way you CAN'T have enough bills to pay since you are using a credit card to buy the GCs to fund it. You will always have that credit card bill to pay off.
Very true, but if you want to mix it up and not always do a continuous loop to pay that particular CC off, you can do a direct withdraw to your bank account.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Tuppins
Please read the thread. This has already been asked and answered.
At the defense of the person who asked, 288 pages is a long thread that has mostly focused on ISIS as of lately. I do not have a definitive answer, but I generally try to mix up billpaying CCs and withdrawing to my bank account. No idea what Serve thinks of this and I haven't found it discussed in the thread yet, but I assume it is hidden somewhere in the almost 300 pages.
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Old Jun 5, 2014, 3:15 pm
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Originally Posted by bmrisko
At the defense of the person who asked, 288 pages is a long thread that has mostly focused on ISIS as of lately.
That's not a defense since he could use some keywords such as paying credit cards in the Search this Thread function - below and to the right of the wiki. He could also type in something like: paying credit card with serve site:.flyertalk.com

Being able to search for information is a valuable skill, especially for MS.
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