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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 4:58 pm
  #3436  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Originally Posted by 22calbr
So I need to call amex cs and tell them i need to set pin so i can load serve at walmart with the debit function. Thanks!
...yeah you go do that.
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
...yeah you go do that.
You don't it?
Lucrative MS.
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by f0xx
You don't it?
Lucrative MS.
wait wat??? You drunk bro?
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 5:17 pm
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closed out one of our bluebirds today and bought the temp serve card. registration got declined and cs told me that we have to wait 24-48 hours to try and sign up online because it still sees us as having a bluebird in the system.
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 5:30 pm
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Went to am to load my serve with a reloadable debit card. First tried to put $900ish on it but was rejected. Then did 499 and it went through. Not sure if wm or my reloadable has the amount restricted. I know it's not serve since it has $1k/ day max. Or is it like cvs, $500/load too?
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by tuscanyx
Went to am to load my serve with a reloadable debit card. First tried to put $900ish on it but was rejected. Then did 499 and it went through. Not sure if wm or my reloadable has the amount restricted. I know it's not serve since it has $1k/ day max. Or is it like cvs, $500/load too?
where did you try to load the $900 at? Kiosk? MC? checkout register? Also which reloadable debit card were you using/
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 6:01 pm
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DATA POINT: So I closed my BB a couple days ago and have been trying to get a Serve but kept getting denied. Accidently, I misclicked the last digit on my SSN and it went to pending. So they needed to verify my identity. I sent them the paperwork and talked to them on the phone how I misclicked. They understood and changed my SSN to the correct one on my account. Now I have my Serve back
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by RamboAroundTheWorld
closed out one of our bluebirds today and bought the temp serve card. registration got declined and cs told me that we have to wait 24-48 hours to try and sign up online because it still sees us as having a bluebird in the system.
I got the exact same response from the csr when I called in. They aren't correct though. I tried after 48 hours and my registration still got declined. You'll have to try something else to get it pushed through
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Old Apr 25, 2014, 8:15 pm
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I am having the same issue. Is there anybody who had successfully made transition from BB to serve in the last a couple weeks? The info in the wiki seems outdated.

Originally Posted by bar19900
I got the exact same response from the csr when I
called in. They aren't correct though. I tried after 48 hours and my registration still got declined. You'll have to try something else to get it pushed through
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Old Apr 26, 2014, 3:35 am
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Tried to search this thread with the terms auto and load and came up empty. Does anyone have any experience with the auto load feature on Serve? I entered $1500 to be auto loaded at the start of each month. I would guess that it will load $500 over three days. Just wondering if anyone has already used this and know how it works. Thanks.

Settings>Add Money Settings>Schedule Add

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Old Apr 26, 2014, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by andres17
I went to WallyWorld to load my Serve using a "debit card" today, and join the fun. The cashier took my Serve card, swiped it into the machine, and got a message asking to input a "company name", or something like that. He was clueless, as me, and asked for the manager. The manager didn't know what to do either, so I left without being able to load anything to my card.

Is this a normal question you guys get? Or is my local Walmart (Puerto Rico) still not updated with the right POS software? I know for a fact that you can't sign in for Serve as a PR resident. I got mine when I was back in the States, and it worked fine at my CVS PR.
Anyone know why I can't load at my PR Walmart? It asks the cashier to "Enter company ID".

I read the AMEX press release:

http://about.americanexpress.com/new...d-network.aspx

It says that they added 4,100 Walmart stores nationwide. Now, I don't know if the key word nationwide includes PR. But it certainly can't mean all the Walmart stores in the US, as there are 4,144 Walmart stores in the continental USA (ref: http://corporate.walmart.com/our-sto.../united-states).

So I guess we are not part of the rollout, at least, not the initial rollout

I will drive to the other Walmart and see if I get better luck there. It might be time to move back to the US.
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Old Apr 26, 2014, 4:16 am
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Originally Posted by tuscanyx
Went to am to load my serve with a reloadable debit card. First tried to put $900ish on it but was rejected. Then did 499 and it went through. Not sure if wm or my reloadable has the amount restricted. I know it's not serve since it has $1k/ day max. Or is it like cvs, $500/load too?
Load limit is $1000/day but $500/Load.

Just do 2 loads batck to back. Sometimes Kate will get upset at $500+$500 so I always do $499.85 on the second load and buy an Amazon GC for 15 cents to finish the card when I get home.
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Old Apr 26, 2014, 8:36 am
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Anyone know if removing a Serve card from Isis means the regular Serve limits/monthly fees apply?

I got my Serve card via Isis when I had Verizon...but I recently switched to T-Mobile, which doesn't have a Cashwrap case for the iPhone, so (grr) the Isis automatically canceled my Serve-Isis connection. I'm wondering if this means Serve is going to start getting a lot less useful for me.
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Old Apr 26, 2014, 12:10 pm
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Originally Posted by maulah
What about UFB Direct DC for AA miles?
UFB has been working great for me for MOs and online Serve orders.
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Old Apr 26, 2014, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
No it doesn't have to be a business CC. No matter what, Amex wants to confirm any CC or DC added to your account. Think about it, if you add a checking account on Serve, they can instantly verify your checking account by asking you to login with your bank credentials. With a CC and DC, they have no way to verify it until you call them. Just call Serve and tell them to verify your CC. Also if you have a DC loaded you mind as well ask them to verify that as well if you have them on the phone.
Originally Posted by wetz
I recently started Serve within the last week. I am using to meet the minimum spend on my Chase IHG Rewards card. After loading $200 the first day, I had been receiving an error message that would not allow me to load an additional $200 the next.

I had to call the provided 800 number for customer SERVE-ice. It took 15 minutes but they basically needed to confirm the Chase card was actually mine. So they asked me a few questions and then called Chase as well.

It is now working again.

I asked the CS rep if this would happen with every new card I linked to my Serve account and she said she didn't think so. I must have just gotten flagged for security purposes but hopefully this isn't a stain on my reputation with AMEX.
Ok, thanks for the info. I'm running the account for my spouse, I hate having him call. But I'm going to guess just switching cards would be even worse.
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