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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
#1831
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: SYD
Posts: 24
It would be beyond both my and my computer's abilities but with the right capabilities it would theoretically be pretty simple to reverse model the track of the debris.
http://www.esr.org/oscar_index.html]OSCAR Data has an archive of current data and the fields of pelagic larval dispersal and possibly the tracing of source areas of ocean pollutants would be well developed. So hopefully this could get something going!
http://www.esr.org/oscar_index.html]OSCAR Data has an archive of current data and the fields of pelagic larval dispersal and possibly the tracing of source areas of ocean pollutants would be well developed. So hopefully this could get something going!
#1832
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta PlM, 1M
Posts: 6,363
But then again, those who believe Apollo 11 was a fake will believe anything :-)
#1833
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: SYD
Posts: 24
Well that looks promising.
I go to the same uni that the guy who made this program teaches at, would it be worth seeing him and asking how more specific reverse modelling would work?
Last edited by Nrg800; Jul 29, 2015 at 4:27 pm
#1834
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 4
I think this proves everything. There has been a search east of Australia because of a Satellite/GPS signal (eventhough it was far away from the planned route). Furthermore there has been a research from an University here they noticed with their sonar mashines some big noices in this area.
So if the MH went in this area down than it's logical that it appeared on the african side due to the current.
Everythings fits so perfect and makes sense. I'm positive that this is an MH wing and I hope that this might lead to some further investigations (maybe there might be some insights from this wing itself - ie if it was an explosion/fire/landing) and eventually finding the blackbox.
Here is a picture of the searched area and the current flow.
http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert...9,c=0.bild.gif
So if the MH went in this area down than it's logical that it appeared on the african side due to the current.
Everythings fits so perfect and makes sense. I'm positive that this is an MH wing and I hope that this might lead to some further investigations (maybe there might be some insights from this wing itself - ie if it was an explosion/fire/landing) and eventually finding the blackbox.
Here is a picture of the searched area and the current flow.
http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert...9,c=0.bild.gif
#1835
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 339
The only question I have now is just when this debris washed ashore...because it looked "pretty far inland" (a few meters) which means it might have been there awhile until they cleaned up the shore this morning
#1836
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: ATL
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Will a part such as that really hold the air for year or so?
I realize it would not have to trap much air to maintain buyancy, but the trapped air will be under positive pressure forcing it out. So any non airtight seal that was above water (at any time) would leek.
I realize it would not have to trap much air to maintain buyancy, but the trapped air will be under positive pressure forcing it out. So any non airtight seal that was above water (at any time) would leek.
#1838
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,553
They've now found what they are calling a 'badly-damaged' suitcase in the same area.
Photos & article: http://www.linfo.re/la-reunion/socie...-avion#photo-3
Photos & article: http://www.linfo.re/la-reunion/socie...-avion#photo-3
#1839
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 132
Turns out the early reporting about a BB670 appears it might be wrong. Here is a story which includes a picture of the inside of the debris and it clearly is 657 BB.
#1840
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Stockholm
Programs: Various
Posts: 3,369
Yes, and since there has been no communication that it's clearly not from MH370 we can safely conclude that this flaperon is indeed from MH370(or at the very least cannot be ruled out)
#1841
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Atherton, CA
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Owner, Green Bay Packers
Posts: 21,690
A similar drift map from a year ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLJO8L1UMAAHGK0.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er_DailyMailAU
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLJO8L1UMAAHGK0.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er_DailyMailAU
#1843
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Blue is very soon after the crash, red is 18-24 months after the crash.
#1844
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: SW London
Programs: BAEC Silver; Hilton Diamond;a miscellany of other hotel non-statuses
Posts: 3,607
A similar drift map from a year ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLJO8L1UMAAHGK0.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er_DailyMailAU
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLJO8L1UMAAHGK0.jpg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er_DailyMailAU
If I'm reading it correctly that map also suggests that some debris would have been found in the Australian Bight or Tasmania by now, and might soon reach NZ. Since none has would a different starting point reduce the probability of material reaching into the Bight and hence be more consistent with what has transpired? [EDIT: I see that the 'rubber duck' image above is more consistent with that idea - does it have a different starting site?]
As the drift area covers about 30% of the section of the Indian Ocean shown on the map (from visual approximation) it would suggest that lots of candidate crash sites would still exist and only slightly change the outcome .
Last edited by EsherFlyer; Jul 30, 2015 at 4:45 pm
#1845
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I suspect that very little debris will ever be found washed up anywhere, so the location of this piece really doesn't narrow down the crash site much.
The fact that nothing was found in south Australia or Tasmania really means nothing. The lack of evidence is not evidence.
The fact that nothing was found in south Australia or Tasmania really means nothing. The lack of evidence is not evidence.