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Old Jul 29, 2015, 3:57 pm
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It would be beyond both my and my computer's abilities but with the right capabilities it would theoretically be pretty simple to reverse model the track of the debris.
http://www.esr.org/oscar_index.html]OSCAR Data has an archive of current data and the fields of pelagic larval dispersal and possibly the tracing of source areas of ocean pollutants would be well developed. So hopefully this could get something going!
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by jk88usa
... And, while satellite data did suggest the Indian Ocean now everybody is going to question just how accurate it was on where it went down...
Regardless of how this plays out, the ocean currents would clearly have tended to carried debris (assuming it floats) from the presumed crash site towards the general area of Madascar. Could not have done so from the northern arc.

But then again, those who believe Apollo 11 was a fake will believe anything :-)
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 4:17 pm
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Well that looks promising.

I go to the same uni that the guy who made this program teaches at, would it be worth seeing him and asking how more specific reverse modelling would work?

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Old Jul 29, 2015, 4:22 pm
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I think this proves everything. There has been a search east of Australia because of a Satellite/GPS signal (eventhough it was far away from the planned route). Furthermore there has been a research from an University here they noticed with their sonar mashines some big noices in this area.

So if the MH went in this area down than it's logical that it appeared on the african side due to the current.

Everythings fits so perfect and makes sense. I'm positive that this is an MH wing and I hope that this might lead to some further investigations (maybe there might be some insights from this wing itself - ie if it was an explosion/fire/landing) and eventually finding the blackbox.

Here is a picture of the searched area and the current flow.

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert...9,c=0.bild.gif
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Nrg800
I go to the same uni that the guy who made this program teaches at, would it be worth seeing him and asking how more specific reverse modelling would work?
I'd say give it a shot just because that looks like a pretty darn cool/advanced program. I didn't realize it could be done.

The only question I have now is just when this debris washed ashore...because it looked "pretty far inland" (a few meters) which means it might have been there awhile until they cleaned up the shore this morning
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 4:42 pm
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Will a part such as that really hold the air for year or so?

I realize it would not have to trap much air to maintain buyancy, but the trapped air will be under positive pressure forcing it out. So any non airtight seal that was above water (at any time) would leek.
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Old Jul 29, 2015, 9:23 pm
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UU got their 777 based in RUN, AF flies 777 to RUN, I believe some people already know if this wreckage is from a 777 or not...
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 4:53 am
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They've now found what they are calling a 'badly-damaged' suitcase in the same area.

Photos & article: http://www.linfo.re/la-reunion/socie...-avion#photo-3
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 2:47 pm
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Turns out the early reporting about a BB670 appears it might be wrong. Here is a story which includes a picture of the inside of the debris and it clearly is 657 BB.
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by snufkin
UU got their 777 based in RUN, AF flies 777 to RUN, I believe some people already know if this wreckage is from a 777 or not...
Yes, and since there has been no communication that it's clearly not from MH370 we can safely conclude that this flaperon is indeed from MH370(or at the very least cannot be ruled out)
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 3:12 pm
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A similar drift map from a year ago.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLJO8L1UMAAHGK0.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er_DailyMailAU
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 3:47 pm
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So it obviously crashed to the west of the search zone if the drift map is accurate.
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 4:22 pm
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Cool

Originally Posted by heyeaglefn
So it obviously crashed to the west of the search zone if the drift map is accurate.
No, the drift map predicts that debris from the assumed crash zone off Australia's west coast might well arrive at Reunion by now.

Blue is very soon after the crash, red is 18-24 months after the crash.
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Old Jul 30, 2015, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage
The drift maps that originate at the presumed crash site seem to be consistent with debris now reaching Reunion, but I wonder what similar maps would look like for starting points at (say) 500 mile intervals along the arc defined by the last Inmarsat pings, and at other points.

If I'm reading it correctly that map also suggests that some debris would have been found in the Australian Bight or Tasmania by now, and might soon reach NZ. Since none has would a different starting point reduce the probability of material reaching into the Bight and hence be more consistent with what has transpired? [EDIT: I see that the 'rubber duck' image above is more consistent with that idea - does it have a different starting site?]

As the drift area covers about 30% of the section of the Indian Ocean shown on the map (from visual approximation) it would suggest that lots of candidate crash sites would still exist and only slightly change the outcome .

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Old Jul 30, 2015, 4:45 pm
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I suspect that very little debris will ever be found washed up anywhere, so the location of this piece really doesn't narrow down the crash site much.

The fact that nothing was found in south Australia or Tasmania really means nothing. The lack of evidence is not evidence.
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