Is this a legal itinerary? Cabotage?
May 28, 2019, 2:13 am
#16
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: CGK
Posts: 2,375
I've travelled to Medan from Denpasar then back to Jakarta with MH a couple of tmes. The attraction is not only the fare, but the four sets of tier points to my BA account AND the opportunity to break the journey in KL.
Garuda prices are bonkers: Medan Jakarta prices are bonkers on all Indonesian carriers. I guess they are responding to increased demand with higher prices rather than increasing capacity. So it's great that MH (and SQ?) can step in to take up some slack
The first time I had mild concern about a puzzled reception from KNO immigration. But he didn't bat an eyelid.
Garuda prices are bonkers: Medan Jakarta prices are bonkers on all Indonesian carriers. I guess they are responding to increased demand with higher prices rather than increasing capacity. So it's great that MH (and SQ?) can step in to take up some slack
The first time I had mild concern about a puzzled reception from KNO immigration. But he didn't bat an eyelid.
May 28, 2019, 4:17 am
#17
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 17,008
But be warned, it (or the low-fare version of "it") doesn't always show up.
And I think if you're heading for KNO, the midday flight from DPS arrives too late for an MH connection, so it's an enforced sleep-over: a bit of a drag if you don't want to see the bright lights of KL
I'm not sure in SIN fits into the pattern, but JHB certainly does. And Penang.
I did DPS KUL//KUL CGK a week or so back in business-class for just a little more than buying separate tickets on Air Asia.
And I think if you're heading for KNO, the midday flight from DPS arrives too late for an MH connection, so it's an enforced sleep-over: a bit of a drag if you don't want to see the bright lights of KL
I'm not sure in SIN fits into the pattern, but JHB certainly does. And Penang.
I did DPS KUL//KUL CGK a week or so back in business-class for just a little more than buying separate tickets on Air Asia.
May 30, 2019, 9:09 pm
#18
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: EVA Air , * G, QR Privilege Club S
Posts: 5,184
If they have 5th freedom then they can sell via their home country. It is on ward destination. In this case they can openly say from the departure point to the destination via the home country. If no 5th they still can do via the home but would probably do different flight numbers and may require a separate boarding card too.
It is perfectly legal.
It is perfectly legal.
Oct 11, 2019, 4:07 am
#20
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 361
Oct 11, 2019, 11:23 am
#21
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CGK/LAX
Programs: KF,JMB, OZ, SPG,AA,UA,AS
Posts: 1,163
It ticketed fine, i'm flying it next week so I will let you know. I'm local as well, and it's nice to have these options. I don't fly Lion so would end up connecting in CGK anyway on GA to get from SUB to KNO.
Last edited by gpeso8; Oct 19, 2019 at 11:47 am
Oct 19, 2019, 11:46 am
#22
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: BA exec, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 556
But be warned, it (or the low-fare version of "it") doesn't always show up.
And I think if you're heading for KNO, the midday flight from DPS arrives too late for an MH connection, so it's an enforced sleep-over: a bit of a drag if you don't want to see the bright lights of KL
I'm not sure in SIN fits into the pattern, but JHB certainly does. And Penang.
I did DPS KUL//KUL CGK a week or so back in business-class for just a little more than buying separate tickets on Air Asia.
And I think if you're heading for KNO, the midday flight from DPS arrives too late for an MH connection, so it's an enforced sleep-over: a bit of a drag if you don't want to see the bright lights of KL
I'm not sure in SIN fits into the pattern, but JHB certainly does. And Penang.
I did DPS KUL//KUL CGK a week or so back in business-class for just a little more than buying separate tickets on Air Asia.
Presently MH is pricing biz (d class) at £330 return which gets me 2 nights KUL and a fairly full day in Medan in between, a place I have always wanted to visit (make sense?)
Factor in the hotel in KUL and its a nice addition/diversion on the well trod AUH-CMB-CGK run.
Appreciate any thoughts/advice
T
Oct 19, 2019, 11:49 am
#23
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CGK/LAX
Programs: KF,JMB, OZ, SPG,AA,UA,AS
Posts: 1,163
No issues with checking in at SUB was issued tickets all of the way to KNO. This will be my new preferred way to get from SUB to KNO.
Oct 19, 2019, 4:17 pm
#24
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 17,008
Hi, glad I came across this. Im doing another AUH-CMB-CGK run in March. I have been looking at another way to move around within the CGK stopovers. I have just worked up a CGK-KUL-KNO ret on MH which nests nicely into my inbound and subsequent outbound UL flight at CGK (= 160 tp BAEC). I know about the practical issues of having printed board pass in transit CGK etc...
Presently MH is pricing biz (d class) at £330 return which gets me 2 nights KUL and a fairly full day in Medan in between, a place I have always wanted to visit (make sense?)
Factor in the hotel in KUL and its a nice addition/diversion on the well trod AUH-CMB-CGK run.
Appreciate any thoughts/advice
T
Presently MH is pricing biz (d class) at £330 return which gets me 2 nights KUL and a fairly full day in Medan in between, a place I have always wanted to visit (make sense?)
Factor in the hotel in KUL and its a nice addition/diversion on the well trod AUH-CMB-CGK run.
Appreciate any thoughts/advice
T
If you do go to Medan I can't see any point in doing as a day trip. The MH schedule wouldn't give you long and the airport train, though a brilliant service, is a bit of a faff.
Overnighting, it'd be sensible to stay close to Merdeka Walk (restaurants) on the square in front of the station (where the airport train arrives). The d'prima hotel is over the station, noisy and hard to recommend. A good, comfortable spot across the square from the station is the Grand Inna: nothing fancy about it, but it's a serious old-style place of some historical importance. The Aston is a tad smarter and almost next door. I've started staying at the Santika, nice, modern, with pool: but a couple of streets further back from the square.
Lake Toba is a principal reason for tourism visits to the region, and if it's the sort of thing that might interest you, it's well worth giving up a couple of days for.
Oct 20, 2019, 10:24 am
#25
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: BA exec, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 556
Medan's something of an acquired taste. Langkawi, Penang and Bali are more obviously interesting spots covered by the same sort of deal. but If you choose another destination on the MH ticket, AND want to see Medan it's a very cheap 50 minute hop on Air Asia from KL or Penang.
If you do go to Medan I can't see any point in doing as a day trip. The MH schedule wouldn't give you long and the airport train, though a brilliant service, is a bit of a faff.
Overnighting, it'd be sensible to stay close to Merdeka Walk (restaurants) on the square in front of the station (where the airport train arrives). The d'prima hotel is over the station, noisy and hard to recommend. A good, comfortable spot across the square from the station is the Grand Inna: nothing fancy about it, but it's a serious old-style place of some historical importance. The Aston is a tad smarter and almost next door. I've started staying at the Santika, nice, modern, with pool: but a couple of streets further back from the square.
Lake Toba is a principal reason for tourism visits to the region, and if it's the sort of thing that might interest you, it's well worth giving up a couple of days for.
If you do go to Medan I can't see any point in doing as a day trip. The MH schedule wouldn't give you long and the airport train, though a brilliant service, is a bit of a faff.
Overnighting, it'd be sensible to stay close to Merdeka Walk (restaurants) on the square in front of the station (where the airport train arrives). The d'prima hotel is over the station, noisy and hard to recommend. A good, comfortable spot across the square from the station is the Grand Inna: nothing fancy about it, but it's a serious old-style place of some historical importance. The Aston is a tad smarter and almost next door. I've started staying at the Santika, nice, modern, with pool: but a couple of streets further back from the square.
Lake Toba is a principal reason for tourism visits to the region, and if it's the sort of thing that might interest you, it's well worth giving up a couple of days for.
T