MH to axe First Class, rebrand and reposition as Business Suites
Dec 12, 2018, 8:46 pm
#31
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Technically MH is right. It remained, just that P is now a revenue bucket instead of an award bucket. There are P fares filed for SYD/NRT/ICN etc. Only MH has made changes to awarding miles to P class (IB has always awarded miles for P class). P now earns 175% on MH Enrich (along with C/D classes). F/A still earns 250%.
Dec 13, 2018, 2:23 am
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Future of F Check-in Counters @ KUL?
I wonder what will happen to the previous F Check-In at KUL? As an OWE I have always appreciated it with it's minimal lines and helpful staff..
Dec 13, 2018, 5:36 am
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Same thing for me as you TGFlyergirl !
Wonder about the points earnings for the "lucky" Business suites flyers...
Dec 13, 2018, 12:13 pm
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Dec 13, 2018, 10:01 pm
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Dec 13, 2018, 10:29 pm
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Is it confirmed or generally known that a carrier like MH benefits financially from keeping an F lounge open that is open to OWEs? I've always wondered whether the fact that I can show up early for a cheap flight to Singapore and enjoy a very nice champagne and Bordeaux fuelled lunch with a marginal cost of 25-50% of my flight value is due to MH raking it in from BAEC paying for my F lounge entry.
I highly doubt it though - MH charges a hefty amount for their FCL/BSCL access 
Dec 14, 2018, 1:46 am
#39
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so apart from hardware, does anyone know what else is different between Business and Business Suites ? is the F&B now the same across these 2 cabins ? and what is the Miles/Sector earn rate on Suites ?
Dec 14, 2018, 2:14 am
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They updated their chef on call menu here: https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/cn/...f-on-call.html
What I found both are the same. Actually if you book their ticket now, the sometimes the business suite ticket will be cheaper than business class stick lol.... I think just as most FT here mention, the purpose is for the justification by corporate such that only business class or lower can be booked.
What I found both are the same. Actually if you book their ticket now, the sometimes the business suite ticket will be cheaper than business class stick lol.... I think just as most FT here mention, the purpose is for the justification by corporate such that only business class or lower can be booked.
Dec 14, 2018, 7:14 am
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Is it confirmed or generally known that a carrier like MH benefits financially from keeping an F lounge open that is open to OWEs? I've always wondered whether the fact that I can show up early for a cheap flight to Singapore and enjoy a very nice champagne and Bordeaux fuelled lunch with a marginal cost of 25-50% of my flight value is due to MH raking it in from BAEC paying for my F lounge entry.
Last edited by headinclouds; Dec 14, 2018 at 7:26 am
Dec 14, 2018, 7:26 am
#42
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MH's approach is similar to AA's rebranding of USA domestic flights. Those AA flights were called 1st class. In 2016, AA renamed those flights as 1st/business. They called it 1st class, but the booking inventory was business. So, one earned business class points. MH Enrich can call its 1st class a new name and treat it as first class for its members. I suspect that OW partners will revise their earning rates so that A/F on MH will be business class else where.
Dec 14, 2018, 9:05 am
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The operating carrier pays if pax in biz/first
The FFP pays if pax is in economy
In the example above, MH would charge BA if the pax is travelling in Y.
Dec 14, 2018, 11:58 am
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Dec 14, 2018, 3:36 pm
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