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MH/QR long connection questions
I will possibly be connecting at KLIA from MH620 (SIN 16:35 --> KUL 17:45) to QR853 (KUL 02:50 --> DOH). Both fares are economy.
Will I be able to: (1) check baggage through all the way, despite the long layover in KUL? (2) access the MH lounge (as an MH Gold member) for all of the layover, or for only X hours prior to the QR flight? Thanks a lot! |
Yes, of course - to both your questions. |
Originally Posted by brbear
(Post 29964622)
I will possibly be connecting at KLIA from MH620 (SIN 16:35 --> KUL 17:45) to QR853 (KUL 02:50 --> DOH). Both fares are economy.
Will I be able to: (1) check baggage through all the way, despite the long layover in KUL? (2) access the MH lounge (as an MH Gold member) for all of the layover, or for only X hours prior to the QR flight? Thanks a lot! 2) Not certain, but I think you should be fine. Don’t remember seeing any limits on access prior to a flight, though common sense would be that they’ll likely check for same calendar day or something like ~12hrs before An overnight transit stop... |
Thanks a lot both for the reassurance!
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Yes to both, but MH is not the designated lounge for QR J class pax (and the MH lounges are busy at 9pm before all their evening departures; and dire at 2am, when the aircon is turned down, bar is closed and cleaning starts); you may need to find a QR transfer desk to get an invite to the Plaza Premium First lounge (not to be confused with the larger Plaza Premium lounge) - it's much smaller, but at least you can get an a la carte meal and alcohol from the bar
Although tbf, with such a long layover, you may as well pop into the city to get a nice dinner somewhere (or lounge hop - don't forget there's CX too in the early evening - not particularly luxurious, but very peaceful after the last KA departure) |
Originally Posted by brbear
(Post 29964622)
I will possibly be connecting at KLIA from MH620 (SIN 16:35 --> KUL 17:45) to QR853 (KUL 02:50 --> DOH). Both fares are economy.
Will I be able to: (1) check baggage through all the way, despite the long layover in KUL? (2) access the MH lounge (as an MH Gold member) for all of the layover, or for only X hours prior to the QR flight? Thanks a lot! He explained that as a 3rd party lounge to CX, that was the airline's policy. Fortunately (or unfortunately) I was able to access the Plaza Premium lounge. The next time I have an overnight'er at KUL (& not departing on an MH flight), I'll be booking a room either at the Sama2 Express or a hotel near the airport.
Originally Posted by kt74
(Post 29965192)
Yes to both, but MH is not the designated lounge for QR J class pax (and the MH lounges are busy at 9pm before all their evening departures; and dire at 2am, when the aircon is turned down, bar is closed and cleaning starts); you may need to find a QR transfer desk to get an invite to the Plaza Premium First lounge (not to be confused with the larger Plaza Premium lounge) - it's much smaller, but at least you can get an a la carte meal and alcohol from the bar
Although tbf, with such a long layover, you may as well pop into the city to get a nice dinner somewhere (or lounge hop - don't forget there's CX too in the early evening - not particularly luxurious, but very peaceful after the last KA departure) |
Originally Posted by kaffir76
(Post 29971121)
OP is not traveling on QR J.
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Originally Posted by kt74
(Post 29978895)
I am aware of this, but do you know what the designated lounge is for QR Y pax? I assume it's the same, but I don't know; do you?
For silver members granted lounge access, they should get access to the PP lounge and not the MH/OW lounges. OP is OWS, so can visit the MH lounges (which is superior to the PP lounge) |
Originally Posted by clubeurope
(Post 29979045)
I assume you are referring to QR Y pax with status. Given they are OWS (Gold) or OWE (Platinum), then they have access to the MH lounges...
For silver members granted lounge access, they should get access to the PP lounge and not the MH/OW lounges. OP is OWS, so can visit the MH lounges (which is superior to the PP lounge) Anyway, for the OP, go crazy and try all the lounges before midnight (MH, MH Regional, CX) if you're not going into the city, and definitely try and get an invitation to the PP FIRST lounge if you intend to use the lounges after midnight. This post suggests that you might get access in Y on QR. |
Originally Posted by kt74
(Post 29980552)
Anyway, for the OP, go crazy and try all the lounges before midnight (MH, MH Regional, CX) if you're not going into the city, and definitely try and get an invitation to the PP FIRST lounge if you intend to use the lounges after midnight. This post suggests that you might get access in Y on QR.
(Heading into the city is also a nice idea, but as I'm anyway in KL most weekends, I'll be happy on this one occasion to stay airside and skip KLIA's "award winning" immigration service. :-) ) |
I flew similar route last April - JHB-KUL connecting to QR853 KUL-DOH-CAI on separate ticket. Both sectors in J and I’m OWS. Here’s my experience: - My luggage was checked all the way from JHB to final destination (CAI) despite QR sectors on separate ticket - I arrived in KUL at about 8+pm, but the QR transfer counter was not manned. It’ll only open 2-3 hours before QR’s departure. - Thankfully JHB was able to print my QR boarding passes (I’ll strongly advise you to try to ask SIN agent to try to print it for you too, if possible, as I’m not sure if MH or PP will allow entry to their lounge if there’s no boarding pass or lounge invite for PP) - Alternatively, I also had my QR mobile boarding pass ready - The initial plan is to lounge hop a bit since I have a lot of time to kill - Despite flying on QR J, I was denied entry to MH Regional Lounge as the lounge agent mentioned that (i) Regional Lounge will be closed by midnight but QR departs at about 3am (ii) QR’s flight departs from Satellite terminal (iii) QR’s lounge is PP Lounge. When I told him that I’m flying a oneworld carrier, I have about 6 hours to kill, and I will head over to Satellite Lounge once Regional Lounge is about to close, he further mentioned that QR will not be very happy that MH double charge them (I think what he meant was my entry to MH Regional Lounge and MH Satellite Lounge will both be charged to QR). He strongly recommend me to go MH Satellite Lounge instead. - Reluctantly I headed over to Satellite terminal. Instead of heading straight to the MH Satellite lounge, I visited CX lounge just for the fun of it. CX lounge is still open to cater for JL flight. - Then I made my way to Satellite lounge to shower and have a bowl of laksa. Soon the cleaners are there to clean the lounge (about midnight) and I left. - Went over to QR transfer counter to get my QR J boarding pass printed, and also receive my PP lounge invitation - Spent the rest of my time in PP lounge Do note that these are my experience a year ago so YMMV. Enjoy QR - they’re amazing :) |
Originally Posted by brbear
(Post 29981780)
Thanks, I think this will be my strategy --- work for some hours in the MH lounge(s), before knocking off at midnight and switching to PP First (if possible) to relax a bit pre-flight.
(Heading into the city is also a nice idea, but as I'm anyway in KL most weekends, I'll be happy on this one occasion to stay airside and skip KLIA's "award winning" immigration service. :-) ) I did a similar itinerary as yours last Nov. - one Y to BOS (pre-QRPC GOLD) & one J to MUC. I remember the trf counter didn't open at the time it was supposed to (3-4 hrs before dep.) so I gave up checking & just waited in the PP 1st lounge until an hour before dep. to collect my BP (This was the trip to MUC when I flew in from SIN on MH 610 the night before). For the trip to BOS, I was in KL city for a few days & I wasn't Gold yet so I probably waited at the PP lounge before my flight. Both flights were amazing but do update in the QR forum if you have time, as there have been some grumblings about the poor choice (& quality) of food options in QR Y. |
Originally Posted by tingtongbells
(Post 29983338)
I flew similar route last April - JHB-KUL connecting to QR853 KUL-DOH-CAI on separate ticket. Both sectors in J and I’m OWS. Here’s my experience: - My luggage was checked all the way from JHB to final destination (CAI) despite QR sectors on separate ticket - I arrived in KUL at about 8+pm, but the QR transfer counter was not manned. It’ll only open 2-3 hours before QR’s departure. - Thankfully JHB was able to print my QR boarding passes (I’ll strongly advise you to try to ask SIN agent to try to print it for you too, if possible, as I’m not sure if MH or PP will allow entry to their lounge if there’s no boarding pass or lounge invite for PP) - Alternatively, I also had my QR mobile boarding pass ready - The initial plan is to lounge hop a bit since I have a lot of time to kill - Despite flying on QR J, I was denied entry to MH Regional Lounge as the lounge agent mentioned that (i) Regional Lounge will be closed by midnight but QR departs at about 3am (ii) QR’s flight departs from Satellite terminal (iii) QR’s lounge is PP Lounge. When I told him that I’m flying a oneworld carrier, I have about 6 hours to kill, and I will head over to Satellite Lounge once Regional Lounge is about to close, he further mentioned that QR will not be very happy that MH double charge them (I think what he meant was my entry to MH Regional Lounge and MH Satellite Lounge will both be charged to QR). He strongly recommend me to go MH Satellite Lounge instead. - Reluctantly I headed over to Satellite terminal. Instead of heading straight to the MH Satellite lounge, I visited CX lounge just for the fun of it. CX lounge is still open to cater for JL flight. - Then I made my way to Satellite lounge to shower and have a bowl of laksa. Soon the cleaners are there to clean the lounge (about midnight) and I left. - Went over to QR transfer counter to get my QR J boarding pass printed, and also receive my PP lounge invitation - Spent the rest of my time in PP lounge Do note that these are my experience a year ago so YMMV. Enjoy QR - they’re amazing :) Strange story about the regional lounge though, but in the end if you insisted, you'd most likely be allowed to enter. Not really a concern or a big deal to MH if QR was double charged, all the better for them, no? The only trf counter that is being manned all the time is MH's own .. @:-) |
Originally Posted by brbear
(Post 29964622)
I will possibly be connecting at KLIA from MH620 (SIN 16:35 --> KUL 17:45) to QR853 (KUL 02:50 --> DOH). Both fares are economy.
Will I be able to: (1) check baggage through all the way, despite the long layover in KUL? (2) access the MH lounge (as an MH Gold member) for all of the layover, or for only X hours prior to the QR flight? Thanks a lot! At SIN, there was of course no problem to check my bag all the way through. The agent didn't seem to think it was possible at first, but we got there in the end. At KUL, I initially went to the MH lounge and had no problem accessing it 8 or so hours before the flight (although they were also initially unsure about whether I could enter on a QR ticket). Three hours before the QR flight, I tried to switch to the PP lounge. Unfortunately, I *wasn't* allowed to access it because I have OW Sapphire status with MH. Both the lounge agents and the transfer desk said the same thing, and told me that I should use the MH lounge (again). If I understood them correctly, had my OW Sapphire status been from another programme than MH, I would have been able to enter the PP lounge. |
Originally Posted by brbear
(Post 29981780)
Thanks, I think this will be my strategy --- work for some hours in the MH lounge(s), before knocking off at midnight and switching to PP First (if possible) to relax a bit pre-flight.
(Heading into the city is also a nice idea, but as I'm anyway in KL most weekends, I'll be happy on this one occasion to stay airside and skip KLIA's "award winning" immigration service. :-) ) You didn't miss much at the PP First lounge, so no worries. According to their website, QRPC Silver members are eligible to use the PP First lounge regardless of your class of travel but I was turned away last Nov. when I tried. https://www.qatarairways.com/en/lounges/worldwide.html Kuala Lumpur International Airport Plaza Premium First Location : Satellite Terminal / Mezzanine Floor / After Security Open all day Lounge Access Eligibility Silver and Higher
Originally Posted by kt74
(Post 29980552)
Are you sure? Have you actually been to the lounges at 2am before the late QR flight? QR gives J pax access to the PP First lounge, which has a la carte dining and a full bar service. By 2am, the MH Plat lounge is long closed, and on the J side, the bar and showcase kitchens are closed, the food not refilled, staff are cleaning around pax, and the air-con is turned low/off. This is about the as bad as the main PP lounge (next to the SQ lounge) though at least it has a bar, but the PP FIRST lounge (next to the EK lounge/opposite CX) is superior to the MH offerings at this time of night, assuming you want to eat or drink anything, or sit in air-con without someone vacuuming around you. YMMV of course!
Anyway, for the OP, go crazy and try all the lounges before midnight (MH, MH Regional, CX) if you're not going into the city, and definitely try and get an invitation to the PP FIRST lounge if you intend to use the lounges after midnight. This post suggests that you might get access in Y on QR. |
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